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[BeTheChange]

Just got back from salsa and had a great time.

After a year of fun, major embarrassments and many stepped on feet I've had a breakthrough these last few weeks. I'm actually managing to commit to long term memory many of the moves I've spent the last few months fumbling through. My technique has improved markedly as has the variety of moves. I feel the music rather than just roll out steps learnt in classes. I incorporate character into the dance as well as other styles closer to my roots (hip hop, body control, street dancing)

Two things made tonight particularly eventful. I had several good female dancers ask me to dance after they saw me dancing with earlier women. Something that's never happened before. Secondly I danced with another woman from the intermediate class who was genuinely surprised that I'd only been dancing salsa for a year. Both are big deals. Particularly the first one.

This is the type of stuff we do. You can get a feel of the flow from the first minute of this video

I rate nights like this better than the majority of nights I've ever had with women. The sense of achievement is amazing. Honestly couldn't care less about women at the moment and ironically salsa is a fantastic place to meet the hottest, nimble and sexy women in the city. Starting Bachata and Kizomba are my next goals alongside mastering salsa over the next few years. Going to be doubling down on dance long term. Also find this style cool too.

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"Thus a new and good habit is born, for when an act becomes easy through constant repetition it becomes a pleasure to perform and if it is a pleasure to perform it is man's nature to perform it often. When I perform it often it becomes a habit and I become its slave and since it is a good habit this is my will"

 

[BeTheChange]

Damn.

 

[MillionBillionaire]

Hey bro.. how many nights per week do you attend and how long do the classes last? ... I only have one night a week I can go out and that is a Sunday.

Are Salsa nights even worth it on Sundays?

I have been going back and forth between MMA and Salsa.

That or I'm going to dedicate my Sunday night to making Youtube videos.. but I seriously need a hobby.

 

[Von]

Dance class are awesome, it got me à LTR.

There is a learning curve indeed. Glad you broke to it

Bring your approach to dancing into your personality

 

[MatureDJ]

Dance class are awesome, it got me à LTR.

There is a learning curve indeed. Glad you broke to it

Bring your approach to dancing into your personality

And it got you to use the short accent in à.

 

[BeTheChange]

Dance class are awesome, it got me à LTR.

There is a learning curve indeed. Glad you broke to it

Bring your approach to dancing into your personality

Yes so glad I got into it. Until last night I still saw myself as a beginner. It's similar to the skinny guy who goes to the gym and puts on muscle but still mentally sees themselves as scrawny because it's the image they've been used to for so long.

Glad I finally broke through. Feels great.

 

[BeTheChange]

Hey bro.. how many nights per week do you attend and how long do the classes last? ... I only have one night a week I can go out and that is a Sunday.

Are Salsa nights even worth it on Sundays?

I have been going back and forth between MMA and Salsa.

That or I'm going to dedicate my Sunday night to making Youtube videos.. but I seriously need a hobby.

Salsa is great because it is a hobby that allows you to develop a useful skill, it's fun and it's social. Any hobby that hits those three boxes is ideal.
Prior to last month I probably averaged one lesson every two weeks. Last two months I averaged a lesson a month and going forward I'm seeking to do atleast two a week. My ambition is to be advanced by this time next year.

 

[Fruitbat]

Manhood is challenged by dancing, seems like a pretty gay hobby. I just couldn't make myself do it.

Pub, watching sports, even MMA (which I have no interest in) seem like masculine activities. I'd just assume most women at salsa dancing classes are very much into physique and looks and are therefore bad material for LTR. Not going to be homely women, but good for a bang.

Does anyone actually like it or is it actually impressing women that drives it? Fair enough if it's your thing but I just cannot relate to salsa dancing as anything but a shroud to procure female attention. I bet you'd rather be playing sports if I am being honest. I can't see how a grown man has an interest in it. It's quite obviiosly a womans thing and based on some disnet female romance idea of some dark stranger dancing in some moonlit bar.

Each to their own but I am not going to ballet class anytime soon!

 

[Fruitbat]

Manhood is challenged by dancing, seems like a pretty gay hobby. I just couldn't make myself do it.

Pub, watching sports, even MMA (which I have no interest in) seem like masculine activities. I'd just assume most women at salsa dancing classes are very much into physique and looks and are therefore bad material for LTR. Not going to be homely women, but good for a bang.

Does anyone actually like it or is it actually impressing women that drives it? Fair enough if it's your thing but I just cannot relate to salsa dancing as anything but a shroud to procure female attention. I bet you'd rather be playing sports if I am being honest. I can't see how a grown man has an interest in it. It's quite obviiosly a womans thing and based on some disnet female romance idea of some dark stranger dancing in some moonlit bar.

Each to their own but I am not going to ballet class anytime soon!

Just realise that sounds a bit bytchy. Not really having a go, I wish I could to be honest, for the poon. It's just I would feel insincere doing it.

 

[BeTheChange]

Manhood is challenged by dancing, seems like a pretty gay hobby. I just couldn't make myself do it.

