"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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making out: cheating?

Making out cheating?

  • Yea

    Votes: 47 95.9%
  • Na

    Votes: 2 4.1%

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Francisco d'Anconia

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nubian-knight said:
yay or nay?
Depends whether or not you tell the person you're cheating on. But if you tell them, would it really be cheating?
 

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She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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If i have a g/f and i make out with another chick...no it's not cheating. If a girl i'm seeing makes out with another guy, yes thats cheating.
 

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SkillzthatKillz said:
If i have a g/f and i make out with another chick...no it's not cheating. If a girl i'm seeing makes out with another guy, yes thats cheating.
LOL
 

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well she came over n we ended up having sex, was good. but afterwards i was well afc, i said id walk her home later on (instead of her getting a lift then and there) cos i wanted to stay and watch a film with her, then i told her to text me... urgh that was so afc

gonna cut contact with her for a while tho (Y)
 

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Once making out happens, its pretty much on the same road as sex. all that needs to happen is some more escalation.

I WOULD agree with skillzthatkillz.....but feminism brought up that "double standard" :crackup:
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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It's ok for me. Not ok for the girl I'm with.

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50 cent: I'm into having sex, I ain't into making love.
 

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randalll said:
well she came over n we ended up having sex, was good. but afterwards i was well afc, i said id walk her home later on (instead of her getting a lift then and there) cos i wanted to stay and watch a film with her, then i told her to text me... urgh that was so afc
whether or not those things are AFC depends on how you carried yourself
 

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Master Bates said:
mind elaborating?
he's saying guys DESERVE that double standard

I don't get it either
 

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There is nothing to elaborate on. I was only kidding. But this topic does hit close to home. I have made out with other girls while dating my g/f. Not something I’m proud of mind you. But it was early in our relationship, so i don't think it counts. But hey, at least i didn't plow anyone else.

But if you feel yourself giving into temptation here is some advice:

1.If you have to do it, fine but make sure your girl wont ever ever find out. And make sure you wont see this girl again.
2.See rule one
3.see rule one
4. Afterwards is hard and your going to have to face some cold hard truths of looking at yourself in the mirror the next day. So if you have an over active conscience DON'T DO IT!
5. If you feel really bad at least wait five days before you tell your girl (that you were sucking someone else's face). If you still feel bad after that time go ahead and tell her. But by then your guilt should be gone.

And by the way, yes making out is cheating, only not as bad as sex. But take it from me, it's better not to make out with the girl and put yourself through all that.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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DannykDJ said:
Different people define cheating as different things.

To get your definition ask yourself this. What would you end a relationship for

would you break up with your gf if she
-flirted with other guys
-went out with a guy friend 1 on 1 for casual fun
- made out with another man/woman
- had sex with another man/woman
-talks to other men on the phone or online in a sexuall way
- grinding other men at a club dancing

notice I put kissing/sex with other women because some men consider it cheating even if its another womanl. I have also heard it sucks alot to have your gf leave you for a women

also think about which of those would you find acceptable to do in front of your gf. If you wouldn't do it in front of her or want her to know you're doing it then it most likely is a form of cheating.
GREAT POST!!!
 

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DoctorLW said:
And for the record, my girl can hook-up with another girl as much as she wants in any way she wants and I'd have no problem with it.
I like this rule, but either of these rules must be made
A.) Make a video for me to watch later.
B.) I join in.
C.) both

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randalll said:
this girl ive been seeing, but not officially going out with... made out with a guy last night, at the same club i was at!

this morning, she texted me asking if i hated her, and said she really fvcking like me.

i really dont know what to do about this, she defo likes me but i cant handle her doing this sh!t again.

she might've had sex with the guy as well cos i saw them going into another club, and it's likely she slept over at his afterwards.

this is messed up
lol. I got a fb like this. she will get drunk and make out with someone. If I'm there she won't do it. but often times she won't know I'm at the club.

You can't handle it? why?

your a dj right? in this game you can't wear your heart on your sleeve. use her for sex, she doesn't deserve anything more than that. other wise move on. shes not girlfriend material for you.
 

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Warrior74 said:
your a dj right? in this game you can't wear your heart on your sleeve. use her for sex, she doesn't deserve anything more than that. other wise move on. shes not girlfriend material for you.

its just difficult to do that, seeing as when she's sobre i trust her completely.
we have a really good time together, and its hard not to let your feelings become clear, i mean she's told me she really likes me, and i said it back.

i kind of broke things off with her today, but we texted for ages afterwards, and she's gonna come to mine tomorrow, we'll just hang out for a bit probably
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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randalll said:
this girl ive been seeing, but not officially going out with... made out with a guy last night, at the same club i was at!

this morning, she texted me asking if i hated her, and said she really fvcking like me.

i really dont know what to do about this, she defo likes me but i cant handle her doing this sh!t again.

she might've had sex with the guy as well cos i saw them going into another club, and it's likely she slept over at his afterwards.

this is messed up

What!? Dude...
If she does it once, she's gonna do it again. Maybe not with you (but most likely), but she will do it again. I don't care if it was "just" making out, that's cheating. I'm sorry but I couldn't trust the girl after something like that. There's too many girls out there, why would you bother with the one who can't control herself and has no morals?

I mean think about it, she basically just took that level of trust between you two, pissed on it, and then said sorry for pissing on it. BS! "Oh sorry baby! I totally won't do it again." She's just trying to work the power of the pvssy against you.
 

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In all honesty, if a really hot HB went in for a kiss I would not stop her even if I had a GF. But make no mistake, it's cheating hands down. I wouldn't fault a GF if she decided to break up with me if she found out. I'd feel bad but I wouldn't blame her for doing it.

I haven't done it but if presented with the situation that is my likely reaction. In defense of myself I treat any woman I am with exceptionally well when I am with them. Nothing AFC of course.

DoctorLW said:
I don't think so. You can get up caught in the moment. How many of you would honestly turn away a girls kiss if it was coming for ya? It's a lot harder than you think. It's what you do after that.
 

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I'd dump her ass the second I found out for sure she did.
Sheeiit son her HOLDING HANDS with another dude crosses the line.
 

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