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Lying about your age

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So I'm 27 about to be 28 in 2 days, but I'm still very attracted to the 18-22 year old females. Females always think I'm younger than my age, they guess 24 usually so when I go after the younger ones, I like to tell them I'm 23 or 24. Do any of you guys do that, and do you feel its the right move rather than telling a 19 year old that you're 28.
 

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When you are 35+ come back here again to ask that question.It´s perfectly normal and it is the expected thing that a guy your age would hit on 18-22 girls...
 

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Im 25 and I tell 28 - 35 year olds that Im 28 and I tell 18 - 20 year olds that Im 22. Obviously anyone 21 - 27 I tell the truth too.
 

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Be true to yourself.
Just say your age, its only a number, if someone rejects you because of it either challenge whatever assumption they have or move on :)
 

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Lying about my age has always backfired on me.

Think about this: If you lie about your age, you are doing a subtle monkey dance to please a women. You are saying to her and more importantly, to yourself, that "I'm not good enough the way I am". You are like a piece of clay being pressed into the shape of her expectations.

You are not clay, but a rock. Whatever your age is, be proud to declare it. With age comes wisdom and a man should always recognize that value within himself.

Lying about your age somehow diminishes you slightly, I have found. It's not good to carry around little lies. The weight seems insignificant, but it affects you in subtle ways.
 

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Atom Smasher said:
Lying about my age has always backfired on me.

Think about this: If you lie about your age, you are doing a subtle monkey dance to please a women. You are saying to her and more importantly, to yourself, that "I'm not good enough the way I am". You are like a piece of clay being pressed into the shape of her expectations.

You are not clay, but a rock. Whatever your age is, be proud to declare it. With age comes wisdom and a man should always recognize that value within himself.

Lying about your age somehow diminishes you slightly, I have found. It's not good to carry around little lies. The weight seems insignificant, but it affects you in subtle ways.
This logic applies to men seeing relationships or when tuning a respectable girlfriend material type. When your only goal is to get laid then claiming you're 24 when you're really 28 is all good. A few dates later you're in and so what, did you lose self-worth because you chose to be a few years younger to increase your chances of getting laid.

If you're faking your age because of mid life crisis issues or because you're being a creep then that's different. A 27 year old pretending hes 20 to lay a 16 year old is wrong.
 

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I had the same problem with a girl with which I had a date recently, Im 27 and she is 21, actually the difference its not that big but nowadays you never know what runs on a girl mind.

I found myself in doubt so when she asked I just said that I was 50 but my wife says I look no more than 40...then right after the laughting I rapidly changed topic.

Atom has a point, if you hide or manipulate anything about you to improve your chances you are subtly communication a discomfort in yourself or the situation which is what you dont wanna do in case you want to make it work with that girl.

At the same time For_f has a point as well, if your intention are getting a one night stand you have to maximise your chances in the short term so lying to eliminate a possible obstacle in that moment sounds the best thing to do.

Sure the way you frame the age difference matters and your social skills with which you can sell such frame matter but nowadays girls are way too picky and rarely let things pass so you have to play your game as well.
 

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18 is a little creepy. Stick to drinking age and older. 18 year olds basically have a 12 year old brain
 

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I like older women, so I tell them I'm in my 40's. It's helped me quite often. Oh yes, I can be a corrupt judge, but whatever gets a woman into chambers without being a captain save a ho. And then they find out just how hard of a judge I am. :D

How often do women lie to men? Mull that one over.

Lie for sex, relationships, don't.
 

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rum said:
18 is a little creepy. Stick to drinking age and older. 18 year olds basically have a 12 year old brain
What are you a faggot?

I say if there's grass on the field....play ball! :crackup:
 

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i've done it a couple times for ONS's. It worked. :D
Not sure if i even needed to lie but why risk it for a quick bang?
 

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Burroughs said:
What are you a faggot?

I say if there's grass on the field....play ball! :crackup:
ugh...there's a difference between A Ball and the Big Leagues you do know that right?

