"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

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Lying about age

Marcopolo

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How many people here lie about age to get younger chicks, especially off the internet. I notice that 35 seems to be a major cutoff age, and I am about to turn that. I have entertained the thought about making myself "younger" by a year or two when I meet women(online or off). I have been told that it is pretty standard for people to do that on sites like Match(true or not, I dunno). I look a little younger so I can get away with it. Only problem is I am aslo looking for something long term, and if I lie to get laid and end up wanting to keep her, she will find out sooner or later and probably be pissed. Anyone ever done this or thought about it?
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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tough decision

its lose-lose situation cause lying even about this can be viewed as unreliable by the LTR

if you lie about this; you'll be able to lie about anything, right ?

it is one major drawback of online-dating; there are so many profiles, so you tend to limit yourself stead of broadening horizonts

/ scordate
 

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well when your 35, 18-21 year old's should be a big no-no because of their immaturity surely!!,

anyone i know above 23 would consider dating and having an LTR with anyone over 35, as i've once said, my uncle who is 43 has a wife the same age as me (26),

fair enough, the girl might be a bit rough, but it shows it can happen,

Ste.
 

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I stuggled with this one myself beause I LOVE the little girls (18-22)

Bottom line after David Ds Advanced series and the Master's program is that it's all attitude. Sort of like: I'm 33 and I like young girls and I can make them feel so good they'd be nuts not to want me. If they think I'm too old their immaturity is preventing them from having the best sex they'll ever have with an awesome guy. If they are't intersested it's THEIR loss not yours. You shouldn't be lying to get them to accept you. Who's the catch you or them?

If you hide your age you are being incongruent and insecure. That will kill you. And if she finds out you will look weak.

gix
 

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I've been married for 9 years, but I have single buddies the same age as me getting after it with mid 20s girls. Not one I know lies about his age. I think it really comes down to how old you look though. I have friends that never take care of themselves, smoke a lot, or only occasionally hit the gym and at 33 look older than myself.

Take care of yourself well enough and you can turn age to a disticnt advantage.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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Usually the younger ones that will date older men are more mature than their counterparts that won't. I wouldn't worry about it because there are plenty of young women that will date older men.
 

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When i was 26 I got involved w/ a chick that was 19. Weird situation. Anyway it was a fvcking nightmare. Only for a breif time though b/c I ended it.

The point: Girls in their teens and early twenties are stupid. They haven't EVER dealt w/ a real man yet so they have never been burned. Never heard NO. Never been put in their place. Girls that young are only good for puzzy. They are too stupid to deal w/ all the other aspects life puts on you not to mention piling a fvcking r'ship on top.

I don't think I'd lie if you are looking for a LTR.

--Crowes
 

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Originally posted by crowes22
When i was 26 I got involved w/ a chick that was 19. Weird situation. Anyway it was a fvcking nightmare. Only for a breif time though b/c I ended it.

The point: Girls in their teens and early twenties are stupid. They haven't EVER dealt w/ a real man yet so they have never been burned. Never heard NO. Never been put in their place. Girls that young are only good for puzzy. They are too stupid to deal w/ all the other aspects life puts on you not to mention piling a fvcking r'ship on top.

I don't think I'd lie if you are looking for a LTR.

--Crowes

Nice to see you 'round Crowes.
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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So someone explain to me why someone would lie other than out of desperation.
 

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Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
So someone explain to me why someone would lie other than out of desperation.
Not alway, not necessarily....
I personally would like to "take off" a couple of year, since looking at my pics no one can guess correctly how old I am: all people say 22-28 instead of 30. It appear as if I am lying about my age when I say the truth.

But still it is the worst thing we can do: if she discover her guys lied her about her age, it will be the begining of the end.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
So someone explain to me why someone would lie other than out of desperation.
Because everybody is truly desperate.

Eliminating that is the difference.

--Crowes
 

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what happens if you actually hit things off with her and then she found out you lied? how would you recover that one?
 

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Originally posted by crowes22
Simple, dont' lie.
thats what im saying
ive been lied to about age before and i couldnt believe it !!
 

Francisco d'Anconia

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Originally posted by crowes22
Because everybody is truly desperate.

Eliminating that is the difference.

--Crowes
Desperation breeds AFCs.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I've lied a few times but I been asked for my Driver's Licence on 2 occassions.........I had no choice but to show it...fu<ked up big time
 

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The real question is not whether you should lie but rather it should be, 'how can I improve my physical appearance to the point where age is no longer an issue.'

There are clear, tell tale signs of aging: weight gain, wrinkles, and sagging body parts (ignorance of current fashion trends and pop culture are also dead giveaways if combined with the other physical signs). Improving your appearance, and mitigating the signs of aging will require a lot of work on your part, but it has payoffs far beyond the dating game. Eat better (try organic) and cut out the junk food. Wear a sun lotion with a high SPF. Wear sunglasses to protect your eyes and prevent yourself from scowling. Work out and sculpt your body so things don't sag.

I've never been asked about my age by my targets, or been told or even had a young female imply I shouldn't hit on them because I appear to be too old or because they think they're too young for me, and I'm well into my thirties.

In summary, take care of your body so that she will either not ask about your age if you approach in person, or so that whatever age you 'provide' on the internet will go unquestioned because you look so damm good after you two meet! Check out the health and fitness section on this board, or better yet, speak to a doctor, dietitian and join a gym.
 

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Re: The 35 y.o. age limit

Originally posted by swampwiz
It is true that a lot of women under 25 will not consider a man over 35 - on "paper" at least. And especially if you're using the internet, you have to first pass the paper test before you can even get into the game.

at first, once you talk to someone online for a long time and get to know them, age doesnt matter here either.
 

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what the hell is going on here?

lie about your age? why?
attraction has no boundaries bro
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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