Pub, watching sports, even MMA (which I have no interest in) seem like masculine activities. I'd just assume most women at salsa dancing classes are very much into physique and looks and are therefore bad material for LTR. Not going to be homely women, but good for a bang.

Does anyone actually like it or is it actually impressing women that drives it? Fair enough if it's your thing but I just cannot relate to salsa dancing as anything but a shroud to procure female attention. I bet you'd rather be playing sports if I am being honest. I can't see how a grown man has an interest in it. It's quite obviiosly a womans thing and based on some disnet female romance idea of some dark stranger dancing in some moonlit bar.

Each to their own but I am not going to ballet class anytime soon!

You have a strange concept of manhood. How exactly necking a few pints at the pub more intrinsically masculine than spending time perfecting the precise movements and technique required to pull of a dance like this:

Your post couldn't be further from the truth. I'd say at least 50% of beginner men are there for the women. Most don't last long. The majority of those dancing for more than a year stick around for the love of the art. There are actually solid psychological and biological reasons why women are attracted to men who can dance.

 

[Fruitbat]

You have a strange concept of manhood. How exactly necking a few pints at the pub more intrinsically masculine than spending time perfecting the precise movements and technique required to pull of a dance like this:

Your post couldn't be further from the truth. I'd say at least 50% of beginner men are there for the women. Most don't last long. The majority of those dancing for more than a year stick around for the love of the art. There are actually solid psychological and biological reasons why women are attracted to men who can dance.

I just find it cringeworthy. It's like becoming a Ken doll for womankind.

I'm sure it gets you laid, and if you like it, cool. However, most men don't respect it, here at least, if you met a guy who was into salsa dancing you would think "gay" or "metro" or "ladies man". You wouldn't recpect it like you'd respect an athelete. The way their bodies move just looks inherently un-masculine, wiggling hips and so forth. If girls like it, good luck to them, I'd just feel a tool doing it.

On a standard dancefloor I can actually dance pretty well, it's just salsa and stuff like that just....well, if you're spanish and called Zorro, fair enough!

It just seems so romantic.

 

[Fruitbat]

If it's any consolation all the sports I am good at are despised by women, snooker, golf etc. I wish these were considered hot by chicks but the really aren't :-(

 

[BeTheChange]

I just find it cringeworthy. It's like becoming a Ken doll for womankind.

I'm sure it gets you laid, and if you like it, cool. However, most men don't respect it, here at least, if you met a guy who was into salsa dancing you would think "gay" or "metro" or "ladies man". You wouldn't recpect it like you'd respect an athelete. The way their bodies move just looks inherently un-masculine, wiggling hips and so forth. If girls like it, good luck to them, I'd just feel a tool doing it.

On a standard dancefloor I can actually dance pretty well, it's just salsa and stuff like that just....well, if you're spanish and called Zorro, fair enough!

It just seems so romantic.

That's your insecurity then. As far as I know most men in the circles I associate with respect it in a similar fashion to any acquired skill.

I don't get any more respect for going to the gym and having played rugby than I do for salsaing. In fact I'd say I probably get more for the latter.

The fact you seem to care so much about what other people think won't lead to a fulfilled life.

 

[Fruitbat]

That's your insecurity then. As far as I know most men in the circles I associate with respect it in a similar fashion to any acquired skill.

I don't get any more respect for going to the gym and having played rugby than I do for salsaing. In fact I'd say I probably get more for the latter.

The fact you seem to care so much about what other people think won't lead to a fulfilled life.

Touche, I doubt very much you'd be salsa dancing if it wasn't for the pvssy. Ever seen a young lad say "I'd love to be a pro salsa dancer?"

Do what you have to do to bang it, but I guarantee you if it was an all male pastime, you'd be playing rugby.

 

[Fruitbat]

There is some Hot female golfers out there.
Haha.
As far as salsa. To each is own. I respect it but i would only be there for the women. To put that energy in for those reasons is not good for me.
I try and respect anything legal and brings good things to peoples lives. Its the only way i have figured to align with life.
My hobbies are guitar and golf right now and also becomming a better communicator in an expressive way. In person of course because you all nlknow by now my writing skills suck donkey hahaha.
English class was NOT my favorite.

Communication is probably my best skill I just have an issue with work and holding focus/emotional control.

Golf and guitar is a ditto so perhaps we need to form a band or a 2 ball

 

[BeTheChange]

Touche, I doubt very much you'd be salsa dancing if it wasn't for the pvssy. Ever seen a young lad say "I'd love to be a pro salsa dancer?"

Do what you have to do to bang it, but I guarantee you if it was an all male pastime, you'd be playing rugby.

Like I said in my previous post, that's your insecurity. You can only guarantee that if it was an all male pastime you wouldn't be interested. Stop projecting your close-mindedness on to the rest of us.

And if there weren't young lads aspiring to be pro salsa dancers then there wouldn't be any pro salsa dancers...

