Male Friends in Groups during approaches, my kryptonite

[DonJoseCantosie]

Hey fellas, almost all other situations...i'm fine at but there is one situation i can never seem to get past. A male guy in a group that says he's a friend but is after the girl. Typically he'll put his arm around her whenever i'm about to isolate her and then say "I won't allow it" or he'll put his arm around her tighter, but she doesn't know what to do. I've improved with this by staying there and not moving and times if the guy isn't that aggressive with it, he'll walk away BUT if he's after, he won't go anywhere. Plus she doesn't want to tell him to go away. Its as if she's forced to go along with what he's doing because he's part of the group.

How can I overcome this? If its a fellow random guy, its MUCH easier since he's got barely any influence but if its a guy who's in the group...its much tougher. Any suggestions from guys with fellow cold approaching experience? This is my last hurdle...all other situations are fine. Not to sound arrogant, I know I'm a threat otherwise he wouldn't try to intervene...but how do I handle this? If i can get the right advice, I can feel at piece and do EVEN better.

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

Figured one part of the puzzle, ignore what he's doing and keep talking as if your not affected and dont even look at him while his arm is around her and keep talking as if its not a bother. Also to clue her in non verbally. Plus she's got to be into you a good deal to get past it. If she isn't that much attracted, i dont think it'll do much.

 

[Lexington]

Be friendly to the guy but while you're running game act, like he doesn't exist. If she's into you, trust me, she'll come with you. I know this because back in my AFC days, I WAS that guy a couple of times! If a girl is into you, she will let you isolate her. The key is to not get affected by this guy at all. Continue to do everything the same.

The guy can't just keep his arm around her the whole night. If he did, that would be very weird. Just stay there and wait for the moment when he fvcks off. He'll have to go to the bathroom, or maybe she will. He'll talk to other people or maybe he'll have to go and get a drink. If nothing else, the girl will get sick of having some this guy's arm around her.

As soon as the douche leaves, isolate. I doubt he'd be enough of a c0cksucker to come and interrupt when you two are off by yourselves. If he continues to be a complete prick, just get her number and hit her up later.

 

[Ease]

Sounds very cheesy.

You need to disarm him. If a guy comes up to my group and makes obvious attempts like a goofball, ill shoot him down just for laughs. Even if im not seriously interested in any of the girls, ill make you look stupid because your trying to steal my shine as centre of attention of my group. DHV myself and DLV the nerd, just because i can.

You need to disarm me. Beat me at my own game and befriend me. Beat me at my own game by out-alpha-ing me. If you make me feel like your an even cooler guy than me then i will hesitate to get on the wrong side of you. This doesnt mean attack me neceserily, this means establish yourself as an even more confident, funny and popular guy. Ask the guy the time and make a joke about what an ugly guy that bouncer is. If you can genuinely make the guys and group laugh and establish yourself as a super cool guy then you wont meet any shoot downs from the guys. Pua's call it 'amog'ing, search up if you like, but the pua community is over-ridden with nerds that their advice isnt very useful most of the time.

Unless you establishing yourself as a better man, you will get a negative response from the other guys. As guys we either feel as though we are superior or we inferior to another man in such a situation. If he thinks he's still better then he might challange you, with something like your describing. A snide comment, a joke, an outright arm around the girl your talking to. But think about it, would he do that if a celebrity walked up to the group. He would naturally fall in place.

This is no easy task, requires practiced social skills. They say approaching sets is a waste of time for a girl, id agree with that. Think about alpha power moves. A hand on the guys shoulder, a funny joke making the group laugh, an unnessecery favour request- all of these are displays of power.

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

Be friendly to the guy but while you're running game act, like he doesn't exist. If she's into you, trust me, she'll come with you. I know this because back in my AFC days, I WAS that guy a couple of times! If a girl is into you, she will let you isolate her. The key is to not get affected by this guy at all. Continue to do everything the same.

The guy can't just keep his arm around her the whole night. If he did, that would be very weird. Just stay there and wait for the moment when he fvcks off. He'll have to go to the bathroom, or maybe she will. He'll talk to other people or maybe he'll have to go and get a drink. If nothing else, the girl will get sick of having some this guy's arm around her.

You have a point. Eventually he'll take his arm off. He's going to have to at some point. If he storms with her somewhere else. I wait till he's gone ffrom her and continue to talk.

As soon as the douche leaves, isolate. I doubt he'd be enough of a c0cksucker to come and interrupt when you two are off by yourselves. If he continues to be a complete prick, just get her number and hit her up later.

Thanks my man! That helped alot! Silent Power...the one thing people hate more than anything is to be ignored. If the guy tries to block you away...i dont leave...i stay still talking to her for as long as it takes. If he tries to move to a different angle. I move over to that angle and keep talking. If he tries to start sh1t, he'll look worse in front of the girl. I can even tease to her about it. Some girls even tell me at times that the guy has been after her for a while. If worst comes to worst, i just get her number.

APPRECIATE IT! I'll be ready the next time!