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Mail Order Brides?

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meitenesrigas said:
Terrible places. Ugly girls. Dangerous people. Don't do it. Travel to London, Paris, or Rome instead. Date girls that once lived in Former Soviet Union, but now live in America. Just don't go Post-Soviet on me! I repeat: Don't go there.

I love you guys. That is why I had to tell you this. I don't want any of you getting hurt. Stay home and get yourself a big fat loan for a house or something. Go take a seduction course. It will make you a better man than what I have become. That is for sure.
What the hell? Who is this idiot? This has to be the worst piece of advice I have ever heard in my life.

You are not going to be killed when you go on holiday in Eastern Europe fellas. Chances are, you will have one hell of a holiday that will cost you next to nothing. As for the people being ugly? I dont know what to say to this fool. Eastern European, South American, Asian. They are beautiful women. They are way hotter then western women. They dont live on a diet of booze and fast food. Imagine if America had no fat chicks!

There are so many misconceptions about mail order brides. They are not going to kill you. They are not going to leave after they get the green card. In fact, mail order marriages in the USA are more succesful! Over 50% of marriages end in divorce. Mail order brides? 80% success rate OVER TIME I just found it on Wiki!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail-order_bride

Places like Prague, Moscow, Odessa, Kiev, Riga, Tallinn, Bucharest, Sofia, Budapest and St Petersburg are awesome for a holiday. Architechture, food, booze, night life, and amazing beautiful friendly women. I cant believe how ignorant some people are
 

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What the hell? Who is this idiot? This has to be the worst piece of advice I have ever heard in my life.

You are not going to be killed when you go on holiday in Eastern Europe fellas. Chances are, you will have one hell of a holiday that will cost you next to nothing. As for the people being ugly? I dont know what to say to this fool. Eastern European, South American, Asian. They are beautiful women. They are way hotter then western women. They dont live on a diet of booze and fast food. Imagine if America had no fat chicks!

There are so many misconceptions about mail order brides. They are not going to kill you. They are not going to leave after they get the green card. In fact, mail order marriages in the USA are more succesful! Over 50% of marriages end in divorce. Mail order brides? 80% success rate OVER TIME I just found it on Wiki!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mail-order_bride

Places like Prague, Moscow, Odessa, Kiev, Riga, Tallinn, Bucharest, Sofia, Budapest and St Petersburg are awesome for a holiday. Architechture, food, booze, night life, and amazing beautiful friendly women. I cant believe how ignorant some people are
Easy there! I guess the post went a bit over your head. I'm with you. Just was bringing up some of the ignorant comments I hear about the region. A few years ago people thought that the girls didn't shave or take showers/baths.

I still recommend that none of you get drunk when you are in this region. This is the number 1 reason that the British gov't. has warned British guys about Riga, Latvia. Save the heavy drinking for when you are back home depressed.

Skip Prague. Prague is more Westernized than much of Western Europe. You can't even find real Czech girls in town these days. If you like the Czech look I would recommend Slovakia. Bratislava is right by Vienna. I haven't been there (sounds too boring for my tastes), but some guys really like the Slovak girls.

Kyiv is probably one of the best places on earth these days. It is very expensive if you want to maintain a Western quality of life. Virtually no tourists for such a grand city. You will see more $100,000 plus cars on the road than in Miami. Lots of bodyguards, lots of expensive stores, lots of nightlife. The people are also VERY friendly. Great folks. 10 cents for a ride on the super clean and nice metro. Yes, most of the folks don't have much money, but the girls all look like they do. You really must give them credit for still taking pride in how they look, dress, and act. I can help some of you out if you want more information on the area, but it might not be the best place to start. Some of us really should start exchanging information and tips. I have pictures and a ton of notes if anyone cares to learn more. In about a month I will post some videos if you want of Latvia.

Is anyone interested in websites that pertain to the region? Social networking sites, entertainment sites, tv sites, business sites, classifieds, etc? I can post them if you want. You like music videos? Music? Just let me know. I have hundreds of websites that I have saved.

Even if you don't think you can go in the next year or two it is never too early to start planning. At worse, you open your mind up to a very misunderstood part of the world.

You only live once, so why not try something different?
 

