Marco Rubio is probably your next president....

[Sprayarc]

Trump will be our great leader.

 

[LiveFreeX]

Trump IS our leader and I'm a Canadian. If Trump wins, I'll finally be able to come out as a Trans-American.

 

[Sprayarc]

Trump IS our leader and I'm a Canadian. If Trump wins, I'll finally be able to come out as a Trans-American.

But seriously. Have you seen his tax plan? Only 4-brackets. Removing income tax for 50% of the population. 10% flat tax for all businesses. Not taxing income made overseas which Will encourage people to reinvest in the US. Lowering corporate tax while removing loop holes.

I'm not an expert but I think a simpler tax system would be a good thing. The top tax bracket is 25%.

 

[LiveFreeX]

I'd be interested in investing in Detroit if he becomes president. I'm very optimistic about his run.

 

[Sprayarc]

I'd be interested in investing in Detroit if he becomes president. I'm very optimistic about his run.

Lol. Can't stump the trump.

 

[yuppee]

Well, it's 2016 and Trump is set to blow away the rest on Super Tuesday. So much for Rubio and the other bought and paid for clown. Nobody else is laying out any specifics, because they can't do so. They are bought and paid for and will change exactly nothing. Trump knows better than to reveal his hand too soon.

 

[Jaylan]

Lolol yeah the guy with the highest unfavorable ratings ever recorded is going to win the general election.

Winning a primary with an average 1/3 of the GOP vote is much different than a national election cycle where Trump needs the support of many demographics he's already alienated.

Good luck in the fall.

 

[Asmodeus]

I hate politics. Both sides are messed up. They have divided America to the point where everyone is at each others throats about any minor political issue.
And this is how America falls...
United we stand, divided we fall.
And both parties are dividing us just so that they can feed off of that division. However, it makes America weaker.

 

[Bible_Belt]

The GOP establishment is currently pondering the nuclear option, where they run a conservative as an independent against Trump. They know that will guarantee Hillary wins, but the GOP seems to want her to win more than Trump. They think it will be the end of their party if a pro-choice candidate without ties to the church gets the nomination.

The GOP's conservative base is shrinking. We are at the point where those values are a minority opinion. That's why Trump is winning. The GOP is going to either have to accept changing social values, or split off into a new Conservative Party.

 

[speed dawg]

The GOP's conservative base is shrinking. We are at the point where those values are a minority opinion. That's why Trump is winning. The GOP is going to either have to accept changing social values, or split off into a new Conservative Party.

It seems to me that Trump is winning with the hardcore conservatives. It's the moderates....the ones who get offended easily about muslims and mysogyny and such, that seem to not want Trump. However, I see others that say that Trump is going to clean up the moderate vote, with Republicans and Democrats, and that's the reason he will win the general election.

I don't really know. I do agree that old school conservatism is shrinking. But Trump is so popular, IMO, because people are tired of sitting back and taking liberal sh*t - and those people are mainly conservative. It's a weird situation.

I'm sort of with Gaylan in the fact that traditional logic says there is no way Trump wins, because certain demographics will go Democrat no matter what. But it's that middle ground of white America.....where things can change. Those are the people who elected Obama. Plus, Trump has a lot of support in NY and FL.

 

[Tamura]

Parallels to the Weimar Republic evident. I should invest in armaments industries now.

 

[Bible_Belt]

It seems to me that Trump is winning with the hardcore conservatives.

Hardcore conservatives are anti-abortion. They want Planned Parenthood de-funded. They also want a candidate who identifies closely with the church. Trump is pro-choice, supports Planned Parenthood, and he makes Hillary look churchy by comparison. The Pope actually singled out Trump and accused him of not being a Christian.

Republican conservatives have always felt like their candidate was God's choice. As absurd as it is to think of Dubya as an angel and Al Gore as a devil, they really do think that way. But this time, no one can see Trump as an angel.

Presidencies are like long, bad relationships that America has with one man. When it's over, we typically choose the most opposite new candidate from the last sitting president. Dubya set up Obama. And now it looks like Obama is setting up Trump.

 

[Sprayarc]

Parallels to the Weimar Republic evident. I should invest in armaments industries now.

People who compare trump to Hitler are ridiculous. Hitler was a socialist. Very anti capitalism. Also Hitler was a failure most of his life. Trump is a successful business man.

He's not even racist. It's not racist to want to secure our borders. It's not racist to not allow Muslims in to our country until we have a method to properly vet Muslim immigrants.

I guarantee you have zero evidence that he is a racist.

 

[Sprayarc]

Hardcore conservatives are anti-abortion. They want Planned Parenthood de-funded. They also want a candidate who identifies closely with the church. Trump is pro-choice, supports Planned Parenthood, and he makes Hillary look churchy by comparison. The Pope actually singled out Trump and accused him of not being a Christian.

Republican conservatives have always felt like their candidate was God's choice. As absurd as it is to think of Dubya as an angel and Al Gore as a devil, they really do think that way. But this time, no one can see Trump as an angel.

Presidencies are like long, bad relationships that America has with one man. When it's over, we typically choose the most opposite new candidate from the last sitting president. Dubya set up Obama. And now it looks like Obama is setting up Trump.

