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Match.com - Desired Salary Range

pdx1138

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Gentlemen,

do you find it trashy/gold digger ish when women fill in the area for their "match" with the salary info?

I'll start off by saying I find it an immediate turn off, but variably.

if they just show the minimum $ 50k-$75k I'm not that offended.

When I see the maximum $150k-$300k filled in I leave the profile immediately.

I realize women need men to know they can take care of offspring, but there's something about it that rubs me (the entitlement thing) the wrong way.

What's the consensus among you?
 

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Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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I think most women looking for a long term partner or husband have an agenda way beyond just wanting to find someone that they like spending time with. The majority will have low paying jobs that won't afford them the lifestyle they want, so they're looking for a guy to subsidise their lives, pay for their kids, etc. Probably they're already thinking ahead to the time when they can jack in those jobs and kick back at home.

It seems to be the way of the world (at least in the West). But I really don't want to make my life about slogging my guts out at work every day so I can support another human being. Hence I don't want to get married.

To answer your question, I feel the same as you do. When I see that income section filled in it just sets off a chain of thought along the lines of the above and I feel a bit disgusted by it.
 

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Espi said:
only the women who list that they want a man who earns at least 100,000K and above. I run these searches because I find these women usually to be the most physically attractive. A fattie or a UG probably can't be THAT picky and expect to land a guy with a six-figure income.
I've seen quite a few 5-6s listing the maximum....(my ex is one of them) it makes me laugh.
 

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My favorite was the chick that wrote "don't show me your car, show me your jet".

Bet she's still awaiting a date.

Who cares anyway? Women (much less men) know what they're looking for in their opposite. Its ultimately a numbers game. And Match can help with that.

I'm not into 'big' first dates no matter here I come across an interesting woman. And I've been all over the place with Match dates - from wild sex four hours in to a nice conversation and that's it.

Play the game.
 

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Espi said:
I find it distasteful that the vast majority of the women on match.com leave their own income answer blank but list how much they expect the man to make. They're not interested in disclosing their own salary range, but of course most of the female profiles I see disclose the minimum salary preference they expect from men. Despite living in an "equal society," women still seem to be OK with expecting the man to make the money.

Women who want the top earning men are the ones who are used to being treated to a nice dinner on the first date, even though they've done nothing but accept a date from a man.

I personally don't list my income on match.com. It's nobody's business. And I don't ask about her income, either.

Actually, though, on match.com, there are very few women that list the top salary range (150,000 +) as their desired income. I know this because I have run searches on match.com for YEARS specifying only the women who list that they want a man who earns at least 100,000K and above. I run these searches because I find these women usually to be the most physically attractive. A fattie or a UG probably can't be THAT picky and expect to land a guy with a six-figure income.

I also run searches on match.com for the women who profess to earning six-figures. They are far and few in between, but to me it's a worth a shot. There are a lot of desparate middle-aged wealthy women out there!
when you search for the women who look for the maximum salary and as you say physically attractive, have you managed to succeed with any of them?

or did they expect you to pamper and spoil them?
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Espi said:
^^^^I have succeeded with very few of them to my liking. I been using match on and off since 2001...took me an EMBARASSINGLY long time in AFCville before I realized that I was being used for dinner and accompanyment. I spent too much of my time and money acting like I was Mr. Big Bucks Playa. I coulda probably been more successful if I wasn't so bent on fvucking them on the first date, but I won't treat these women to more than one nice dinner.

I succeeded recently with a woman whom I randomly emailed (I liked her photos). 48-year-old long blonde haired 7.5 (on a good day) business owner who lost her husband last year to lung cancer. Nice girl. She listed 150K plus as her income level. Met for a few drinks at Chart House--a nice restaurant--and then fvucked her in the backseat of her BMW 5 series in the parking lot of the nearby Holiday inn Express.

Then two weeks later she invited me to her house in Westchase (not a mansion but nice)...she ordered me a pizza and bought me a 6 pack of Sam Adams. I sat there acting like I wasn't bored, drinking beers and begrudingly watching Jersey Shore. Fvucked her again but it wasn't that great. Haven't seen her since. Still not sure if it was worth it.
I meant the 1s looking for the 150k+ guys.. cos i agree with you, usually the 1s looking for the max income are the hottest 1s. so no success with them?

tbh, another constraint is if you put it a zip code in a rich area say 90210 and 0 miles from that. that ususally brings up lots of hot women as generally speaking, hot women also live in rich areas.
 

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I don't know anything about Match.com, but why is the minimum desired salary range $50k-75k, when the average US household income is $49,445? Mind you, that's household income, not individual income.

I guess no one aspires to be average though.
 

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Espi said:
The minimum salary range that you can list on match.com is "Less than $25,000." Then there's $25 to $35K and so on. Max is $150,000 plus.
Okay, thanks for explaining that. Apparently I misunderstood what the OP was saying.

Espi said:
It seems like 9 out of 10 women on match.com don't list their income at all. They leave it blank.
Well, the guys here have said over and over that they don't care about a woman's career or income. So maybe the women realize it's irrelevant too.
 

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it's funny on sites like those that most women will go straight to the salary listing to see what the guy makes. me? i go straight to finding out how many b@stard chillens the b!tch has.lol
 

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If you want to find a -wife-, then you lie and put in the lowest or second lowest salary range. When you go on a date, get a cheap looking car. Hide your money from her.

If she still falls in love with you and doesn't care, there you go.

I -ALWAYS- recommend a pre-nup though. Don't debate. Just sign a pre-nup to protect your money. Even if you are broke now, you might be rich in 20 years. Sign a pre-nup.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Robert28 said:
i go straight to finding out how many b@stard chillens the b!tch has.lol

agreed!

first I check the pic's, then if she has little monsters to tend to...
 
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