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I'd go Eastern Euro 10x before I'd consider a contractually-burdened LTR (married, kids, or over 10 year stint) with a Western woman.
AMEN!

My life plan (hehe) is to slog it out with these power drunk American chicks for another ten years or so, then jump a plane to eastern Europe or the Philippines or somewhere else where the women APPRECIATE men.

Man, every time this topic comes up it depresses me more and more. Makes you realize in America you really ARE wasting a whole bunch of time searching for a needle in a haystack.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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It doesn't have to be that way, but it is. Sometimes I think the best solution is to corrupt and marry an Amish babe.
 

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http://www.draftexpress.com/blog/Pooh-Jeter/
Kyiv reminds me of New York City, because there are nothing but taxis out here, and how the apartments and roads are structured. The women out here are BEAUTIFUL. People drive Range Rovers, Maybachs, Bentleys, Maseratis, and even 1978 pintos. I stay right by TGIF Friday, so you know I be there all the time. They have other American food spots called Arizona, SOHO, New York Steakhouse, Sam’s Steakhouse, and of course Mickey Dees ( McDonalds).
Spot on review by Pooh (as in Winnie!). He has a VERY nice place. At least from the outside it looks tight. Told you guys that black American dudes are accepted by most. Being an American male pays off if you know where to go. He should have added Double Coffee and Kofe Jam to the list. McDonalds in Kyiv is NOT like what is in America. Pooh knows what I mean :D Damn, this dude even writes like me :D I think I found my black twin.
 

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that is interesting about Kyiv

STR8UP said:
My life plan (hehe) is to slog it out with these power drunk American chicks for another ten years or so, then jump a plane to eastern Europe or the Philippines or somewhere else where the women APPRECIATE men.

Man, every time this topic comes up it depresses me more and more. Makes you realize in America you really ARE wasting a whole bunch of time searching for a needle in a haystack.

fwiw, my current gf is one of those 'needles.' She's a hb9 who could have a career based on her looks alone, but she does not want to work or have a career. She has kids, but I don't lift a finger to take care of them. She cooks, cleans, does our laundry, takes care of her kids, and pleases her man. Women like this do exist in this country.
 

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This is just my personal preference, but I like Eastern European or 1st generation from Eastern Europe for my woman. While I do take all, I love the East in that sense, almost to the point of not really liking American girls (I'm American btw)

Came down to it Mail order bride vs. domineering American chick. I'll be waiting for the postman.
 

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I just got back from vacation with the fam. in mexico and I am even more convinced to not date an American girl for a long period of time, or at all if I could avoid it. And def. not marry one. I've dated my fair share of them and they all seem to have a few things in common from the club sluts to the prim and proper girls: Obsessed with materialism and fashion, delusions of becoming famous or being on a reality show that they strongly believe will somehow happen, wanting to drive a big SUV(that they won't pay for), live in a huge house(that they won't pay for), and have little or no concept of loyalty to the guy.

In mexico I met a girl on new years eve(yesterday) who was a little shy at first...but by the end of the night she was calling me her boyfriend and said "I love you!" at least 3 times. Wow. I'm still reeling from the whole experience. And she fed me beer and margaritas all night for free, and fed me pringles on the ride home! haha thats the best part...aside from her being gorgeous and the most delicious woman I have ever hooked up with. But seriously, after "dating" only a handful of foreign or foreign born women(England,Mexico, Colombia), there is no comparison.

It was also funny to see the hot american girls dancing by themselves because the american guys were going for the Mayan women.

I also played pool with some American guys who moved to that part of mexico, and had hot ass younger girlfriends. And I'm talking about older, out of shape guys. I have been thinking about this stuff for awhile and browsed thru nomarriage.com, but to see all of that in first person was something else. I'm sold!
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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**NOTE** Please, no stupid posts about me being a loser, an idiot, or a troll. I took the time to type this out for the few of you who might want to go. If you have further questions just send me a message.



You make too much sense. If I typed that I would get hate messages from losers. Overall, you seem like a reasonable man who is the perfect age to take a year or two off. If you are married or have lots of debt I take all this back. If you are single and don't have many loans you are already on the right track to freedom and the time of your life.

