"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Mack Tactics Vrs Being Nice

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A NICE GUY WALKS UP TO SOME CHICS IN A BAR AND SAYS..........

"Hello ladies, how are you this evening, is everything okay"....in a cheery, polite way.

MACK DADDY/BALLER SAYS...........

"Where all my Hoes at, hey wat up B itches"......in a playful/****y way.

Nice guy approaches a two set and after some comfortable conversation and an IOI(indicators of interest) offers to buy a few drinks, asks one of them if it would be okay if he called her sometime.......she hesitates then polietly says no, he quickly says "well nice meeting you" and exists.

THE MACK rolls up on a pair of super hotties and quickly begins his game. He then hits one of ladies up for her digits.......she hesitates and politely says she doesn't usually give out her number......and before she even finishes he interupts and says "well then lemme talk with your friend here" and re-starts his game again without any hesitation.

The nice guy is thinking maybe she has a boyfriend, or I must have done something wrong, maybe I was not good looking enough, I got no game, I need more confidence, a better opener, I hate rejection,etc.

The mack (even if he did not get their numbers) automatically assumes the problem exists with the women, they were probably B itches any way, then Seeks out his next target.

Nice guys often use the enticement of buying drinks in hopes to win attraction points to assit with his game....sort of like a liquid wingman.

The Mack thanks the nice guy for getting the women all liquored up and swoops right in for the kill as he knows half his work is already been done for him. Slightly buzzed may lead to sex!.

Things they both have in common is that they need to tweak their game even tighter, slow down a bit to see favorable results, don't be in such a rush...thats where the comparison ends though.

Why is it that the majority of african americans think they are players, even if they ain't women still perceive them that way? ANSWER is 2 parts:

1)AVITAR-they look the part (dressed well, latest fashion, maybe some bling, their whip (car/ride) is fly, they have their gear on when theys clubbin'.

2) ATTITUDE-the relaxed who gives a flying f--k what you think mentality penetrates their very existance. Smooth, just say whats on your mind without any hesitation conversation, entices quick successfully.

The next time you do an approach strive to be the mack and witness the transformation for yourself.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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COD said:
A NICE GUY WALKS UP TO SOME CHICS IN A BAR AND SAYS..........

"Hello ladies, how are you this evening, is everything okay"....in a cheery, polite way.

MACK DADDY/BALLER SAYS...........

"Where all my Hoes at, hey wat up B itches"......in a playful/****y way.

Nice guy approaches a two set and after some comfortable conversation and an IOI(indicators of interest) asks one of them if it would be okay if he called her sometime.......she hesitates then polietly says no, he quickly says "well nice meeting you" and exists.

THE MACK rolls up on a pair of super hotties and quickly begins his game. He then hits one of ladies up for her digits.......she hesitates and politely says she doesn't usually give out her number......and before she even finishes he interupts and says "well then lemme talk with your friend here" and re-starts his game again without any hesitation.

The nice guy is thinking maybe she has a boyfriend, or I must have done something wrong, maybe I was not good looking enough, I got no game, I need more confidence, a better opener, I hate rejection,etc.

The mack (even if he did not get their numbers) automatically assumes the problem exists with the women, they were probably B itches any way, then Seeks out his next target.

Things they both have in common is that they need to tweak their game even tighter, slow down a bit to see favorable results, don't be in such a rush...thats where the comparison ends though.

Why is it that the majority of african americans think they are players, even if they ain't women still perceive them that way? ANSWER is 2 parts:

1)AVITAR-they look the part (dressed well, latest fashion, maybe some bling, their whip (car/ride) is fly, they have their gear on when theys clubbin'.

2) ATTITUDE-the relaxed who gives a flying f--k what you think mentality penetrates their very existance. Smooth, just say whats on your mind without any hesitation conversation, entices quick successfully.

The next time you do an approach strive to be the mack and witness the transformation for yourself.
There's a flaw in your logic though. If the mack assumes it's always the problem with the woman, he doesn't learn from his mistakes. Learning and evolving is one of the things that separates those comfortable and successful with pickups from the AFCs. It's the reason field experience is so important.
 

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did U not read the part where I SAID things they have in common (tighter game, slow down, move on to someone else, be comfortable with rejection) etc.

STOPING TO THINK "HOW hey can I improve my game", does nothing for you while you are in the moment. Macks don't over evaluate stuff, they don't memorize routines, pickup lines.........dude go hang out with a few black men and watch how they approach. And you don't neccessarily have to be black to be a mack either.