If you're 28 and with an 18 year old. I'm sorry, but that's dangerously close to weirdo territory.
 

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It's never been a problem for me in either direction. At 28, I've banged 20 year olds and a couple women in their 30s, as well as had propositions from 40s+ women.

Nothing weird about 18 girl, 28 guy. Most 18 year olds would gladly give it up to an attractive celebrity with little concern for age. As you get older you do need to have more things going for you, but that's a natural progression.
 

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For_F said:
A few dates later you're in and so what, did you lose self-worth because you chose to be a few years younger to increase your chances of getting laid.
Yes. Erosion is rarely visible because of the tiny increments but I observe that lying to get laid tends to create tendencies that are hard to get rid of as one matures. I used to think my little lies were harmless until the effects became visible as I matured. I had to go through a period where I needed to purge my habitual lying because it had gotten out of hand, and we all know that changing habits always involves pain.

For me, it's best to be above-board with factual things like age. But then that's easy for me to say since I look like I'm 35 or so.
 

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It's funny... once about 15 years ago I was at a BBQ and a woman asked me my age. I hesitated, and I could see that she lost respect for me.

I would have had that one in the bag had I just answered directly or else turned it around on her.
 

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For_F said:
This logic applies to men seeing relationships or when tuning a respectable girlfriend material type. When your only goal is to get laid then claiming you're 24 when you're really 28 is all good. A few dates later you're in and so what, did you lose self-worth because you chose to be a few years younger to increase your chances of getting laid.

If you're faking your age because of mid life crisis issues or because you're being a creep then that's different. A 27 year old pretending hes 20 to lay a 16 year old is wrong.
Hell yeah you lost self worth. Because you thought so lowly of yourself that you figured it was necessary to lie just to get some broad in bed. And reality is, whether 24 or 28, the girl would probably still f**k you. If the girl is wet for you, it's because of your game, not the number 24.

There will always be women who will find stupid reasons to not date you. There aren't enough lies in the universe to keep yourself ahead of that. Might as well not lie about weird sh!t that will likely have no bearing on how she feels about you.
 

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We really should not be answering questions on morality. Because depending on the advice you give him, you are somewhat changing his personality. If you want to lie to get laid, then go for it. But, if lying about a number is that bothersome to you that you will get on the forums to ask for our permission to do so, then you probably shouldn't.
 

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but its ok for a 40 hit nail with a 25?

really the age deal is only on your head dude, also is far more easyer a old guys get something witha younger girl, the reverse happens too but tell me what is more easy to see?/ my parents age diference is 14 year from each other with over 30 years of marriage.

but here is the deal if a girl/woman will judge you by your age then you can kick her out because she is not into you, or are too stupid, you can also play it like , is not polite to ask people age (its the same with woman no?).
 

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Fly By Night said:
We really should not be answering questions on morality. Because depending on the advice you give him, you are somewhat changing his personality. If you want to lie to get laid, then go for it. But, if lying about a number is that bothersome to you that you will get on the forums to ask for our permission to do so, then you probably shouldn't.
We're not advising him about "morality", but rather about what lying does to a man internally. There is a difference. However, I have no problem stating my ideas about morality when and where appropriate, because that is a part of life.

I don't think we can change a man's personality by giving him requested advice.
 

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I agree with Atom Smasher's take on this. Be proud of who your are. Lying about your age to please a girl is just supplicating to her. If you have solid inner game, why would you have to misreprent yourself? That's giving her the frame. She's lucky to get a chance with you, she should be trying to impress you, not the other way around. You're the prize.

Also, I can't be bothered to lie about my age, because then I'll have to remember how old I'm supposed to be. I've never been rejected because of my age before, so why should I care?

That said, I know some guys are compulsive liars, and they will lie to women all the time. It's not my style, but I have seen guys work that sort of thing successfully.

But if I, at 52, would not be afraid to tell a young girl my age, why should a 28 year old? It really is laughable.
 

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That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

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