Questions I get from relatives:

Is it safe? Yes and no. If you are a drunk idiot like the British fools in Riga, Latvia you will probably get in big trouble. If you are looking for sex only you will probably get in trouble. If you are looking for a legitimate relationship don't worry. If you are sober and polite your biggest worry will be avoiding crazy drivers and getting sick (health facilities still suck).

Do they hate foreign looking people, Jews, and gays? First off, most areas are very diverse. The Soviet Union was filled with many different cultures. Yes, some people don't particularly like Caucasians (Georgians, Armenians, etc.). You are not one though, so don't worry about it. Jews? I would say that most are not crazy about Jewish people. That might be putting it mildly. Gays? Don't go if you are gay. Gays are hated with a passion by many. If you are gay keep a low profile about it. Some will be fine with it, but it isn't Amsterdam. Blacks? Lots of black basketball players from the USA. The few I have talked to have no problem. If you are black and from Africa I would be scared. Muslims? By the number of Turkish guys with pretty young girls I would say that the girls don't mind.

Is the water safe? No. Don't drink it. Depending where you go it isn't always warm and the water pressure may suck. If you are like me you wll get the runs more than usual.

Do they like Americans? Dumbest freakin' question I hear. The whole world likes Americans as long as you are not a political leader. You can thank rap music and Hollywood for that. In this part of the world American males are on par with Jesus. Did you know that the Lithuanian leader is an American? True. He was an exiled Lithuanian who spent time in the Reagan administration.

Should I smile? Yes, I get this one. Nobody is going to mug you because you smile. Relax.

Are the girls really that pretty? Depends where you are. Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Belarus, Ukraine, and most of Russia are known for their girls. Most Western guys go a bit crazy when they arrive for the first time. You get use to it until you leave. The girls dress to kill. I think that by 13 every girl is dressing to try and get your attention. They have also mastered the art of giving you a look that makes you sweat. Any guy who has been over knows what I am talking about. I still don't know if you are supposed to chase them down or not.

They never had a feminist or sexual revolution either. So they don't have that Western attitude that many of you hate. Are they perfect? Not at all. People are people. Some are jerks. Some are angels. Some are crazy. Some are calm. But they are all people. Do they make better girlfriends, wives, and mothers? Without question. That has to do with the culture they come from. You don't hear of many local men changing diapers or cleaning dishes.

Are they all scammers? I like this one. Many on this forum will scream that they are ALL scammers. That all they want is your money. Of course, these same posters seem to ignore the fact that many American women won't give an average chump the time of day unless he has a certain car, a certain job, or a certain college degree. Once again, people are people. I will say that the normal Post-Soviet girl is not as interested in how you look on the outside as the American girl. They seem to get off more on how you handle yourself than how you look. They definitely don't respect a "modern man" type. Many of the local guys are not exactly winners if you know what I mean. So that helps you out as well.

Do they actually want older guys? For the most part the answer is yes. Just visit any of the regional social networking sites. See who the teenage girls are sending public messages to. They aren't sending them to teenage boys. That is for sure. This has to do with the fact that mature men are revered in their society. Especially mature men who have their s*** together. I am far from being a "mature" man, but if I was I would be in heaven. As it is, I know girls much younger than me who treat me as if I am a child. If you have a baby face you will get that a lot. It doesn't matter how old you are. If you have some grey hair that is a major plus with many girls no matter their age.

Are the girls easy to meet? MMM, yes. Meeting new people is always a hard thing to do for many of us. I would encourage you to do something that will force you to meet locals. Males, females, young, old...doesn't matter. Just get to know people. If they see you are single and they like you they will go out of their way to find you a girl. Seems like everyone knows some pretty young female who would like to meet you. DO NOT GO TO BARS OR DISCOS TO MEET GIRLS. NEVER DO THIS. This is where the scammers and their handlers live. Most girls do not go to these places (even if they have the money) to find boyfriends. This is not the West. If you are stupid and lazy somebody will take advantage of you. Come to think of it, this will happen to you in the West as well.

Good date places? I always get this one. I like the parks (if the weather allows it). The one thing the Soviets did is they created some really nice public parks. Clean, safe, and very beautiful. You can also meet girls in the park. Many go there to have bag lunches with their friends. Other places include Double Coffee (Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Ukraine). Very cool places that are all over. The waitresses speak decent English as well. http://www.doublecoffee.com/ Cili Pizza is a popular place in those same places. People love to spray ketchup over their pizza for some reason. Girls love it and it will remind you of home a little.

