My ex girlfriend and my best friend have known each other since November and I've never really had any reason to suspect anything between them. They work together as I helped my friend obtain my position at my old job where my ex still works. In some ways I always felt like she treated him better because he is a stereotypical tall, handsome guy with a decent build, think the usual high school sports player, whereas I'm just an average height guy with an average build, not overweight just not the tall guy with good genetics. Too big of a nose, etc. But that's whatever.
She's told me before that she always consider him to be her "kentucky cousin" but one day she said something, while we were still together, that made me a little curious. I asked my friend if he had been flirting with her and said "yeah, but it was harmless. i'll stop though" basically. That caused a whole fiasco that I've posted about before but don't want to re-hash. I always felt like they were far too familiar with each other for him to just be a "kentucky cousin" and I've read stuff that supports my thought.
The other night I got home late, around 12:30 AM after moving a bunch of computer equipment, and she was gone(we live together until I move). What really sucked was the battery on the front door(Schlage keyless entry)had just died and I couldn't get in. She had just texted me not that long ago at 12:03 AM asking me where the mailbox key was. So, after I couldn't get in I tried to get a hold of her via text and phone. She didn't answer a single phone call and she finally responded via text at 1:20 AM with "What? Halfway to.. Not coming home anytime soon." I repeat the issue that the door was toast and she just replied saying "Chill then." Didn't hear anything back from any following texts and many ignored phone calls. I basically slept in my car until she got home, not even kidding. Since we're broken up whatever she does isn't really my business but I had a few good reasons to suspect she was with my friend til 5 AM.
At 1:11 AM I asked my friend if he could get a hold of her, he replied and said "I called no answer". I told him that I couldn't tell if she was coming or not and then followed up saying "wow it's been an hour and nothing". He read the texts but didn't respond.
So this is where I might get flamed but just try to refrain. I went through my girlfriend's phone after she got home and basically saw call logs from where they talked for 2 minutes at 11:57, 8 minutes at 12:35, 5 minutes at 12:46, and 3 minutes at 1 AM. My friend told me she didn't answer at 1:17 AM but she doesn't have any missed calls from between when I asked him if he could reach her and when he responded. It makes me question if he actually called her at my behest.
I also read their way-too-familiar texts from the same day, right before he and I hung out and moved all the computer stuff. He was talking about buying her a birthday present, which I think is supposed to be an expensive purse. Then she was sending him a picture of her closet as she was organizing...with a bra on the floor. Before this he asked if he should watch marco polo so he said "Aww yeah I think I would like all these things...the shows, def like the wine, the bra in that pic...lol...when's next wine night". Right around that same time he asked me when the next wine night was cause he came over and we all drank a bit and hung out. They also exchanged some other bs banter like how he wants to eat some sushi from japan(ex is half japanese), she replied and was like "Try some sushi in uhhh...<the city I live in>". He said "Lmao damn you...damn you...almost got me with that one" and finally she said "Ah c'mon... all u can eat buffet". Obvious innuendos for eating *****.
After that little exchange she was like "Then come over after". No response from him until 12:35 AM...which is around the time when she had left and this whole fiasco occurred. At that time he said "No wine night tonight. I shall go buy my own." to which she said "Where I will meet you"(wording seems to be misarranged on her part here). He replied with a "lol" and a picture of him in the parking lot. What really gets me is 12:35 AM coincides perfectly with the time when she called him and talked to him for nearly 9 minutes, shortly followed there after with the 5 minute conversation where HE called HER at 12:46 AM. It's like the exchange could've been "hey, I'm coming to drink some wine" and then he called to tell her how to get to his apartment and the gate code maybe. I'm not sure if it matters but he has 2 roommates but I doubt that she wouldn't have gone over there anyway.
