"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Maybe height is even more important than we think

speakeasy

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I'm 5'8" or so, could probably pass for 5'10" with thick shoes on. I'd say my height is "low average". I don't feel "short" by any means, but I know I am not tall either. I was just thinking back on women who have been attracted to me in the last 10 years. Almost all of them have been substantially shorter than me. The last girl I dated was about 5' tall. There is a girl who is into me right now who is even shorter than that. Now as I think about it, I've had very little success with women who were of equal height to me or even slightly shorter, and I've never had a girl who is taller than me. I'm wondering if this is by coincidence or evolutionary biology at work.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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No girl has ever been attracted to someone shorter than them. True story.
 

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Well I think women prefer a man to be taller or at least equal to them in height. Men also prefer women to be shorter than them. Women would date men shorter than them if they had to but they don't ahve to. I have seen girl around 5'5-5'7 date guys even shorter than them. The thing is if your a man and over 5'7 then most women will be shorter than you. Being taller is a small advantage but it's just one aspect and won't make up for everything. I've seen plenty of guys around 5'7 attract more women than other men that were taller. Height isn't the advantage that a good looking face, or wealth or status is.
 

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speakeasy said:
I'm 5'8" or so, could probably pass for 5'10" with thick shoes on. I'd say my height is "low average". I don't feel "short" by any means, but I know I am not tall either. I was just thinking back on women who have been attracted to me in the last 10 years. Almost all of them have been substantially shorter than me. The last girl I dated was about 5' tall. There is a girl who is into me right now who is even shorter than that. Now as I think about it, I've had very little success with women who were of equal height to me or even slightly shorter, and I've never had a girl who is taller than me. I'm wondering if this is by coincidence or evolutionary biology at work.

Hey 5'8'' aint bad at all man. I'm 5'6'' and that's not even as bas as I used to think. It does eliminate a whole lot of women that are just gonna write me off without a shot. Im sure theres also plenty of 5'7'' - 5'9'' women who would give someone shorter a shot, but who the hell wants to date someone taller. I've been told im good looking and have nice eyes alot in my life and i have a good job, so i don't think its a big deal for me. The problem i've had more with shortness is the lack of respect in jobs and amongst other men in general. Theres been articles and news stories on tv about height and i always here how CEO's of companies average 6'2'' and the rest of the population of men averages 5'9''. Food for thought.
 

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I'm 5' 8", though I might be pushing 5' 9" since I've started to workout and improve my posture. I'm really attracted to tall women, and high heels, but I could never imagine dating or approaching a women that has more than has an inch or two on me, especially if she's not in heels. I guess once I start sarging properly, I've packed more muscle and have some cash behind me then I won't have any qualms, but for now I'm looking for a easy time, and why make it harder by going for a woman that you are not confident around and may appear less attractive to.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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According to the National Center for Health Statistics, the average height for an adult male in the United States is:

69.2 inches, or
5 feet 9.2 inches

So you're alright. I'm 6'0'' and I feel slightly taller than everage.

But you are correct: women will always like taller men, and men will always like shorter women.
 

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speakeasy said:
I'm 5'8" or so, could probably pass for 5'10" with thick shoes on. I'd say my height is "low average". I don't feel "short" by any means, but I know I am not tall either. I was just thinking back on women who have been attracted to me in the last 10 years. Almost all of them have been substantially shorter than me. The last girl I dated was about 5' tall. There is a girl who is into me right now who is even shorter than that. Now as I think about it, I've had very little success with women who were of equal height to me or even slightly shorter, and I've never had a girl who is taller than me. I'm wondering if this is by coincidence or evolutionary biology at work.
We're actually the same height but most of the girls I've dated in the past have been my height or slightly taller. Trust me height does matter to some women and those who are extremely superficial may write you off for it. But then again those that would consider something trivial like that aren't worth your time anyway.

But a common answer I've heard from women in what they attracted to physically is tall, nice eyes, nice smile

For me 2 out of 3 aint bad :)
 
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