"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Men, let's shift it in reverse...our $hit tests

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I'll start.

I like to open doors for the ladies. My favorite $hit test, is unlocking and opening my car door for them.

I walk around the back and check to see if they reach over and unlock the door for me. (learned this from the movie: "A Bronx Tale" and what Sonny says rings true)

A girl I dated who was very selfish, hardly ever unlocked my door for me....she only did it once in awhile after I told her about that movie's scene.

All of the great girls I've ever dated unlocked my door every time.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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I'm in the Mood

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Great idea OP!
 

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Lol classic scene in that movie!

The only problem with that nowadays is most modern cars don't have the kind of locks you can just reach over and unlock like the older cars and just have keyless entry, but the principle behind that test is solid.
 

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I define a $hit test as some disruptive, preselective statement or action that a person makes in order to determine the quality of another person.

As men, we normally do this through qualifications and compliance tests. My good friend and I had a conversation about this yesterday. During a cold approach, politely smile and ask the woman "why are you single?" If she's taken or isn't looking for company, she'll say so and you move on. If she's single or interested, she'll either ask how you knew that (cold read - DHV), qualify herself to you through her response or take the conversation elsewhere.

This is preselection at its finest.
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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To continue the qualification theme, chipped nail polish is a deal breaker. Feminine women should care enough about themselves to maintain good upkeep on their fingers and toes.

Same goes for her posture and gait. These are all good traits to screen for as it is possible to tell a lot about a woman by how she carries herself.
 

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Racecar said:
Same goes for her posture and gait. These are all good traits to screen for as it is possible to tell a lot about a woman by how she carries herself.

Very interesting. Can you expand on this? I'm actually very curious to hear your reasoning behind this.
 

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shizz702 said:
The only problem with that nowadays is most modern cars don't have the kind of locks you can just reach over and unlock like the older cars and just have keyless entry, but the principle behind that test is solid.
Good point. This really doesn't apply anymore. With keyless entry, you click once to unlock your door, and again to unlock the passenger side.

I do remember doing this when I was younger though, a lot of guys would say to test your girls like this. But like shizz says, it really doesn't apply anymore, unless you like vintage cars.

Even then, it may not occur to the girl because they aren't used to it. I think back in the day, girls knew that it was considered polite to reach over and unlock the door for you, they were raised that way. Now it probably never even comes up.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I personally like the idea of telling a girl "Okay, call me when you're done with that and we'll meet up".. I've done this before.

It shows that if she calls at the time you demanded, that you're important/interesting to her because she was thinking in her head "Ok, I have to call ___ at this time." It also asserts that you maintain the frame and dominance.

If she doesn't remember to call, obviously she had other priorities on her mind, therefore showing that she doesn't have enough interest or time for you. (Trust me, no matter how busy a girl is.. If she digs you, you'll be on her mind.)

This test can really only work after a few dates with the girl though.
This kind of stuff is really done naturally too.
 

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I still open the car door or any door for my wife, and I always hold the door open anytime a woman is behind me going into a building. just what I do.
 

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Fortunately for me, my car still has manual door locks.

Thats a good one Alex.

Keep 'em coming fellas.
 

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Alex DeLarge said:
I personally like the idea of telling a girl "Okay, call me when you're done with that and we'll meet up".. I've done this before.

It shows that if she calls at the time you demanded, that you're important/interesting to her because she was thinking in her head "Ok, I have to call ___ at this time." It also asserts that you maintain the frame and dominance.

If she doesn't remember to call, obviously she had other priorities on her mind, therefore showing that she doesn't have enough interest or time for you. (Trust me, no matter how busy a girl is.. If she digs you, you'll be on her mind.)

This test can really only work after a few dates with the girl though.
This kind of stuff is really done naturally too.

Good call. I do this as well, it is basically a way of telling her to do things that apply to you, and prove whether or not she truly has interest in you.

For instance, this chick I'm seeing right now, she called me this morning to talk about plans we have for tonight. Something came up at work and she had to go and said she would call me right back, but instead I told her nah, I am going to go to the gym so call me when you get off work.

By doing this not only does it show I have a life outside of her, and am not sitting around waiting for her calls, but it let's her do a bit of the leg work and initiate the next call, showing she really is interested.

Whenever possible I like to let/tell them to initiate things with me.

I will also add another test of mine.

We all know the classic "Judge a woman by her actions; Not her words."

So I always analyze if a woman follows through with her words. A sh1t test of mine is if she does what she tells me she's going to do. If she doesn't follow through with her word that just shows bad character in my opinion, and if it was something pertaining to you that shows low interest cause you are obviously easily forgettable to her.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Damn good thread.

I'm used to carrying conversations single-handed and setting the agenda and tone for dates. As any man could tell you, it comes with the territory. I strive to make authentic connections but my dates are usually so passive and bereft of charm that they just become an audience for my "performance" that night.

If you're on fire and she's eating up the schtick it's great for your ego naturally. But all the giggling and fawning usually masks a gaping personality deficit that only fully reveals itself after you've sunk the bone - who the hell is this vapid troll?!

So, I like to deliberately pull back from time to time, to see if she's capable of stepping up and contributing in a thoughtful or funny way. That lets me know if I'll be able to stand hanging out with her once we've fvcked.
 

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I hear that Wilko.

One of the worst dates I was on, the girl barely said anything. She seemed to enjoy the company, but had nothing to offer in terms of words. I couldn't wait to get out of that one.
 

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I'm shameless about it these days, this has served me well:

"I'm going to leave it there for the evening. I'll get the bill and then I'll be off."
 

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Good stuff Wilko.

Of course we as men should lead the conversation but nothing is worse then when there is no reciprocation.

I recall actually being on a date that felt so tense and awkward I was literally on the brink of cutting it off and saying this is going nowhere lol!

Oddly enough that chick kept texting me for about two weeks later still wanting to hang out!
 
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