You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?
Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.
One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.
Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
Pretend to be on the phone? Pretend to be out shopping? Pretend to need a gift? Pretend to want advice? Ugghhh. Doesn't lying to people so much make you sick to your stomach?!Espi said:1. Bring your cellphone...
2. Carrry a shopping bag.
3. Sarge Hired Guns...I usually explain I'm looking for men's watch
4. Ask for advice .
couldn't agree more!!Krassus said:Pretend to be on the phone? Pretend to be out shopping? Pretend to need a gift? Pretend to want advice? Ugghhh. Doesn't lying to people so much make you sick to your stomach?!
You want a good opener? Try "Hey!" and a smile! Want something more elaborate? Try telling the TRUTH! "Hey, i just HONESTLY have to tell you something... i was walking back there and you REALLY caught my eye. I have NO idea what i'm supposed to say right now, but i just knew that if i didn't come up to you and say SOMETHING, i'd really regret it. So yea, hi!My name's Mike." Proceed to build rapport (ask what she's up to, get to know the "basics" etc), intermixed with attraciton (throw in some humor and C&F here and there, playful neghits, etc), then close. Boom.
i couldnt imagine this would work..a HB would just think "yeah and your another loser"Krassus said:"Hey, i just HONESTLY have to tell you something... i was walking back there and you REALLY caught my eye. I have NO idea what i'm supposed to say right now, but i just knew that if i didn't come up to you and say SOMETHING, i'd really regret it. So yea, hi!My name's Mike"
field report it insted of f*cking guessing.d2j said:i couldnt imagine this would work..a HB would just think "yeah and your another loser"
Better than nothing though
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Answers in boldEspi said:It's not lieing; it's flirting.
One HUNDRED percent LYING. You can't argue this. Dude, if i had to walk around with a fake shopping bag and pretend to be talking on the phone to get laid, i'd rather get a hooker, cuz that's just humiliating.
I refuse to wield power to the target
You already have by walking around with a fake shopping bag
Back to the mall: Women will suspect a man
When a lion is hungry, he eats...
Compliment-opening a HB does not demonstrate higher value...it demonstrates neediness and desperation.
Only when coming from a low-value guy. To illustrate, imagine if Brad Pitt told her she's pretty. Would she think he's needy?
And, the next time you're at the mall and want to sarge the sexy Hired Gun at the jewelry store, try walking right in
Done that. I've even pointed out chicks i like to coworkers and had them go fetch em for me.
you're likely to get ****-blocked by a male associate
Regardless of what he says, shoot back "don't you wish you had the balls to do this too?" and he's gone. Not that i've ever had to do that, cuz this has never happened. If anything, other male workers will HELP me and cheer me on! It comes with the vibe, man. Your vibe says "we're AGAINST eachother," mine says "we're on the SAME team man!" I.e. i was downtown last week and saw a black guy literally chasing two gorgeous Asian women. He was having NO luck having them to even stop! What did i do? I stopped them for him, put my hand on his shoulder, and told them that this right here, is THE man in this city. Karma, baby!
when I'm nervous to approach, I find the cell-phone an invaluable tool...
When i'm nervous, i find courage to be an invaluable tool
Using your compliment method got me a countless number of "thank you"s, but when a women thanks you for complimenting, tha t usually means the convo is coming to a dead end.
You weren't doing it right. Perhaps you came off as supplicating. The compliment opener, if you choose to use it (it is one of MANY types of openers for direct/natural game), isn't supposed to come off as being the PURPOSE of your approach, but rather something you said (because you couldn't help it!) to a girl that you really wanted to get to know.
i haveBBX said:field report it insted of f*cking guessing.
and AFCs find getting rejected by a girl humiliating. break out of the social matrix.Krassus said:One HUNDRED percent LYING. You can't argue this. Dude, if i had to walk around with a fake shopping bag and pretend to be talking on the phone to get laid, i'd rather get a hooker, cuz that's just humiliating.
i wouldnt waste my timeBBX said:field report it insted of f*cking guessing.
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Bud, the last time i tried to pick up a 7 i was still in high schooldirtyvibe said:i have
it works on hb 1-7s , 8+ you need the mystery method
youre also going to get a lot of numbers that are fake or the girl won't pick up doing that, because youre basically just saying hi then asking interview questions. any guy can do that and most guys do.
I guess the fact that this is PRECISELY how i @closed an Asian import model (in 20 sec) two weeks ago doesn't matter? I then did the exact same thing with the next 3 single chicks i approached. The other 3 chicks i approached shot me down because um... their boyfriends were standing next to them. "Don't blame the method, blame the man."d2j said:i couldnt imagine this would work..a HB would just think "yeah and your another loser"
Better than nothing though
Only if you have no self-esteem. Rejection is a NECESSARY part of learning.dirtyvibe said:and AFCs find getting rejected by a girl humiliating. break out of the social matrix.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
PRETNEDING to be confident will make you LESS confident. The more you focus on confidence, the more you think about it, the LESS you feel it. You can ONLY be confident when the entire concept of confidence DISAPPEARS from your conscious thought. This can ONLY be achieved by persistently conquering your fears through ACTION. Walking around and pretending to be on the phone isn't conquering your fears, but GIVING IN to them. Lying, pretending and misrepresenting are ALL forms of succumbing to hear. They are LETHAL to confidence, and only breed arrogance, which is one of the most potent chick repellants i've come in contact with. Finally, truth be said, when i have to, i can be as confident as a granite boulder. However, this does NOT help you get chicks, it only makes you look like a player who's done this so many times that he no longer feels ANYTHING. How much fun do you think interacting with someone like THAT would be? Having a genuine smile on your face and even acting a little shy will BY FAR get you better results than walking around and pretending to be Rambo. And yea, this has been tested to death, as i talk to more hot chicks in a single weekend than most guys here do in a year.mattb717 said:I'm new to this and all, but isn't one of the first things all these Don Juan article writers usually say is that you have to ACT confident even if you aren't? You're pretending either way whether you have a cell phone or not in a lot of cases.
Where on earth did you get this information from? is it an assumption or have you met him in person? do you know anything about mystery?Krassus said:Mystery has no character, and any man who aspires to become like him is in for SEVERE disappointment.
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LMAO, I'm sorry I had to contribute to this thread.dirtyvibe said:i have
it works on hb 1-7s , 8+ you need the mystery method
youre also going to get a lot of numbers that are fake or the girl won't pick up doing that, because youre basically just saying hi then asking interview questions. any guy can do that and most guys do.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.