"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Let's say there's a woman, older than you in this case, who is really beautiful and you do know that she had way too many Alpha males/AFCs going after her trying to do something with her. How could a real DJ be different and make her notice him more that others? Kino, conversations and certainly good looking make some difference but are these enough for a woman like that? Is there anything I could possibly do to make her notice me and understand/make her believe that I am something more than others?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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have a lot of friends ...im not talkin bout options......but friends....ur popular...wanted by others....
 

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worship said:
Be unique.
Yeah, I am asking how to show her that I am unique! :p
 

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Pull your pants down and do a wang dance. That would certainly impress her.

Or you can try this. Imagine that she's your girlfriend and you've slept with her plenty of times, i.e you already have her. How would you act around her?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Yeah certainly it is a good way but as I said she is older than me (5 years) wouldn't it seem a little akward?
 

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20... It's not like she has shown no interest! I actually ask for help cause she has shown some interest... Eye contact and smiling a lot... Asking me in front of others for me and didn't even bother talking to the others...
 

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im confused now...

u said...she has shown interest....eye contact....smiling at you a lot?

u must have her attention there.....

shes talkin bout u infront of others..?
 

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She is my teacher actually in uni or co-teacher w/e! (the educational system here in Greece is different) She did ask where do I live in Athens and how old I am, while in classroom in front of all the other pupils inside and not because no one else was paying attention... She only asked me and then kept going with the lesson... She also had a joke reffering my name in it (she said that I was absent the previous hour though she knew I wasn't cause we were having eye contact) and then smiled at me saying she was just kidding!
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Jitterbug said:
Pull your pants down and do a wang dance. That would certainly impress her.

Or you can try this. Imagine that she's your girlfriend and you've slept with her plenty of times, i.e you already have her. How would you act around her?
Brilliant. I pulled that one last weekend on a chic. Pulled a piece of hair off her shirt. In their little brains that registers subconsciously along the lines of that comfort level when you are with someone.
 

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why change yo strat if it is working for ya?


keep doing what you doin
 

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Cause I just know she has many men running after her. I'm trying to point my self out of all those men in this situation and prove her (make her believe) that though I am younger than her I am different... Wanna make her think I am the catch as I've learned on this forum which is something difficult here cause of the age I guess... I won't stop doing what I'm doing I just want some extra advice like, I don't know! I read about being popular/have many friends around which is easy for me and I will assure she will notice...
 

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How about stop trying so hard and dont give a f*ck.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Just be C&F and joke and smile a lot around her. She will eat it up like a Goblin. I am recently back in contact with my 10 grade Spanish teacher who I feel like I had a special connection with back then..

The friendship we had centered on me being a goof ball and a flirt to her. Smiling a lot and jokingly teasing her. Sometimes stopping by during non-class hours and acting very happy to see her when I saw her between classes.

If while she is teaching you stare at her in the eyes and smile big the whole time she will notice. This is a fine line to walk so just be careful and don;t go overboard.

If you're lukcy like I was she might give you her number to call her at her other job (the grocery store in mine's case lmao).
 

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DonJuanit0 said:
How could a real DJ be different and make her notice him more that others? Kino, conversations and certainly good looking make some difference but are these enough for a woman like that? Is there anything I could possibly do to make her notice me and understand/make her believe that I am something more than others?
You already lost what you don't have.

If you are already talking "DJism" for lack of a better words, you are already down behind the count, judging by the words of your post I can already tell a few things about your "negative mindset":

A) In your mindset you have already made yourself feel unworthy compared to other men.

B) In your mindest you have already placed her on the pedestal.

C) In your mindset you already have oneitis for this woman. Instead of just going for it, you are daydreaming.

D) In your mindset you care too much what people think about you especially this oneitis.
 

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A and B are completely damn I could say, but C and D I'm afraid are real... Since you got those two out of my words do you also have an advice for me or just judgement? I am not aggresive just wanna know...
 

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darkstarrr said:
Brilliant. I pulled that one last weekend on a chic. Pulled a piece of hair off her shirt. In their little brains that registers subconsciously along the lines of that comfort level when you are with someone.

it's one thing knowing this, it's doing it with confidence that's tricky. something i struggle with atm. sometimes i'll think it's too weird because i've only just met her.

what other kind of things can you do to raise the comfort level?

i see guys make women comfortable in the first thirty seconds, yet i can't make a girl i've known for months feel comfortable.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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