"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Making friends with unattractive women...

scudge

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I've been hearing a lot lately about how having female friends can really help you meet more women and have more social proof... Etc.

Do they have to be hot for this to work?

The reason I'm asking this is because I have a history of making friends with girls who are kind of cute, even if I don't notice at first. Then I get attracted to them, things get awkward, and usually have to end the friendship because I can't accept being friend zoned.

I'm just wondering if I could avoid this by making ugly female friends.
Or am I just going to be wasting my time?

And if this will help me, how would I go about making a bunch of female friends?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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rrrrr

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You can make friends with anyone. It doesn't matter what they look like. Best way to make friends is to network with existing friends and attend all functions/parties. If you're expecting them to set you up hope you have better luck than I do. I don't ask to be set up but one girl in particular sets me up with very large women (I'm not fat). Finally when she did it again I told her to never set me up again. I've never been set up with a hot woman by one of my girl friends. Not that she needs to be hot for me to date her just ok
 

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You wont get set up with too many hotties because its the ugly/fatties that NEED to be set up.

That said - make friends with everyone. More social proof, bigger social circle - everyone knows you, likes you and you'll have more chance of meeting hot girls thaty are friends of friends.

Any that see you will wonder why everyone knows you and they dont. There you go - she's already thinking about you. :up:
 

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rrrrr said:
You can make friends with anyone. It doesn't matter what they look like. Best way to make friends is to network with existing friends and attend all functions/parties.
I agree with that. You shouldn't limit yourself to being friends with just attractive people, that makes you stuck up. Also, less attractive people can sometimes be interesting in other ways.

That said, I don't believe that fat, ugly women give you good social proof, not like being with a hot woman will. Being with a hot woman is what gets women's attention. Any old slag can hang out with a fat girl. But if you're in a crowd and a lot of people know you and like you, that can be good social proof.

Purefilth said:
You wont get set up with too many hotties because its the ugly/fatties that NEED to be set up.
Unfortunately true. The attractive girls get approached on their own, and already have multiple options.
 

VladPatton

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It is never bad to expand your social network, so yes, you should do it. No one is gonna make you give those grenades rimjobs in the restroom. You keep it friendly and YOU put THEM in the Friend Zone, all the while improving your social status.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Nothing wrong with having ugly/fat female friends. Just don't let anyone see them coming out of your room in the morning.
 

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I personally believe that no matter the level of attractiveness a woman who is a friend provides this. Because of the what does she have that I do not factor, especially if you are fashionable and handsome.
 

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Maybe it's just me, but I've always had trouble being friends with ugly girls. I just have no motivation to talk to them, to be around them, to be seen with them...

I had a conversation about this with a female friend of mine, and she agreed. So maybe it's not just me...
 

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scudge said:
I've been hearing a lot lately about how having female friends can really help you meet more women and have more social proof... Etc.

Do they have to be hot for this to work?
I found that having female friends (good, ugly whatever) helps you meet more women period. and as far as social proof, i am pretty sure only hot women can help with that, no ones gonna praise someone for something unattractive by their side.

ARrocket said:
Maybe it's just me, but I've always had trouble being friends with ugly girls. I just have no motivation to talk to them, to be around them, to be seen with them..
I felt like this all my life, pretty much was annoyed by even making eye contact with an ugly girl, but now i try to use them to my advantage and meet more girls and its actually working for me .
 
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