Yup. I wish the conservatives didn't base their choice on whether the candidate claims he's a Christian or not. Any politician can claim they're one but that's just to get votes.

Bush 2 was a rhino who got us into expensive wars that we didn't need to be in.

He wasted money. The patriot act. Clinton may have passed legislation forcing banks issue mortgage loans to people who can't afford them, but Bush deregulated derivatives and that led to the financial crisis.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Trump is winning because he's basically saying "government sucks" which pretty much everybody agrees with. The problem with his slogan "Make america great again" is he has no idea how to do that, because he doesn't really understand the depth of the problems. He himself is not really a "businessman" as his fortunes have largely been made due to his government connections.

He's just like any other power hungry politician who says whatever people want to hear. He's just a lot better at it, AND he can get away with saying pretty much anything since he's using his won money.

The reason the GOP hates him so much has zero to do with his issues but moreso than he's not an "insider" (bought and paid for). Issues mean nothing to these idiots because they flip flop all the time. Trump is somebody that they (the GOP or more specifically their corporate string pullers) have NO control over.

A Trump presidency will be a disaster. A clinton presidency will be a disaster.

Just like everybody was so EXCITED when Obama won, thinking everything would magically change, but just got worse.

Same will happen when Trump is elected (or hillary).

We are so fvcked either way. Expecting "change" with Hillary or Trump is like thinking that changing doctors is going to make a difference when you've got two weeks to live.

 

[Sprayarc]

Trump is winning because he's basically saying "government sucks" which pretty much everybody agrees with. The problem with his slogan "Make america great again" is he has no idea how to do that, because he doesn't really understand the depth of the problems. He himself is not really a "businessman" as his fortunes have largely been made due to his government connections.

He's just like any other power hungry politician who says whatever people want to hear. He's just a lot better at it, AND he can get away with saying pretty much anything since he's using his won money.

The reason the GOP hates him so much has zero to do with his issues but moreso than he's not an "insider" (bought and paid for). Issues mean nothing to these idiots because they flip flop all the time. Trump is somebody that they (the GOP or more specifically their corporate string pullers) have NO control over.

A Trump presidency will be a disaster. A clinton presidency will be a disaster.

Just like everybody was so EXCITED when Obama won, thinking everything would magically change, but just got worse.

Same will happen when Trump is elected (or hillary).

We are so fvcked either way. Expecting "change" with Hillary or Trump is like thinking that changing doctors is going to make a difference when you've got two weeks to live.

This is just your personal opinion. Maybe your right and maybe not.

I'd think he's economically literate. If his actions in office result in our economy flourishing than that's what we need.

What do you know? I mean you don't know what he really knows or what his plans are.

I think the United States is to easy on other countries economically. One example is China. If we start slapping tariffs on Chinese imports it will raise the price of Chinese goods making it easier for American companies to compete. Keeping more money in the country.

If he manages to get rid of nafta, or change it enough so it doesn't suck as much money out of the country.

Who would you suggest the best candidate would be?

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

All laws are made and passed by congress. The president can only sign them or veto them.

Nafta, tarrifs, and everything else require congressional approval. congress is bought and paid for by CEO's. So they create laws and pass them that CEO's want them to pass.

The only thing Trump could possibly do would be to do what you suggested by executive order. But even that would be disastrous, economically. If he passed Tarrifs on China, for example, all that would do would make Chinese imports more expensive. Sure, american products would be "competive" by comparison, but that would require products to be MORE EXPENSIVE. That will hurt the economy, not help it.

And that would further kill the Chinese economy, which is going to drag everything down with it any way.

Increasing tarrifs during the depression (something that 3000 economists BEGGED FDR NOT to do) is what led to trade wars, and nationalism.

Get rid of NAFTA?

That would FORCE companies to bring labor back to the united states, which would significantly increase their labor costs, which would either make their products WAY more expensive, or simply put them out of business. Or force them to lay off massive people.

The globalization (cheap labor) over the past couple decades is one reason we haven't had hyperinflation. You start increasing american labor, and you get hyperinflation with all the frikking money that's swirling around in the system.

Even the PERFECT CANDIDATE (which doesn't really exist) wouldn't be able to do much, because the economic problems are STRUCTURAL, not because of wrong policy.

No policy will "fix things" without really causing more harm than good.

Don't get me wrong, I think Trump is better than hillary. But I honestly don't think he has ANY IDEA policy wise what to do, because he's main thrust is just to change the status quo.

If I'm wrong, PLEASE list any SPECIFIC plans he has (other than what you've mentioned) and I'll tell you why it WON'T work.

 

[Sprayarc]

All laws are made and passed by congress. The president can only sign them or veto them.

Nafta, tarrifs, and everything else require congressional approval. congress is bought and paid for by CEO's. So they create laws and pass them that CEO's want them to pass.

The only thing Trump could possibly do would be to do what you suggested by executive order. But even that would be disastrous, economically. If he passed Tarrifs on China, for example, all that would do would make Chinese imports more expensive. Sure, american products would be "competive" by comparison, but that would require products to be MORE EXPENSIVE. That will hurt the economy, not help it.

