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Making the transition from mystery to the real you

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I went out to karaoke for my friend's birthday last night. There were two girls hanging out with the group (UG4 & HB7.5). I engaged both and talked through the night. The UG was head over heels for me asking me all these questions to which I answered with ridiculous things & she was loving it. My target was not too receptive and I later found out she had a boyfriend and was 10 years older than me. Anyway, my question is how soon do you make the transition from the mystery to revealing some information. She kept saying "haha, no really! Where are you from, where do you work, where do you live, how old are you, blah, blah, blah."

I'm all ears.
 

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Robyn923b said:
Anyway, my question is how soon do you make the transition from the mystery to revealing some information. She kept saying "haha, no really! Where are you from, where do you work, where do you live, how old are you, blah, blah, blah."

I'm all ears.
Whenever you feel that it's appropriate.

Are you asking for some kind of formula, like a specific graph with a curve that correlates between time of mystery and the temperature of her ears (since it signifies her level of frustration with you)?

If you don't want to tell her, just say you don't want to talk about it. If you do want to tell her, tell her. Don't keep messing with her because she'll eventually get frustrated and annoyed by you, and you'll blow yourself out.

This applies to ALL women, not just this particular ugly girl.
 

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Robyn923b said:
The UG was head over heels for me asking me all these questions to which I answered with ridiculous things & she was loving it. My target was not too receptive
The real question is, how the f*ck can this be turned around!! Ahh, I'm so tired of that!

Can you tell I am tired of this being my reality?? :)
 

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just tell her bits and pieces about that actually raises more questions (the good kind) about you than actually answering anything.
 

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Why mess with what's working...when you're not even on a date with her yet!

Brother you need to chill out. Contain that urge to tell women you just met at a kareoke bar your life story! So the c&f is working on her good but she put just a bit of pressure on you to the point you needed to come to sosuave to get some validation on giving her what she wants.

Those are qualifying questions when you should be qualifying her! You should be focusing on improving your interactions with them so that you are qualifying them not the other way around.
 

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Wow. First of all, this isn't a game. You're not going to put on a mask of mysteriousness (like Mario's cape), jump on top of the UG for 10 points, get that exclamation block for a mushroom to reveal yourself.

Bro, the reason the girl liked you in the 1st place was because of either your archetype and the image she had of you. You can tease her or open up to her and that image of you won't change.

Now the girlfriend... she CLEARLY has someone else higher on the prospect list THAN YOU. Sorry, but that's the truth. It could be the boyfriend or some other guy... just befriend her for now and who knows, maybe they'll break up and you're the next guy on the prospect list.

This thread is seriously messed up. Use ****y funny??? Qualifying?? Bro, the PUA stuff is dead. David Deangelo isn't even in the business anymore. At the end of the day, lifestyle trumps whatever gimmick or level-up character you try to play.
 

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Vice said:
Whenever you feel that it's appropriate.

Are you asking for some kind of formula?

If you don't want to tell her, just say you don't want to talk about it. If you do want to tell her, tell her. Don't keep messing with her because she'll eventually get frustrated and annoyed by you, and you'll blow yourself out.

This applies to ALL women
I'm not asking for formulas. Usually I share things about me gradually as situations come up and it works well. I wanted to hear other opinions as to how long it takes guys to do it. It sounds like we have the same approach, thanks.

f283000 said:
Why mess with what's working...when you're not even on a date with her yet!

Brother you need to chill out. Contain that urge to tell women you just met at a kareoke bar your life story! So the c&f is working on her good but she put just a bit of pressure on you to the point you needed to come to sosuave to get some validation on giving her what she wants.

Those are qualifying questions when you should be qualifying her! You should be focusing on improving your interactions with them so that you are qualifying them not the other way around.
You completely missed the point. I don't know where you picked up the idea that I have an urge to tell women my life story because I don't. I know how to qualify a girl I'm interested in. This girl is a UG. I am not going to waste my time investing in her. I had better things to do like singing, which got me IOI's from other women.

st_99 said:
The real question is, how the f*ck can this be turned around!! Ahh, I'm so tired of that!

Can you tell I am tired of this being my reality?? :)
I didn't pursue my target. I got some intel about her that didn't click for me and I decided to go after other girls. It all depends on your game and how you communicate. Read The Mystery Method and you will get lots of ideas.

Songz said:
Wow. First of all, this isn't a game. You're not going to put on a mask of mysteriousness (like Mario's cape), jump on top of the UG for 10 points, get that exclamation block for a mushroom to reveal yourself.

Bro, the reason the girl liked you in the 1st place was because of either your archetype and the image she had of you. You can tease her or open up to her and that image of you won't change.

Now the girlfriend... she CLEARLY has someone else higher on the prospect list THAN YOU. Sorry, but that's the truth. It could be the boyfriend or some other guy... just befriend her for now and who knows, maybe they'll break up and you're the next guy on the prospect list.

This thread is seriously messed up. Use ****y funny??? Qualifying?? Bro, the PUA stuff is dead. David Deangelo isn't even in the business anymore. At the end of the day, lifestyle trumps whatever gimmick or level-up character you try to play.
Completely ignored after reading the first sentence. This is you: Picture
 

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What is up with all the sosuave newbies and their negativity? Seriously, I feel like half these trolls are angry females.

Just sit her down after a couple of hours and say, "Ok, so you wanted to know what I'm majoring in..." And continue from there. Her interest level is obviously high, and you already have her hooked. You left a good first impression on her and at this point you can stop negging and/or teasing her or whatever and tell her honest answers. At least that's what I do.
 

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You do that more in the rapport stage when you are on a date or bouncing her to different locations. If she's asking questions she's into you. Lower energy, isolate, kino.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Yeah no more negging. You can tease however and allow her to qualify. Push pull is good at this point but I think she's pretty into you. Get her number and second date or instant date.
 

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Robyn923b said:
Anyway, my question is how soon do you make the transition from the mystery to revealing some information. She kept saying "haha, no really! Where are you from, where do you work, where do you live, how old are you, blah, blah, blah."
Never. You must maintain the mystery. You must never reveal anything about yourself to her. Do NOT let her know where you live, or where you work, or even IF you work. Do not let her see what your schlong looks like. As soon as she finds out anything about the real you, it kills all attraction.

Lol, just kidding. I just wrote that to show that relying on mystery to create attraction is a very short term game. Better to improve yourself and actually become an attractive person, than to let her guess while hiding that you're not.
 

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OC Speedball said:
What is up with all the sosuave newbies and their negativity? Seriously, I feel like half these trolls are angry females.

You left a good first impression on her and at this point you can stop negging and/or teasing her or whatever and tell her honest answers. At least that's what I do.
I have been asking myself the same question. The troll population in the forum has skyrocketed lately. Good stuff, thank you for a straight forward answer.


fertileTurtle said:
If she's asking questions she's into you. Lower energy, isolate, kino.

Amen.

zekko said:
Never. Lol, just kidding. I just wrote that to show that relying on mystery to create attraction is a very short term game. Better to improve yourself and actually become an attractive person, than to let her guess while hiding that you're not.

Haha, I hear your message and how not answering questions could seem like I'm hiding something. Hm...I never thought of it that way.

To conclude, the answer of when to transition to the real you is when you feel it is appropriate. Have acuity around the girl you're talking to!
 

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Robyn923b said:
I have been asking myself the same question. The troll population in the forum has skyrocketed lately. Good stuff, thank you for a straight forward answer.
They are probably from anti-game sites and blogs who are currently making a concerted effort all over the internet against game sites.
 
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