Here's where my further suspicions arise. The lasts two texts I sent him via whatsapp were at around 1:40 AM...He didn't read them until 5:11 AM, yes that's right, around 11 minutes after she got home. Staying up until 5 AM is not out of character for me friend has he has really bad sleeping problems where he literally just stays up and cannot go to sleep and sometimes doesnt go to bed until like 4 or 5 AM and wake up at 2 PM the next day(on weekends). What better way to spend the evening than with the girl who wanted to drink some wine right?
Anyway, her phone and browser histories have absolutely ZERO other evidence of any other guy or person. No other phone calls to or from unrecognized numbers, so it's not like she randomly hung out with a past lover she wanted to reconnect with, she has absolutely no texts from anyone else that day except for a girl and the only other guy besides me she's texted is my friend and a coworker from literally weeks ago who she has absolutely zero interest in because he's married with a kid. There's absolutely zero hint of her going anywhere else, talking to anyone else, or meeting anyone else.
I seriously cannot think of anything she would have done from 12:30 AM to 5 AM except hang out with my friend. Bars here close at 2 AM. And she had a nearly empty wine glass on the table from right before she left. I almost feel like she basically left the house very shortly after my friend was on his way home/to Wal-Mart.
Anyway, I know there's a lot to criticize here especially my invasion of her personal stuff. But honestly, I feel betrayed by my best friend and almost like he's lying or covering it up. I asked him if they hung out and he said "no way" and some other things. I kind of want to believe him but the clues just don't point to anything besides those two chilling. The reason for my immense pursuance of this is because to be frank if they hung out or whatever I simply don't want to be friends with him anymore. I would rather have lost any girlfriend to another guy I didn't know but never to my best friend. I confronted my ex about it and tried to see if I could get her to admit to it, cause obviously she isn't telling me where she was, but she denied it and said "<my friend> has nothing to do with this". Yet I remain unconvinced. She is a very attractive and flirty girl who fully understands the male attention she gets yet she tries to cast smokescreens by saying things that would portray her as naive, innocent, and/or pure. I've known her actions to not really line up with her words.
Oh there's one other small nugget, my friend has a girlfriend, but their relationship is rocky because she is married and they don't get to hangout that often but on the weekends. She has totally checked out of the marriage but is waiting until she can buy her own house to divorce and move out. So regarding that, I think that my ex really doesn't "see" my friend as having a girlfriend, and has no problem messing with him.
She's told me before that she always consider him to be her "kentucky cousin" but one day she said something, while we were still together, that made me a little curious. I asked my friend if he had been flirting with her and said "yeah, but it was harmless. i'll stop though" basically. That caused a whole fiasco that I've posted about before but don't want to re-hash. I always felt like they were far too familiar with each other for him to just be a "kentucky cousin" and I've read stuff that supports my thought.
The other night I got home late, around 12:30 AM after moving a bunch of computer equipment, and she was gone(we live together until I move). What really sucked was the battery on the front door(Schlage keyless entry)had just died and I couldn't get in. She had just texted me not that long ago at 12:03 AM asking me where the mailbox key was. So, after I couldn't get in I tried to get a hold of her via text and phone. She didn't answer a single phone call and she finally responded via text at 1:20 AM with "What? Halfway to.. Not coming home anytime soon." I repeat the issue that the door was toast and she just replied saying "Chill then." Didn't hear anything back from any following texts and many ignored phone calls. I basically slept in my car until she got home, not even kidding. Since we're broken up whatever she does isn't really my business but I had a few good reasons to suspect she was with my friend til 5 AM.
At 1:11 AM I asked my friend if he could get a hold of her, he replied and said "I called no answer". I told him that I couldn't tell if she was coming or not and then followed up saying "wow it's been an hour and nothing". He read the texts but didn't respond.
So this is where I might get flamed but just try to refrain. I went through my girlfriend's phone after she got home and basically saw call logs from where they talked for 2 minutes at 11:57, 8 minutes at 12:35, 5 minutes at 12:46, and 3 minutes at 1 AM. My friend told me she didn't answer at 1:17 AM but she doesn't have any missed calls from between when I asked him if he could reach her and when he responded. It makes me question if he actually called her at my behest.