And that would further kill the Chinese economy, which is going to drag everything down with it any way.

Increasing tarrifs during the depression (something that 3000 economists BEGGED FDR NOT to do) is what led to trade wars, and nationalism.

Get rid of NAFTA?

That would FORCE companies to bring labor back to the united states, which would significantly increase their labor costs, which would either make their products WAY more expensive, or simply put them out of business. Or force them to lay off massive people.

The globalization (cheap labor) over the past couple decades is one reason we haven't had hyperinflation. You start increasing american labor, and you get hyperinflation with all the frikking money that's swirling around in the system.

Even the PERFECT CANDIDATE (which doesn't really exist) wouldn't be able to do much, because the economic problems are STRUCTURAL, not because of wrong policy.

No policy will "fix things" without really causing more harm than good.

Don't get me wrong, I think Trump is better than hillary. But I honestly don't think he has ANY IDEA policy wise what to do, because he's main thrust is just to change the status quo.

If I'm wrong, PLEASE list any SPECIFIC plans he has (other than what you've mentioned) and I'll tell you why it WON'T work.

Fair enough. You've made some good points. Especially about congress.

So what would your solution be to fix the economy? I mean you seem to be economically literate.

Oh and it seems to me that nafta was a bad idea from the start but it's to late to go back on it now, like you said.

 

[Sprayarc]

All laws are made and passed by congress. The president can only sign them or veto them.

Nafta, tarrifs, and everything else require congressional approval. congress is bought and paid for by CEO's. So they create laws and pass them that CEO's want them to pass.

The only thing Trump could possibly do would be to do what you suggested by executive order. But even that would be disastrous, economically. If he passed Tarrifs on China, for example, all that would do would make Chinese imports more expensive. Sure, american products would be "competive" by comparison, but that would require products to be MORE EXPENSIVE. That will hurt the economy, not help it.

And that would further kill the Chinese economy, which is going to drag everything down with it any way.

Increasing tarrifs during the depression (something that 3000 economists BEGGED FDR NOT to do) is what led to trade wars, and nationalism.

Get rid of NAFTA?

That would FORCE companies to bring labor back to the united states, which would significantly increase their labor costs, which would either make their products WAY more expensive, or simply put them out of business. Or force them to lay off massive people.

The globalization (cheap labor) over the past couple decades is one reason we haven't had hyperinflation. You start increasing american labor, and you get hyperinflation with all the frikking money that's swirling around in the system.

Even the PERFECT CANDIDATE (which doesn't really exist) wouldn't be able to do much, because the economic problems are STRUCTURAL, not because of wrong policy.

No policy will "fix things" without really causing more harm than good.

Don't get me wrong, I think Trump is better than hillary. But I honestly don't think he has ANY IDEA policy wise what to do, because he's main thrust is just to change the status quo.

If I'm wrong, PLEASE list any SPECIFIC plans he has (other than what you've mentioned) and I'll tell you why it WON'T work.

1. Tax relief for middle class Americans: In order to achieve the American dream, let people keep more money in their pockets and increase after-tax wages.
2. Simplify the tax code to reduce the headaches Americans face in preparing their taxes and let everyone keep more of their money.
3. Grow the American economy by discouraging corporate inversions, adding a huge number of new jobs, and making America globally competitive again.
4. Doesn’t add to our debt and deficit, which are already too large.

The Trump Tax Plan Achieves These Goals

1. If you are single and earn less than $25,000, or married and jointly earn less than $50,000, you will not owe any income tax. That removes nearly 75 million households – over 50% – from the income tax rolls. They get a new one page form to send the IRS saying, “I win,” those who would otherwise owe income taxes will save an average of nearly $1,000 each.
2. All other Americans will get a simpler tax code with four brackets – 0%, 10%, 20% and 25% – instead of the current seven. This new tax code eliminates the marriage penalty and the Alternative Minimum Tax (AMT) while providing the lowest tax rate since before World War II.
3. No business of any size, from a Fortune 500 to a mom and pop shop to a freelancer living job to job, will pay more than 15% of their business income in taxes. This lower rate makes corporate inversions unnecessary by making America’s tax rate one of the best in the world.
4. No family will have to pay the death tax. You earned and saved that money for your family, not the government. You paid taxes on it when you earned it.

The Trump Tax Plan Is Revenue Neutral



The Trump tax cuts are fully paid for by:

1. Reducing or eliminating most deductions and loopholes available to the very rich.
2. A one-time deemed repatriation of corporate cash held overseas at a significantly discounted 10% tax rate, followed by an end to the deferral of taxes on corporate income earned abroad.
3. Reducing or eliminating corporate loopholes that cater to special interests, as well as deductions made unnecessary or redundant by the new lower tax rate on corporations and business income. We will also phase in a reasonable cap on the deductibility of business interest expenses.

 

[Sprayarc]

I hate politics. Both sides are messed up. They have divided America to the point where everyone is at each others throats about any minor political issue.
And this is how America falls...
United we stand, divided we fall.
And both parties are dividing us just so that they can feed off of that division. However, it makes America weaker.

Lesser if two evils. Which is least worst.