Francisco d'Anconia
Master Don Juan
Depends whether or not you tell the person you're cheating on. But if you tell them, would it really be cheating?nubian-knight said:yay or nay?
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
Depends whether or not you tell the person you're cheating on. But if you tell them, would it really be cheating?nubian-knight said:yay or nay?
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
LOLSkillzthatKillz said:If i have a g/f and i make out with another chick...no it's not cheating. If a girl i'm seeing makes out with another guy, yes thats cheating.
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.
mind elaborating?LostAndConfused said:I WOULD agree with skillzthatkillz.....but feminism brought up that "double standard" :crackup:
whether or not those things are AFC depends on how you carried yourselfrandalll said:well she came over n we ended up having sex, was good. but afterwards i was well afc, i said id walk her home later on (instead of her getting a lift then and there) cos i wanted to stay and watch a film with her, then i told her to text me... urgh that was so afc
he's saying guys DESERVE that double standardMaster Bates said:mind elaborating?
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
GREAT POST!!!DannykDJ said:Different people define cheating as different things.
To get your definition ask yourself this. What would you end a relationship for
would you break up with your gf if she
-flirted with other guys
-went out with a guy friend 1 on 1 for casual fun
- made out with another man/woman
- had sex with another man/woman
-talks to other men on the phone or online in a sexuall way
- grinding other men at a club dancing
notice I put kissing/sex with other women because some men consider it cheating even if its another womanl. I have also heard it sucks alot to have your gf leave you for a women
also think about which of those would you find acceptable to do in front of your gf. If you wouldn't do it in front of her or want her to know you're doing it then it most likely is a form of cheating.
I like this rule, but either of these rules must be madeDoctorLW said:And for the record, my girl can hook-up with another girl as much as she wants in any way she wants and I'd have no problem with it.
lol. I got a fb like this. she will get drunk and make out with someone. If I'm there she won't do it. but often times she won't know I'm at the club.randalll said:this girl ive been seeing, but not officially going out with... made out with a guy last night, at the same club i was at!
this morning, she texted me asking if i hated her, and said she really fvcking like me.
i really dont know what to do about this, she defo likes me but i cant handle her doing this sh!t again.
she might've had sex with the guy as well cos i saw them going into another club, and it's likely she slept over at his afterwards.
this is messed up
Uh no, I was just saying feminists wouldn't like a comment like hisready123 said:he's saying guys DESERVE that double standard
I don't get it either
Warrior74 said:your a dj right? in this game you can't wear your heart on your sleeve. use her for sex, she doesn't deserve anything more than that. other wise move on. shes not girlfriend material for you.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
randalll said:this girl ive been seeing, but not officially going out with... made out with a guy last night, at the same club i was at!
this morning, she texted me asking if i hated her, and said she really fvcking like me.
i really dont know what to do about this, she defo likes me but i cant handle her doing this sh!t again.
she might've had sex with the guy as well cos i saw them going into another club, and it's likely she slept over at his afterwards.
this is messed up
DoctorLW said:I don't think so. You can get up caught in the moment. How many of you would honestly turn away a girls kiss if it was coming for ya? It's a lot harder than you think. It's what you do after that.