 

[Von]

Like I said in my previous post, that's your insecurity. You can only guarantee that if it was an all male pastime you wouldn't be interested. Stop projecting your close-mindedness on to the rest of us.

And if there weren't young lads aspiring to be pro salsa dancers then there wouldn't be any pro salsa dancers...

Dancers bang like rabbit

When I started Ballroom (which include salsa and tango), I was like Fruitbat... I thought the figures of ''styling'' the guys would do was ''unmanly''. However, since I didn't come for the women... I progressed as I progressed I got more in the style (and figure), it became easier for me and started feeling more masculine

Think about it: If it looks ''gay'' and the guy those it... he has the confidence... a confidence that he projects in the room and with his partner

As you become better in dancing, you start being a better leader, to guide and lead the woman... the woman enjoy that A LOT MORE than a guy with a lot of ''techniques'' but no leading.

Woman starts asking me to dance more and more... at least 3 times a dance night.

Now, as you progress in dancing... example bachata, tango... the girl basically have her V on your leg and her body thigh on you like a sleeping beauty on your chest in your bed....

It increase sexual tension to a max... add that she's available and having a lot of fun due to your leading and techniques... you'll likely have a date

So yeah, it's a matter of confidence and inner game... the more you have C and IN the stronger you are and the more they come to you without efforts

PS: The Amazing Latin Dance... after what happened between the guy and his female partner... don't you think ALL THE WOMEN in the room wanna try him? They want him... cause he was alpha,fun,fit, talented

There is some Hot female golfers out there.
Haha.
As far as salsa. To each is own. I respect it but i would only be there for the women. To put that energy in for those reasons is not good for me.
I try and respect anything legal and brings good things to peoples lives. Its the only way i have figured to align with life.
My hobbies are guitar and golf right now and also becomming a better communicator in an expressive way. In person of course because you all nlknow by now my writing skills suck donkey hahaha.
English class was NOT my favorite.

Golf has A LOT OF BEAUTIES. I watched 1 month ago a female golf US tournament... most of the girls where young and could easy be on SportIllustrated or Victoria Secret

Guitar and Golf are alot of self work

And it got you to use the short accent in à.

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Yes so glad I got into it. Until last night I still saw myself as a beginner. It's similar to the skinny guy who goes to the gym and puts on muscle but still mentally sees themselves as scrawny because it's the image they've been used to for so long.

Glad I finally broke through. Feels great.

Remember what it took to progress in Salsa, what you learned in how to make it happens

Ex: I used to always ''accelerate'' my steps after a turn and become off beat... I find out because like I do in dancing in my life... I love to rush things...

So the internal values/skills will transcend in your life. Even the confidence

Salsa has the most ''young woman'' and admit ''beauties'' ... dancing is such a great skill to have for confidence and self-improvement (and not just for the W but for Life skills) ... you gotta pick your style

Me it's : Tango, Cha Cha, Walz (vienne waltz too), Swing, Bolero

 

[RichardTheFrog]

You have a strange concept of manhood. How exactly necking a few pints at the pub more intrinsically masculine than spending time perfecting the precise movements and technique required to pull of a dance like this:

Your post couldn't be further from the truth. I'd say at least 50% of beginner men are there for the women. Most don't last long. The majority of those dancing for more than a year stick around for the love of the art. There are actually solid psychological and biological reasons why women are attracted to men who can dance.

What are those psychological and biological reasons?

 

[bnbprodu]

I do salsa dancing as well though I am at the beginner's stage. I've been reading a lot about the salsa social scene and hitting on women is highly discouraged. At first, I thought that the 'hitting on' that gets discouraged is the 'straight-for-the-lay' approach; it is this is the approach that is more frowned upon by the salsa community. Teachers do bang some students; so can DJs that salsa dance.

From my point of view, a charming, good-mannered approach is the one that give you the chance to hit it off with the regulars that attend salsa socials. As you become part of the scene and you behave more like a DJ than an 'alpha male', everything will fall in the right place.

What I've noticed during salsa lessons is that women do get the vibe and signal you're giving them a good time with their body language (smiling, eye contact, proximity, etc). I've only attend these socials only once (but plan on becoming a regular); of course skilled dancers are at advantage over us beginners in terms of dance game, however over time it will get better and - yes - girls go there to meet men as well. I assume a man doesn't have to behave like a dork and everything will follow.

I would like hear your thoughts on that.

 

[Fruitbat]

OK, fair enough guys, if it works for you it works for you.

Let's just say we all have a frame and some of us can carry off this frame. I can't, it isn't for me because my frame is white european sensibleness. I dress like an english gentleman and my vibe is so anti-salsa it would just seem riddiculous doing this. Put me in a suit in a casino and that is where I fit, or in tweed in a local pub. Just not my thing and my apologies if I ripped it.

Again, cultural and personality based and it just isn't me, but good luck to you if being homosexual works for you (kidding)