"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Meeting a Girl Up For An Afternoon Date?

SoSuaveDude

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I'm in a climate where its still pretty cold, and im meeting up with a girl during the daytime. I'm under 21, and not sure where I can take her to provide a sustaining environment. She has school later that evening, so do you think a coffee date, or lunch get together would suffice? Have you brahs ever had success with daytime dating?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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SoSuaveDude said:
I'm in a climate where its still pretty cold, and im meeting up with a girl during the daytime. I'm under 21, and not sure where I can take her to provide a sustaining environment. She has school later that evening, so do you think a coffee date, or lunch get together would suffice? Have you brahs ever had success with daytime dating?

If you work out take her to the gym on a guest pass.

Take her clothes shopping with you to help you pick out new clothes.

Go out for Pizza. Google Zagat rated Pizza places for the best one you have or haven't tried. (Or a gourmet hot chocolate place. Chicks love chocolate. And hot chocolate is simple and different from just coffee and a little more fun.)

Specialty bakery like a place that makes only the best cupcakes or pies and have dessert and espresso etc. (Google them for your area.)

Take her to a batting cage/ indoor sports place.

Indoor Rock climbing.

Play pool.

Bowling

Wax museum

Google some interesting places to visit in your area.
 

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Afternoon dates in general are not as romantic as evening dates. For that reason, try to go to a place that wouldn't be any different at night, like a restaurant and sit at the bar.

One of the reasons you want to listen when a girl speaks, and to ask her questions and focus on her interests, is to arm yourself for situations like this. Having a copy of her favorite CD or her favorite DVD will go a long way when you surprise her with it and she doesn't remember telling you. In this case, knowing her favorite food or activity. But those are reserved for subsequent dates.

If this is the first date then keep it short, get a coffee (not Starbucks but something more unique) ending it after 45 minutes. Trust me, ending it first is a great technique.
 

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Great advice guys, I may do the shirt shopping mall idea. Where we each pick out a shirt for each other. Can that spark a decent flirtacious environment lol?
 

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What I would do in my area, I'd take her out with me, hit up a bookstore, take her down to a cafe, take her for a short walk and pop into the movie store and look at movies, gives a great point in for a second-date movie. If she doesn't like that at all, she's probably not my type of girl. Focus on making it fun and interesting, get a good vibe, and keep it flirty. Still go for a kiss.

But, I've got a nice street with all this along it, so it's easy.

Otherwise, all those NN suggested.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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SoSuaveDude said:
Great advice guys, I may do the shirt shopping mall idea. Where we each pick out a shirt for each other. Can that spark a decent flirtacious environment lol?

You bet your azz it can. After looking at/ buying/ trying on shirts make sure you're in a mall where you know (or google) there's a Victoria's Secret store inside. Make sure to "innocently" visit it with her or tell her let's go inside here too..Let her look around while you see what stuff she looks at and comment on how she'd look or what she may have. (Just don't make a beeline for Victoria's Secret or just go to the shirt places then there..look in different stores quick and then guide her "innocently" there without saying anything like you just happened to pass by VS and Oh let's go inside.") You can also go to one of those Pretzel Places. Don't directly go to VS or right there after or she might catch on.

You might even want to beforehand go buy and or look at UnderArmour or Calvin Klein boxer briefs quick just to hint and see if she comments on your choice of underwear style. Giving her a glimpse of what you like to wear and her possibly thinking how you look in them.

Don't overdo it though. Ride the breaks and see if she hints at sexual stuff. After you leave and are going home you might want to suggest going over or her coming over sometime to watch a movie and "cuddle".

Just don't overdo coming on too strong or eager in her coming over. Play it cool and confident like it's nothing to not come across as a thirsty horn dog. You may have her over that night or soon after..
 
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