The thinking its the womens problem or projecting the blame onto others is framing it instead of internalizing the error..........HE KNOWS HE MESSED UP......BUT he continues on without ever skipping a beat. He never gives failure the chance to cloud his game.

Denial is not the best course of action but I think the lesson here is strive to be the mack instead of the other nice guy.

I spent quite a few nights out with my African American friends and every single one of them thought they were the bomb, they don't waste anytime with research or how can I improve myself retrospection......they just do. To them rejection is meaningless they just move on.

I am sure in an ideal world one might want to apply some sort of self improvement...........but exposure, trial and error, just being in the realm speaks volumes that no text book, message board, boot camp or self proclaimed PU artist can ever measure up to. ON HANDS EXPERIENCE IN THE FIELD is the quickest way to learn those skills and become comfortable sargin'
 

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I am OSAMMA Borokobamma and I approve of the message..........cause I am a mack too!!!
 

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think of it like this simple example.

A mack wears a ball cap backwards or slanted on the side.........the cap was NOT designed to be worn in such a manner, it definetly does not keep the sun out of his eyes, it aint comfortable, the logo is out of the line of sight, therefore one must conclude wearing said cap in an inappropriate manner is just plain foolish right...........WRONG!!!!

It basically dictates your approach towards life, sense of style and even your own comfort level about change. Deviating from the expectations of others closely resembles being a trendsetter (back in the day they referred to this as rebellion). Now-a-days wearing the hat at differnt angles, ways, positions speaks volumes about your character. It personifies the very essence of being ultra cool while exuding a bit of a badboy. In fact, your preceived as non-compliant goody two shoes if you wear your hat straight.

Are you feelin' me dawg.........reverse the cap and walk the walk.....be da mack.....nuff said, no go on with yr bad MF self.........heck might as well throw in a pimp kane while your at it............Hallowscream aint that far away.............JUST KIDDING!
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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COD said:
did U not read the part where I SAID things they have in common (tighter game, slow down, move on to someone else, be comfortable with rejection) etc.

STOPING TO THINK "HOW hey can I improve my game", does nothing for you while you are in the moment. Macks don't over evaluate stuff, they don't memorize routines, pickup lines.........dude go hang out with a few black men and watch how they approach. And you don't neccessarily have to be black to be a mack either.

The thinking its the womens problem or projecting the blame onto others is framing it instead of internalizing the error..........HE KNOWS HE MESSED UP......BUT he continues on without ever skipping a beat. He never gives failure the chance to cloud his game.

Denial is not the best course of action but I think the lesson here is strive to be the mack instead of the other nice guy.

I spent quite a few nights out with my African American friends and every single one of them thought they were the bomb, they don't waste anytime with research or how can I improve myself retrospection......they just do. To them rejection is meaningless they just move on.

I am sure in an ideal world one might want to apply some sort of self improvement...........but exposure, trial and error, just being in the realm speaks volumes that no text book, message board, boot camp or self proclaimed PU artist can ever measure up to. ON HANDS EXPERIENCE IN THE FIELD is the quickest way to learn those skills and become comfortable sargin'
I learned 90% of what I know about pickups from a black guy. I went through more girls in a year than I thought possible while I had a 'brutha' as a wingman. He always told me to just do what I want to, and gave advice to fit. Never once did I call a woman a 'hoe' to start up a conversation, or tip a cap to show I was 'badass'. Never once did I need to in order to start a pickup or end one.

Did I say analyze in the moment?

Field experience isn't everything. Ever heard of the phrase 'practice makes perfect'? Well it doesn't. Perfect practice makes perfect. And the only way to do that is to know what you screwed up on and fix it. Experience is nothing if you don't learn from it to benefit yourself. Doing that does not make you an AFC. Thinking because you failed there is nothing you can do makes you an AFC. Wallowing in rejection is AFC. Realizing you can change, becoming better and adapting, is much of what this site advocates. This is nothing in life worth doing that you can just blindly do over and over again and magically get better at. Especially with something as complicated as social interaction, it NEEDS internalization at some point in order to become better.

I don't aim to be a mack. Many 'macks' are putting on a fake attitude. I don't want to tilt my cap like everyone else. I don't want to have a 'fly whip' like everyone else. The first time I go peacocking around like that I'm going to end myself right there. I also refuse to believe tipping a cap defines who I am.

I live right on the edge of the ghetto. I see plenty of 'macks' sagging their pants, tipping their caps, swaggering around and shouting at each other. I also see the chicken heads they hang with and know better.

