amnbyrd
Don Juan
I was bored and did a search on mail order brides-and theres a sh!t load of sites for them?
Anyone know how this works?
Is it legit??
lol
Anyone know how this works?
Is it legit??
lol
Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."
You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.
She's been waiting forty minutes.
Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
I'm guessing that many of those sites -- if not most -- are scams. If you're serious about using a marriage agency, you should do everything you can (like vetting it online, getting references) before giving them any of your money.amnbyrd said:I was bored and did a search on mail order brides-and theres a sh!t load of sites for them?
Anyone know how this works?
Is it legit??
lol
speakeasy said:Isn't buying a mail-order bride about as non-DJ as you could possibly get?
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
Are you serious? So how exactly does it work? How much does it go for?Bible_Belt said:I met my mail-order bride at college. Any university will have many young women who are here on a temporary student visa.
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
yep...a lot of them will "love" you until the green card comes...when it does their attitude changes and they leave...i have a distant cousin who threatens to leave her AFC husband all the time...saying now that she has her green card, she doesn't care...amnbyrd said:so these women pretty much will marry anyone just to try and gain U.S. citizenship? Then after that they'll most likely bail?
fuzzx said:Well whatever..... www.nomarriage.com
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
You make too much sense. If I typed that I would get hate messages from losers. Overall, you seem like a reasonable man who is the perfect age to take a year or two off. If you are married or have lots of debt I take all this back. If you are single and don't have many loans you are already on the right track to freedom and the time of your life.CGE333 said:I am sure there are many hot women that live in other countries that want to come here. Instead of mail-ordering them, you should travel to those countries (Eastern Europe, Asia, or South America) and try and meet women while you are there.
great postmeitenesrigas said:**NOTE** Please, no stupid posts about me being a loser, an idiot, or a troll. I took the time to type this out for the few of you who might want to go. If you have further questions just send me a message.
You make too much sense. If I typed that I would get hate messages from losers. Overall, you seem like a reasonable man who is the perfect age to take a year or two off. If you are married or have lots of debt I take all this back. If you are single and don't have many loans you are already on the right track to freedom and the time of your life.
Questions I get from relatives:
Is it safe? Yes and no. If you are a drunk idiot like the British fools in Riga, Latvia you will probably get in big trouble. If you are looking for sex only you will probably get in trouble. If you are looking for a legitimate relationship don't worry. If you are sober and polite your biggest worry will be avoiding crazy drivers and getting sick (health facilities still suck).
Do they hate foreign looking people, Jews, and gays? First off, most areas are very diverse. The Soviet Union was filled with many different cultures. Yes, some people don't particularly like Caucasians (Georgians, Armenians, etc.). You are not one though, so don't worry about it. Jews? I would say that most are not crazy about Jewish people. That might be putting it mildly. Gays? Don't go if you are gay. Gays are hated with a passion by many. If you are gay keep a low profile about it. Some will be fine with it, but it isn't Amsterdam. Blacks? Lots of black basketball players from the USA. The few I have talked to have no problem. If you are black and from Africa I would be scared. Muslims? By the number of Turkish guys with pretty young girls I would say that the girls don't mind.
Is the water safe? No. Don't drink it. Depending where you go it isn't always warm and the water pressure may suck. If you are like me you wll get the runs more than usual.
Do they like Americans? Dumbest freakin' question I hear. The whole world likes Americans as long as you are not a political leader. You can thank rap music and Hollywood for that. In this part of the world American males are on par with Jesus. Did you know that the Lithuanian leader is an American? True. He was an exiled Lithuanian who spent time in the Reagan administration.
Should I smile? Yes, I get this one. Nobody is going to mug you because you smile. Relax.
Are the girls really that pretty? Depends where you are. Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Belarus, Ukraine, and most of Russia are known for their girls. Most Western guys go a bit crazy when they arrive for the first time. You get use to it until you leave. The girls dress to kill. I think that by 13 every girl is dressing to try and get your attention. They have also mastered the art of giving you a look that makes you sweat. Any guy who has been over knows what I am talking about. I still don't know if you are supposed to chase them down or not.
They never had a feminist or sexual revolution either. So they don't have that Western attitude that many of you hate. Are they perfect? Not at all. People are people. Some are jerks. Some are angels. Some are crazy. Some are calm. But they are all people. Do they make better girlfriends, wives, and mothers? Without question. That has to do with the culture they come from. You don't hear of many local men changing diapers or cleaning dishes.
Are they all scammers? I like this one. Many on this forum will scream that they are ALL scammers. That all they want is your money. Of course, these same posters seem to ignore the fact that many American women won't give an average chump the time of day unless he has a certain car, a certain job, or a certain college degree. Once again, people are people. I will say that the normal Post-Soviet girl is not as interested in how you look on the outside as the American girl. They seem to get off more on how you handle yourself than how you look. They definitely don't respect a "modern man" type. Many of the local guys are not exactly winners if you know what I mean. So that helps you out as well.
Do they actually want older guys? For the most part the answer is yes. Just visit any of the regional social networking sites. See who the teenage girls are sending public messages to. They aren't sending them to teenage boys. That is for sure. This has to do with the fact that mature men are revered in their society. Especially mature men who have their s*** together. I am far from being a "mature" man, but if I was I would be in heaven. As it is, I know girls much younger than me who treat me as if I am a child. If you have a baby face you will get that a lot. It doesn't matter how old you are. If you have some grey hair that is a major plus with many girls no matter their age.
Are the girls easy to meet? MMM, yes. Meeting new people is always a hard thing to do for many of us. I would encourage you to do something that will force you to meet locals. Males, females, young, old...doesn't matter. Just get to know people. If they see you are single and they like you they will go out of their way to find you a girl. Seems like everyone knows some pretty young female who would like to meet you. DO NOT GO TO BARS OR DISCOS TO MEET GIRLS. NEVER DO THIS. This is where the scammers and their handlers live. Most girls do not go to these places (even if they have the money) to find boyfriends. This is not the West. If you are stupid and lazy somebody will take advantage of you. Come to think of it, this will happen to you in the West as well.
Good date places? I always get this one. I like the parks (if the weather allows it). The one thing the Soviets did is they created some really nice public parks. Clean, safe, and very beautiful. You can also meet girls in the park. Many go there to have bag lunches with their friends. Other places include Double Coffee (Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Ukraine). Very cool places that are all over. The waitresses speak decent English as well. http://www.doublecoffee.com/ Cili Pizza is a popular place in those same places. People love to spray ketchup over their pizza for some reason. Girls love it and it will remind you of home a little.
One final note...If you go, don't be a DJ. Seriously, just be who you are. Have fun, take notes, pictures, video. If you are an American, be proud of that but also have respect and understanding for the place you are at. If I hear another American idiot tell me how he hates this or that about the place while he has coffee with his 17 year old girlfriend I will go nuts. Peace.
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.