"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Made out with girl--need kissing tips

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Hi all...

Just got back from a date--I made out with the girl and was necking with her, and it was on the first date. I realize some of you can bed a girl on a first date, but for me it is a good accomplishment--Plus i'll probably bed her in a couple days from how this looks now. Most of my game seems pretty good, but I never realized that I need help with my kissing skills, even though I dont think she cared. Would love some tips from some of you experts.

-Leo
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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aussiegoat55

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Be sure to lead.

This is essential, one word: Variety.

Hard/gentle, fast, passionate, slow, use tongue, go left, go right.

I mean, look at how other people kiss.

Do a google search on kissing mistakes then try not to make those mistakes (sloppy, too wet, weak, food, onions)

Otherwise, don't sweat it, and practice makes perfect, or damn near close to perfect.
 

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For a first time, i shoot for gentle but not timid. Think and convey confidence in your eyes; that you are in control. Think in your mind that you are consuming her, and she will sense that. Sometimes a brief suck on one lip, instead of dead center has a nice effect; a brief (gentle) suck on her lower lip will pull off a nice effect.

Obviously as the heat of the event rises, you can (and should) raise your intensity.

Treat her like your car - don't rev to 6K rpm right when you turn the car on. That movie scene where you tear your clothes off and bang her almost instantly sometimes is appropriate, but not usually. Mainly because "confidence" is better conveyed with patience.
 

bachelor

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Kiss test... Kiss her neck then when you kiss her use your lips first and no tounge... Play like that for a lil then use some tounge... The key is switching it up and keeping it stimulating.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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bachelor said:
Kiss test... Kiss her neck then when you kiss her use your lips first and no tounge... Play like that for a lil then use some tounge... The key is switching it up and keeping it stimulating.
That is one thing I agree with from bachelor you never use tongue first. To start of with you want to be very soft and gentle. As you get into it you star building up more passion. Your hands are very important, to start with you want to place your hand on the side of her neck and gently stroke. As you get more into it you want to run your hands through her hair. Also consider putting your hand on the back of her head and pulling her in a little.

Her ears, neck, hair, cheeks are all erogenous zones you want to pay attention to them. Also break away from the lip every now and then and kiss her neck, nibble her ear, kiss her cheek, bite her lip. You can even go down to the collar bone and shoulder kiss and but around that area.

Just make sure you keep your hands moving.

A great trick is while you are kissing her pull the shoulder part of her shirt, dress a little but to the side exposing her shoulder. Kiss and bite that area very briefly and then pull the shirt or dress back over that area.
 

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NickBe said:
A great trick is while you are kissing her pull the shoulder part of her shirt, dress a little but to the side exposing her shoulder. Kiss and bite that area very briefly and then pull the shirt or dress back over that area.
Good tip!
 

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I like to hold back just a bit, before giving a really nice, soft, kiss. It drives them crazy when you vary the tempo.
 

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All according to the above posts, and then spice it up by teasing her a bit:

Kiss her, then just touch her lips with yours and pull away, look her in the eyes and smile a little, tease her and make her have to lean in and go after you to get her kiss.

I promise that it will make her go crazy!
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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...lots of words said on this subject...

Remember to breath.. And breath through your nose only.

if its a first kiss, then keep those lips soft and nearly teasing as you kiss her. Find enjoyment yet control, should feel good for her that way.
 

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when necking her just suck on that and nibble it until she starts grabbing in ecstacy, like a piece of tenderloin steak, you want to squeeze the suculant juice. or a hyena prowling on a fresh carcass, pausing to take an occasional bite from the flesh............
 
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