"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Lunch with an ex?

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Should I feel bad about having lunch with my ex-girlfriend while I’m in a relationship with a new girl knowing the new girl knows about my history with my ex?
If it's just lunch then is it still considered a bad move since I have been told a lunch date means friendship?
I dated the ex for about two years even though we never really had a title , does that mean this is off limits for a while ...I just broke it off with this girl before I started getting things going with my new girlfriend.
I just not really used to having relationships with women anymore and I’m trying to maintain one after a year and half of living crazy life.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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You wanna f*ck the ex, right?

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Does your current girlfriend know about the luncheon? The answer to this question should help answer your question.
 

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No she does not...and i have since we started dating but i was thinking about this weekend , the thing is Ithink she would say she would say it was cool...but I guees I know she would be hurt a bit...and yes still want to F$## my ex...so bad move all around ?
 

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No, not a bad move. Go to "lunch." F*ck the ex, f*ck her hard. Ruthlessly. And enjoy it. Be cool. Don't get caught. All will work out. Don't tell the GF about the "lunch." Then go home and f*ck the new GF. Hard. Ruthlessly. And enjoy it.

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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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jeez alias you get down to the point dont you lol. If you wanna fvck her then you should just say it, I mean you guy's were 2gethor for a while weren't you? So I would think she would be cool with it since your not some new guy that has to run through the paces to get there. I agree just call her up ask her again to lunch and maybe go to your old house fvck her and leave, if she's still having lunch with you I guess she doesnt hate your or anything.
 

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I like where alias is coming from, He hit it right on the nail.
And make sure she pays for lunch...
 

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If you have even the slightest respect for your current 'girlfriend' then you shouldn't need to ask.
 

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justjosh47 said:
No she does not...and i have since we started dating but i was thinking about this weekend , the thing is Ithink she would say she would say it was cool...but I guees I know she would be hurt a bit...and yes still want to F$## my ex...so bad move all around ?
You have to ask yourself whether or not you'll feel guilty afterwards. Is the sex worth that possibility? Consider this, your initial question was about just having lunch, now you're talking about sex; hell it seems that you're having a challenge being honest with yourself. Just something to think about.
 

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Well I would not sleep with my ex any time soon becouse if I did It would only give her power .....I want her but I think I just want her in my life in some aspect , two years is a long time having the same chick in your bed and it's only been a few weeks ....I'm slowly laying off but thanks for the advice all.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Hey, Josh-----


Why would f*cking her give her "power." You have this other girl. You wanna hit it. Why not? I'm not saying you're wrong, I just don't understand.

Keep things good with the GF, and nail the ex on the side. Don't get girly on it, just nail her. Keep it all separate.

Be the man.

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Okay ignoring the macho BS just for a second and try to think out of the box.....I can get women but maintaining a relationships a different area ....If I f### a girl I was seeing for two years after we just broke it off and having her s know I’m seeing this new girl...that would give her a complex, she would think this guy wants my stuff still even though he is seeing this other chick and even if I do that's not what I want her to think....in my experience in recent years if you don’t kiss a** you will see the return ..Sex should reward good behavior. I don't know if I make any sense or not , it's not all about sex and if it was I would not be asking the question ....the girls that f@## dudes with girl friends can’t be trusted and I don’t any more dumb sluts in my life....I get sex from the new girl already and I think im just trying to decide if its worth it .
 

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josh..wandering why so many different reactions to your question? well we all see things differently.. at the end of the day, its what can you conciously live with...my personal experience and opinion would tell you to think this through...

i had a ex girlfriend of 3 years and i was seeing this new gf for a couple of months. I was still f**king my ex on the side. It worked for awhile, then of course she wanted more. She purposely tried to sabotage my current relationship. Everyone ended up getting hurt in the long run.. and NO , it was not worth it. she was my EX for a reason.
 

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Josh wrote:

"the girls that f@## dudes with girl friends can’t be trusted "



This can be translated as: "the girls that f@## dudes can’t be trusted."

Or, even better: " girls can’t be trusted. "





Get real, man. Open your eyes.

TRUST no one. Unless you've known them for TEN years.


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“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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^ you can't trust anyone but yourself no matter how long you've known them. Even family will turn on you sometimes.

Anyway, have some balls man. Don't cheat, that's low and you know what it's a total AFC move. If you have a girlfriend and you both agreed to exclusivity, keep it at that. You can still date girls and they can know you're dating other girls (implicitly of course) and they'll STILL date you, in fact they may want you even more knowing they have competition.

I don't know if you've both agreed to exclusivity or not. If you haven't, then it's fair game and do what you want. Obviously don't tell her, but if she finds out be prepared that she will be upset and may kick you to the curb, or she may stay with you and work that much harder.

On the other hand, if you've both explicitly agreed to be exclusive, then it's dumb. You can't have a gf who will only sleep with you and give you everything you ever wanted while you go sleep around with other girls.

Bottom line: if you're exclusive, be exclusive or tell her you want to date casually. Otherwise if you're not exclusive go do whatever the hell you want.
 

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So, when is the "lunch"?

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