Male Entitlement Syndrome

[sambwoy]

I looked into a page on Male Entitlement Syndrome- it tries to rehabilitate men into thinking that no-one owes them a relationship, specifically, more or less, one with a hot woman, and that it requires much work.

I think the advice here does not reflect society.

Thing is, I'm not entitled to an attractive woman and I accept that, but the problem is my outlook, and that is half the battle.
Problem though, is when all the girls you know think they are going to snag a hot guy that is rare (i.e. the kind who think life is a Hollywood movie), you already have the problem of believing you are worthy of love/relationships despite your shortcomings.

What it doesn't address is that some girls' standards are unrealistically high too.
Why should I lower my standards when most of them won't lower theirs?

Ever had a woman publicly weigh you by your looks? That's what I talking about.
What do you think?

 

[SgtSplacker]

The advice here is geared towards helping guys with issues meeting women. Sometimes the things here may seem a bit unusual but when regarded in the context of helping AFCs better themselves these radical approaches make more sense because they help us avoid doing the same stupid crap over and over again.

Men are different than women in the sense that many women really can't support themselves or their habits. Too many POF profiles where a girl has some crappy job listed yet as her interests lists traveling, boating (doesn't own a boat) or other generally expensive things a girl working in a beauty salon with 2 kids would never afford, pictures next to Ferrari's etc. But she can get away with listing those things because she is pretty. One can easily say she does not deserve those things because she really has done nothing to earn them. But she is able to compete because she is in demand by men. She is marketing herself like an item and showing you what category she sees herself in. Basically telling you she needs a guy that can afford those things.

So in a situation where we as men are trying to see what we deserve, we can see it's all about your value as a man. Things that include income, intelligence, personal property, looks etc. An ugly man can have a very pretty girlfriend any day of the week as long as his value is much greater than hers. Does he deserve her? Well ask yourself if he is paying for her company in some abstract way. Do you deserve things you are paying for? I think you do (it doesn't even fu-cking matter really as long as you have it). But to say that you deserve something only because you look a certain way is a different argument altogether. For women it's different, because plastic surgery leaves them looking horrible if they go too far, beyond that their options are limited. They usually do not have the same motivations men do to succeed. Most pretty girls I know just hooked up with a wealthy dude and live happily ever after making babies. Even after 40 a woman's value really begins to decline, for men it's the opposite. More money = more boats, cars, and trips... and more HOs. More 21 year old girls to pile on his boat and go to the sandbar, a sandbar that is full of boats owned by men full of girls that barely make enough to dress themselves.

It's not about someone owing you a relationship, it's about you understanding that you can completely change the way you look to women because of your actions. The difference between an ugly and pretty girlfriend can be just getting a better job. It's not that easy for women.

I know i'm generally putting a really negative spin on women in general, but if the shoe fits.... If you are one of those gals that went to college and can really support all the things you put in the about me, or likes section. A girl that can actually buy a boat or a nice car for herself, then you go girl.

 

[Plutoman]

They won't lower their standards, so why should you? Yep, that's truth. If you get more value out of jerking it to porn, why should you go settle for some chubby?

No, a man is not entitled to a relationship, especially if he doesn't work on himself. But neither is a woman. It goes both ways quite simply. If a man wants to be with a pretty girl, then he has to put himself in that league. If a woman wants to be with a rich, a good looking guy, confident guy, she's gotta put herself in his league (or else search for some beta schlub willing to settle).

There's a corollary in which there's a point of no return - in which satisfying yourself and living your own life is more satisfying than settling. If you are at that level though, then you should be wanting to improve yourself. If you lack the motivation to improve yourself, then you lack the motivation to maintain a proper relationship, too.

Anyways, it should simply be renamed to "Entitlement Syndrome", because it cuts both ways. Women have the exact same problem, likely more exacerbated by the fact of men dumpster diving and maintaining their ego's with pump n' dumps, but it is not being addressed (it, in fact, is being supported by the massive feminist movement and the 'man up' movement to push men to actually date these chubbies).

All you can do is live your life and not settle. Eventually girls will start taking the hint. Or we'll all get realistic sex dolls, I'm sure they'll come fairly soon.

 

[sambwoy]

They won't lower their standards, so why should you? Yep, that's truth.

How they can evaluate a guy based on looks alone, out loud, in front of others and their friends, or on TV, set against a totally non-existent criteria and get away with it appalls me.

Its not the guy's fault she's brainwashed by movies.

 

[VladPatton]

Disillusionment is part of maturing. Unfortunately, we are all not going to be 10/10 in looks and be the heir to the J.P Morgan Chase fortune. Sorry, but you need to come out of the right penis for that to happen.

It took a lot for me to break out of that. Trust me though, once you do it is very humbling and vulnerable. It makes you want to leave that state. For me, it was hitting the gym every day. Women ironically sense this and really like it.

The thing is, most women cannot really leave their little boxes. If their a HB4, they are an HB4. If you're a dude that is fat, by working out and bettering yourself you can easily land more attractive women.

Same goes for a job and money. When I was in school, girls passed me by left and right. Now I have a job, money, and a more fit body the same women who wouldn't give me the time of day give me the time of day. I don't waste my time on them.

Does it suck? Yeah it does. I hate how HB8s and 9s get life handed to them on a silver platter. But South Park put it nicely, their beauty will fade and one day they won't be able to utilize their looks to get free stuff. I've seen it happen to women (especially ones who fear aging). It is life's bitter punishment to the beautiful and it is a sweet site to behold.

Agreed 100%.