LTR ended...

[darksprezzatura]

Long term plates CAN resemble a relationship but again commitment to it is the key...and there are very few truly long plate relationships out there.

You're correct that long term plates can resemble a relationship without a commitment. Sort of like an open relationship of sorts.

I have plates from years ago who are still spinning just because my frame never broke.

I'm still hooking up w plates from 6 years ago, 5 years ago, mostly because I've become better and better over the years.

Matter of fact my last two plates have been spinning for an year and I call them broken plates now because I'm not pursuing them anymore, but if I hit them after an year, possibly I'd smash.

It's really just about having a great time and avoiding ego based conflicts.

They associate happy emotions w me and keep coming for more.

 

[Bigpapa]

You're correct that long term plates can resemble a relationship without a commitment. Sort of like an open relationship of sorts.

I have plates from years ago who are still spinning just because my frame never broke.

I'm still hooking up w plates from 6 years ago, 5 years ago, mostly because I've become better and better over the years.

Matter of fact my last two plates have been spinning for an year and I call them broken plates now because I'm not pursuing them anymore, but if I hit them after an year, possibly I'd smash.

It's really just about having a great time and avoiding ego based conflicts.

They associate happy emotions w me and keep coming for more.

how do you manage to avoid the ego based conflicts

in my case they start and don”t let go till they do not push my buttons and get me super pissed, and thus start an ego based conflict

This happens mainly because they see that I am not reactive , and just want to piss me off

 

[darksprezzatura]

how do you manage to avoid the ego based conflicts

in my case they start and don”t let go till they do not push my buttons and get me super pissed, and thus start an ego based conflict

This happens mainly because they see that I am not reactive , and just want to piss me off

If you have lots of options, you'll smile as you wave them bye.

Good behaviour = postive/intermittent reinforcement

Bad behaviour = withdrawal/no attention

It's like dog training. Call me inhumane it is how it is.

 

[Bigpapa]

If you have lots of options, you'll smile as you wave them bye.

Good behaviour = postive/intermittent reinforcement

Bad behaviour = withdrawal/no attention

It's like dog training. Call me inhumane it is how it is.

yes ,it makes sense what you are saying , but the problem is that after a while it is like they try to sabotage the relationship on purpose by being b1tchy , rude , more or less try very aggressively to make you submit

after a while , you can not really brush it off by withdrawing attention , because after a lot of bad emotions you can not let it go anymore

 

[matt_uk]

Hi gents,

I’m the OP, had to delete the other account for reasons I won’t go into!

Really appreciate all your replies. Since I posted this she went hamster again when she found out I’ve been talking to other women (I’m single why would I not?) and told me in no uncertain terms she ‘had to walk away, I can’t do this anymore’.

This was only this morning and I won’t lie, I do feel pretty horrendous. For all the machismo and bravado that goes with RP LTR ‘game’ and break up ‘ZFG’ attitude, she was pretty great. In fact I’d go as far as to say when she said this my brain went into fight mode and veered horribly towards a oneitis kind of state. Her family aren’t quite as vindictive as maybe I made them out, but certainly it’s clear to see that a white guy isn’t exactly what they had in mind for their youngest daughter/sister.

I do have some small regrets for plating her for that long, but this did make me invest heavily and comfortably once I figured out she was a high value woman. However I struggled massively with the line between ‘dread’ and ‘comfort’, and probably dealt too much in dread. However as some of you have pointed out the demise of the LTR was ultimately her insecurity and her problem.

Glad to be a part of this community.

 

[matt_uk]

You can assume that she did defend him because that’s just what people do when someone they’re attracted to is attacked—especially women. Women always make excuses for being with men who treat them like crap, it makes no sense for this situation to somehow be different. Just because she succumbed to the pressure doesn’t mean she didn’t argue with them. If she liked him in the beginning, and still likes him now despite not even being with him anymore, then we know he isn’t doing anything wrong. It’s just her family. She simply chose to conform to her family’s desire i.e. her social environment rather than to be with OP. He shouldn’t have to compromise being a little bit more beta just so that her family can like him more. They already have preconceived notions about him and have made up their mind, so being “warmer” (i.e. a simp) will do nothing except kill the attraction she has for him.

Great post. Yes she defended me significantly and even now she wants to walk away I can tell she wants a future with me. Her family makes this very difficult/impossible.

 

[matt_uk]

Nothing wrong with that. @BackInTheGame78
Has a right to his opinion but grown up talks with these silly little girls barely ever works.
Women don't communicate through the sit down talk.

Whether you want her back or not i dont know but never think that telling a chick you need some space is a bad thing.
Always put your own mental health first.

I know a young man right now who should have done just this but didnt and now 2 years later is 5k deep into an engagement ring to a liberal kunt from a liberal family. Consider yourself lucky.

Good post mate. Just before ending it she got very funny about a girl (friend) that I speak to from time to time that she didn’t know about. This seemed to be the final nail in the coffin. I of course didn’t mean for this to create more dread but it happened by itself once she created this mental image of what I wanted to do to this woman.

I would be willing to be warmer towards her but I don’t want to hand my balls across the table and I find it hard to strike that balance

 

[matt_uk]

Stay cool and you can probably continue to bang her every time she's feeling lonesome. However, ultimately if you're not the one to wife her up someone else will because most women have the long-term objective of getting married and having kids.

Agree. I think if it had continued for a LONG time on the trajectory it was on, I’d probably have wanted kids with her and maybe marriage. The long term vetting really made me value her an awful lot.

 

[B80]

Find it interesting how family have so much influence over something like this.

My parents may give their opinion, voice concerns, but wouldn't keep pressing it on me. Neither would I listen if I was really into the woman.

Must be a cultural thing.

 

[Blacksheep]

Hi gents,

So it happened. My LTR ended. Just wanted to give a brief synopsis as I think it’s pretty interesting and amusing. Some classic Red Pill truths in here...

I met this girl nearly 3 years ago. 25, HB8, from a traditional Hindu family. She was a plate for over a year and in that time I dropped her and picked her up a couple of times. After I ended things with an ex she remained a plate for another 6 months. Things reached a head when we had the ‘where is this going?’ chat and I went away to consider what I wanted from this for a month before deciding I wanted to LTR her. So we were in an LTR for 18 months.

Fast forward to 2 months ago and she admits that she hated the way I plated her for so long. Her sisters have a talk to her along the lines of ‘you need a good, Hindu (beta) boy not this guy who uses you’ and she becomes insecure. Starts throwing around comfort tests which I deal with. Over the last few weeks she’s been wanting to ‘forget all the negativity and move forward’ (ie. ignore her sisters destructive feminist rants).

Well she couldn’t and she ends it. I walk away. One week later she’s all over me telling me ‘I just compare all other guys to you’ etc.

The power of sisters and the female hamster!

In those situations, the best is to cut all contact and move forward.

I can't see this going on a healthy path for both of you.

She will try to do anything to make you feel bad/guilty to kind of revenge from being treated as a plate for that period.

Sorry for that. Just move forward and open your doors for a new person.

 

[Bigpapa]

In those situations, the best is to cut all contact and move forward.

I can't see this going on a healthy path for both of you.

She will try to do anything to make you feel bad/guilty to kind of revenge from being treated as a plate for that period.

Sorry for that. Just move forward and open your doors for a new person.

like jay z said “ you dudes treat the ones that you loving with the same respect as the ones you are humping “

seducing game is quite different than relationship game