I also read their way-too-familiar texts from the same day, right before he and I hung out and moved all the computer stuff. He was talking about buying her a birthday present, which I think is supposed to be an expensive purse. Then she was sending him a picture of her closet as she was organizing...with a bra on the floor. Before this he asked if he should watch marco polo so he said "Aww yeah I think I would like all these things...the shows, def like the wine, the bra in that pic...lol...when's next wine night". Right around that same time he asked me when the next wine night was cause he came over and we all drank a bit and hung out. They also exchanged some other bs banter like how he wants to eat some sushi from japan(ex is half japanese), she replied and was like "Try some sushi in uhhh...<the city I live in>". He said "Lmao damn you...damn you...almost got me with that one" and finally she said "Ah c'mon... all u can eat buffet". Obvious innuendos for eating *****.
After that little exchange she was like "Then come over after". No response from him until 12:35 AM...which is around the time when she had left and this whole fiasco occurred. At that time he said "No wine night tonight. I shall go buy my own." to which she said "Where I will meet you"(wording seems to be misarranged on her part here). He replied with a "lol" and a picture of him in the parking lot. What really gets me is 12:35 AM coincides perfectly with the time when she called him and talked to him for nearly 9 minutes, shortly followed there after with the 5 minute conversation where HE called HER at 12:46 AM. It's like the exchange could've been "hey, I'm coming to drink some wine" and then he called to tell her how to get to his apartment and the gate code maybe. I'm not sure if it matters but he has 2 roommates but I doubt that she wouldn't have gone over there anyway.
Here's where my further suspicions arise. The lasts two texts I sent him via whatsapp were at around 1:40 AM...He didn't read them until 5:11 AM, yes that's right, around 11 minutes after she got home. Staying up until 5 AM is not out of character for me friend has he has really bad sleeping problems where he literally just stays up and cannot go to sleep and sometimes doesnt go to bed until like 4 or 5 AM and wake up at 2 PM the next day(on weekends). What better way to spend the evening than with the girl who wanted to drink some wine right?
Anyway, her phone and browser histories have absolutely ZERO other evidence of any other guy or person. No other phone calls to or from unrecognized numbers, so it's not like she randomly hung out with a past lover she wanted to reconnect with, she has absolutely no texts from anyone else that day except for a girl and the only other guy besides me she's texted is my friend and a coworker from literally weeks ago who she has absolutely zero interest in because he's married with a kid. There's absolutely zero hint of her going anywhere else, talking to anyone else, or meeting anyone else.
I seriously cannot think of anything she would have done from 12:30 AM to 5 AM except hang out with my friend. Bars here close at 2 AM. And she had a nearly empty wine glass on the table from right before she left. I almost feel like she basically left the house very shortly after my friend was on his way home/to Wal-Mart.
Anyway, I know there's a lot to criticize here especially my invasion of her personal stuff. But honestly, I feel betrayed by my best friend and almost like he's lying or covering it up. I asked him if they hung out and he said "no way" and some other things. I kind of want to believe him but the clues just don't point to anything besides those two chilling. The reason for my immense pursuance of this is because to be frank if they hung out or whatever I simply don't want to be friends with him anymore. I would rather have lost any girlfriend to another guy I didn't know but never to my best friend. I confronted my ex about it and tried to see if I could get her to admit to it, cause obviously she isn't telling me where she was, but she denied it and said "<my friend> has nothing to do with this". Yet I remain unconvinced. She is a very attractive and flirty girl who fully understands the male attention she gets yet she tries to cast smokescreens by saying things that would portray her as naive, innocent, and/or pure. I've known her actions to not really line up with her words.
Oh there's one other small nugget, my friend has a girlfriend, but their relationship is rocky because she is married and they don't get to hangout that often but on the weekends. She has totally checked out of the marriage but is waiting until she can buy her own house to divorce and move out. So regarding that, I think that my ex really doesn't "see" my friend as having a girlfriend, and has no problem messing with him.
