"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Marking territory

Thomas94305

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I'm in the early stages of a relationship. This woman has a habit of leaving personal things at my house -- sunglasses, clothing, etc. Not things that she would actually need if she were to spend the night, but more like she is keeping something of hers around all the time.

Then, after 3 weeks of dating, she gives me a framed photo of herself as a Xmas present.

My questions:

1) What do you think of this behaviour, how it bodes for the future?
2) What should I do? Should I put the photo up, or hide it in a drawer, or other?
3) What do I do if she keeps leaving things in the future? I have busted on her about how she is "marking her territory", and give her items back to her. If this persists, then what?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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penkitten

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well thomas , lets start with what you want.
you are in the beginning of a relationship, do you want this to be long term?
do you want it to move fast?
what is it you are looking for?

if you are not looking for it to move fast, ask her to slow down a little or before you know it her entire wardrobe will be in your place and she will say im gonna stop paying the rent at my place since im always here.

however on the other hand, it is clever to leave something small behind for a future visit.
 

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Politely remind her that she forgot whatever it is she "left behind (accidentaly on purpose)."

Remember the episode of Seinfeld where George did a leave behind?

Nip it in the bud quick or you'll find tampons in your cabinet and an extra toothbrush on your sink . . .


"Cooo- Stanza!"
 

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Originally posted by KarmaSutra
Politely remind her that she forgot whatever it is she "left behind (accidentaly on purpose)."
 

Rollo Tomassi

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Originally posted by KarmaSutra
Nip it in the bud quick or you'll find tampons in your cabinet and an extra toothbrush on your sink . . .
Lets not forget pantyhose hanging in your shower.

Women mark territory in a variety of ways, a picture is one of many, but it's also a very difficult one to refuse. Nothing marks territory better than a picture hanging up of her and you as a sign of ownership. Guys do this too of course - at least posessive AFCs do - but it often has the opposite effect as far as genuine desire is concerned. When guys mark territory it comes of as clingy or desperate more often than it does "sweet and sincire." I can't tell you how many times I've seen a dozen roses on a woman's desk from a new boyfriend after he'd visit my agency or the ad dept. of a casino I worked at once she'd introduce him to us all.

KARMA: Been trying to PM you lately, but your inbox is full. Wanted to see if you wanted meet up in O town sometime?
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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speedo_meme

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haha my gf did the same thing......she's getting way ahead of herself, I had to set the precedent again last night. She's been coming "home" to my house every afternoon and taking showers there and all that. So I just didn't come home until 10 or so after watching that Michigan/Nebraska game and her ass was locked out! Just a little prank to regain a little hand...
 

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Good move speedo, if you do not put a stop to it she will move in before you know it...

I have lived with women but would never ever do it again.

You lose your freedom to maneuver.. now why would a man want to lose that, unless he is an AFC?

Dietzcoi
 

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Originally posted by Rollo Tomassi
KARMA: Been trying to PM you lately, but your inbox is full. Wanted to see if you wanted meet up in O town sometime?


Cleaned out my box and sent you a message. It would be quite something to pick your brain over sushi and sake . . . Afterwards a wonderful La Gloria cubana?

I'll be waiting for your response Brother.
 
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