There is ALWAYS room for self improvement. When all you have to compete against is yourself, you find ways to up your tactics easily, and it's not by reading a message board. Being comfortable with rejection leads to complacency. If no one was afraid of failing no one would improve. It's being SCARED of failure that separates the losers from the winners.
 

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some chickadeez dig the bad boy image. myself i sometimes rock a wife beater inside out with the tag flappin in the wind tattoos showing muscles pumped hat ****ed shows that u are ****y and aka confident/ arrogant. *****es dont know the difference untill there older than the bad boy appeal fades. it all depends on the woman your aim ing your guns at


my own quote. women are the only creatures on the planet that bleed for 5 of 30 days a month and still lives.
 

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TOO MUCH TIME thinking is not the answer..........sheesh dude engineers think of some great stuff.........IN THEORY...........in the real world TONS OF KINKS MANIFEST THEMSELVES. THE ONLY WAY TO TEST RUN NEW MATERIAL IS LIVE IN THE FIELD.

I AM SORRY but I strongly disagree that running back and re-inventing, rethinking an new game plan will produce a better success outcome. You gotta be able to think on the fly, make adjustments right then and there, use what you got.

hindsight is a wonderful thing..............but there are just way too many variables that could taint your success, the least of which is your approach.

I am NOT advocating using profanity in hopes to win you points, what I am saying is one could say ANYTHING AND I DO MEAN ANYTHING AND STILL REAP TANGIBLE RESULTS.........again contingent on numerous conditions.

Certain un-tangible conditions produce negative results. I could say an opener and get rejected, another guy could say the exact same opener, the exact same way to the exact same girl AND SEE SUCCESS.

RE-READ WHAT A NICE GUY TYPICALLY DOES.........re-read what the MACK does. Not every single method is going to be congruent with everyone........thats why we have this forum to introduce DIFFERNT APPROACHES.

THEORETICALLY ANYTHING COULD WORK..........its your right to choose or not choose which method you incorporate.

Wether that be tilting a hat, sporting shades or draggin your pants...........in all honesty this stuff should not work.......yet some women adore the baller/gangsta mentality.........I see it time and time again.

Ever see how many self help books there are.....................how many pick up books..........now compare that to how many of those are written by African Americans that are successful.

They spend less time in the lab and more time chasing tail........real life..........heck anyone can produce something that should work............til they test it in the field.

We don't just abandone something the moment something does not go as planned........and we cant always run home to re-evaluate.

CHANGE BEGINS THE INSTANT YOU REACT TO SOMETHING.

"now wears my gangsta durag"...............theres some Hoe's in da house...later mates
 

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facing your fears is PARAMOUNT to any progress. Saying I am not affraid anymore is plain ridiculous..........its conditioning that makes you less affraid, makes you reframe how your mind reacts to fear.

I disagree doing stuff over and over again DOES make you more comfortable with anything. Its the learning curve, once we are comfortable that rejection is OKAY.........then and only then can we evolve.

I HATE TO TELL YA.........but there are times when you can DO EVERYTHING RIGHT.........and still be wrong!. Trying to perfect the ultimate flawless approach may be admirable but to what end.

perfect practice which is A regurgitated cliche` is not very practicle. WHo determines you are practicing perfect........there comes a time in every persons life where constant improvement becomes NIT PICKY AND IRRITATING. SOMETHINGS THINGS ARE BEST LEFT ALONE..............wasting time trying to build a better wheel may lead to life passing you by.

AM I SAYING NOT IMPROVE............NO I AM SAYING every rejection is a step closer to success. The less affraid one becomes the more one understands that sometimes IT IS A NUMBERS GAME.

JUST cause I embrace rejection does not mean I have become complacent.....just means I am not willing to expend the energy trying to win my next conquest over......when the next chic is JUST AS HOT AND PUTS UP LESS RESISTANCE.......using the EXACT SAME TRIED AND TRUE LINE.

WHO cares if I can RE-EVALUATE A BETTER METHOD..........again no two women are alike.........I used a crappy line and it worked on some chics....got me laid, etc...........you want to be the best more power to you, God speed.

AS you get older.........someone younger, hotter and smarter will think your method is whack. Lead the pack or follow the mack..........who cares which method you choose..........just git er done.
 

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I think some people are getting the wrong message of what a "mack" is through tv... I mean this by going up to women and calling them b!tches and all that. You may have a smile on your face and just trying to be funny. But, I have tested that type of approach on women. Sometimes it works and other times it doesn't. Most of the time they get offended even though your joking around.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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