One final note...If you go, don't be a DJ. Seriously, just be who you are. Have fun, take notes, pictures, video. If you are an American, be proud of that but also have respect and understanding for the place you are at. If I hear another American idiot tell me how he hates this or that about the place while he has coffee with his 17 year old girlfriend I will go nuts. Peace.
Dont know where to start with this extremely biased crap but this will do
http://www.womenrussia.com/blacklist_summary.htm

secondly are you going to find as much congruence with a girl that comes from a different culture (way of life!) to your own? where common attitudes/views are different to those in your own country. Yes they put alot more effort in, high effort there can often be the difference between having a roof over your head or not though, as someone in this thread posted earlier i think youve failed in life if you need to order a bride or get one from a horribly poor country. Think of the problems it causes guys.
 

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do they have flannel and beef jerky in eastern europe? cuz that could be a deal breaker.
 

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I am sure there are many hot women that live in other countries that want to come here. Instead of mail-ordering them, you should travel to those countries (Eastern Europe, Asia, or South America) and try and meet women while you are there.
Yes I second this wholeheartedly. I met a beautiful spanish girl in mexico on new years, we still email pretty often and after my surgery if shes still down I'm going to go visit her for 4-5 days, its only about a 2 hour flight from where I am in the U.S.

This girl was telling me she loved me the first night, I thought it was because she was drunk, but she says the same thing when we talk. non westernized girls don't make you jump through all the hoops and withhold affection, try to get your ****(well some of them might). If you're masculine than you can come across as you want, and be yourself. She was the third girl I hooked up with in my one week in mexico.

If you find a good one though its about what she can do for you and not the other way around like most girls here. I would have to continue to visit her and get to know her but I am not totally opposed to bringing her back here. I have never felt even close to wanting to marry someone but if I had to pick one girl of all those I've dated since I was a kid I would pick her.

BB can you give some more info on your relationship, do you think it didn't work out due to citizenship issues or just normal marriage problems? I think its pretty cool that you have experienced that though in your life although it didnt work out.
 

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My life plan (hehe) is to slog it out with these power drunk American chicks for another ten years or so
HAHA that made me lol. You never look at those "power drunk american chicks" the same way after meeting some great non western women.

Meitenas great post by the way, very informative.
 

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Yes I second this wholeheartedly. I met a beautiful spanish girl in mexico on new years, we still email pretty often and after my surgery if shes still down I'm going to go visit her for 4-5 days, its only about a 2 hour flight from where I am in the U.S.
What's a Spaniard doing living in Mexico?
 

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I should clarify, a mexican girl of spanish descent as opposed to indiginous mayan descent. Tall, fair skin, big boobs! They look very different from indian descent but the mestizo girls can still be hot.
 

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Mexicans are largely devout Catholics who believe divorce to be forbidden. The typical marriage involves the woman getting fat, the guy cheating, and the woman forgiving him because she won't get divorced.
 

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Mexicans are largely devout Catholics who believe divorce to be forbidden. The typical marriage involves the woman getting fat, the guy cheating, and the woman forgiving him because she won't get divorced.
does mexican tradition allow you to eat your wife? i mean most mexicans i see on tv are broke as a joke, and her flabby gut alone could save a few weeks of groceries.
 

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You are not ordering a bride. The legitimate agencies simply match you up with girls. No different than match.com. Only difference is that the girl is usually young enough to be your daugther, pretty, and cultured. A whole lot of university students try it. This is why people think the girls are scammers. Most westerners can't believe that a pretty young thing would want to grab a bite to eat with them.

The main scams involve the intended girl never receiving your messages. Someone else simply writes fake letters to you and bilks you for some cash. You never actually see the girl in person. That is rare, but when it happens you read about it. What you don't read about it is when the guy meets the girl, dates her a few times, and ends up calling things off because he is afraid he isn't good enough for her.

Don't do it unless you are open minded to a new culture, new language, and a new way of life. Few people are that open minded. She isn't a robot.
 
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