"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Meet a new girl... she wants to pitch an MLM wtf?

shelbysbaker

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So I meet a new girl, and she says she wants to get together. However, in her email, it's clear she wants to push an MLM. It isn't Amway, but close.

Should I just forget about her and move on, or is there hope? We seem to have hit it off, but that could have been her "sales mode" to get me as a potential MLM prospect.

Ideas?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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pdx1138

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You know the answer.

This is not much different than the overly friendly bartender or stripper.
 

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Those MLMers, aka Pyramid Schemers, are so desperate for sales (and bringing you "on board") that they'll do anything to get you to listen to their sales pitch.

Jodie Arias was a shill for Prepaid Legal, another pyramid scheme. 'Nuff said.
 

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That's a cheap way to try and get you to do business with her. Then again the overwhelming majority of MLMers are pretty lame and cheesy as hell. I wouldn't go as far as to calling them a pyramid scheme because they are NOT. MLM is just another way of doing business and no I'm not involved in any. The business model doesn't work for about 90% of people but then again getting into any kind of business is always a risk.
 

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Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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The law defines pyramid scheme as one which does not have a legitimate product to sell. That's why the most popular MLMs deal with products where they can exaggerate the value, like vitamins and cosmetics.

It is worthy to mention in this disussion, and I've said this before, the "con" in con man is short for confidence. If you want to scam someone, the more you build their confidence, the easier they are to scam. A good scam will always make the victim feel like he is the one doing the scamming. For example, lying to a gold-digger about being rich makes her think she's about to scam the guy, but he is the one scamming his way into her pants.

I think it would be hilarious to listen to her spiel, sound excited, and tell her "you and I are going to build an empire together!" Then fvck her and never call again.
 

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While technically MLMs aren't pure pyramid schemes (thanks to the FTC's demand that they sell something), they're about as close to one as you can get without actually being illegal. The vast majority of MLM "business owners" lose money. Only the founders of an MLM really make any significant money from them.
 

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when i was single i met this chick i gamed her and got her number and she tired to push some of this herbal life **** on me and after like 2-3 dates she kept going at it and i was like okay babe i'm going to go ahead and buy some go ahead and sign me up and she was all happy and **** then after we ****ed i told her i was going to the ATM machine to get her money and just left and never came back rotfl. i was crying laughing when i did it. **** that broad.

the herbal life **** was actually prety good though i got a sample but she wanted 45 dollars for like a small ass bottle of it and the stuff wasn't even all that nutritious if i am spending 45 dollars on some protien that **** is going to work
 

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Zarky said:
While technically MLMs aren't pure pyramid schemes (thanks to the FTC's demand that they sell something), they're about as close to one as you can get without actually being illegal. The vast majority of MLM "business owners" lose money. Only the founders of an MLM really make any significant money from them.
That's only partially correct. If a pyramid scheme does sell any products there is no real market demand for them. Since these products won't sell then money made in pyramid schemes can only be made through "recruitment" of other people. This means that in a pyramid scheme the only ones to make any money are those who join early. In other words those who are closer to the top of the pyramid. The scheme will eventually collapse due to saturation because the potential to recruit new members eventually runs dry. What separates MLMs is that they choose to sell products (products that actually sell) through different marketing methods instead of spending huge sums of money on advertisements.

While it is true that the overwhelming majority of people make little to no money in MLM (I think that FTC statistics say over 90% :nervous: ) the same can also be said about most businesses outside of MLM. The overwhelming majority of start up businesses fail as well within several years.

Also if you analyze the payment structure to MLM businesses you can see that you can join the company years after someone who is making more money than yourself and actually surpass them.

What keeps me out of MLM is their manipulative, cheesy recruitment tactics and highly priced products. I actually like Amway products and IMHO they work better then their in-store counter parts but I'm not going to destroy my wallet for them. I also disagree with all the hype and cult-like mentality people in these types of businesses have.

If anything comes close to the definition of a pyramid scheme or maybe even a ponzi scheme just take a look at the world economy.
 

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see if she'll bang you so that you'll listen to her pitch

if not, you're not interested

if so, then atleast hear her out afterwards
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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