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Don Juan
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This lay was very different than many of my normal natural game lays. For those of you who are interested in how being good in bed can translate into being good at pickup, this is a good example.
This report is also a good example of Sexual Power Reversal. For those of you who haven’t heard Woodhaven explain the concept, Sexual Power Reversal is probably a vague concept of PUA nirvana where you magically get girls to buy you things and otherwise give high compliance in exchange for sex. This report will show you exactly how to achieve SPR with real-life examples.
Keys to the Lay
1. Smooth direct approach in the daytime using my conventional natural game.
2. Capitalizing on good logistics to quickly get a date.
3. Smooth isolation move and LMR technique to get the most compliance possible out of her on the date.
4. Tight phone game to bridge the time gap between the first date and the next time we could meet up.
5. Creating strong attraction through Sexual Presence on the second date, that is, by both projecting a sexual vibe and demonstrating to her that I have the traits of a good lover (Dominance, Emotion, Variety, Immersion).
6. Legitimizing my high sexual value by getting high levels of compliance before the lay (Sexual Power Reversal).
7. Strong isolation move and bedroom skills to ensure conversion.
Initial Approach
I meet up with my roommate Diggz in the food court of my favorite mall to do some sarging. We sit and talk for a little while, then I notice an attractive girl eating by herself at a nearby table.
I approach her with a direct opener. These are the best openers for my style of game because the driving force behind my game is my sexual skills. Once you have achieved sexual mastery, it is always better to show your sexuality with genuine interest than to hide it with asexual opinion openers.
I give her warm, friendly eye contact, face her directly, and get her attention. “Hey…I saw you eating over here, and I just had to say that you look real cute.” She smiles, and says thank you. She has a great, natural smile, and plus she’s mixed (half Asian and half white). I like her already.
I introduce myself. “I’m Dan,” I say, as I sit down with her.
In this stage of the pickup, I was still using my regular natural game. Initially, I keep the conversation light, make her laugh, and get her having fun. It was mostly straight vibing at first, see my post A Complete Guide to Vibing for more details on my vibing structure.
I did a little bit of active value demonstration. Some things I did include:
Role-playing: She worked at a nearby makeup store, I told her that she should be my fashion consultant. Also, she mentioned that she was from Hawaii and was going home for Christmas break. I told her that I was totally adopting myself into her family so that I could go to Hawaii with her and get Christmas presents (value and dirty compliance).
Push-pull: When she gets on a boring thread about makeup…
Dan: You know, I think that’s really cool how you know so much about makeup. High five!
HB: (Goes for it, and I pull my hand away and make her look dumb. I playfully turn away from her, and she laughs and hits me).
Dan: (I come back with playful kino) No, but seriously, I think that’s pretty cool.
HB: Really?
Dan: No.
HB: (Laughs and hits me again.)
Dan: (When we’re done laughing) I like how I can have fun with you like this (while touching her). Are you always this outgoing? (VERY IMPORTANT – The final pull and the transition into attainability and compliance).
From this point (about 10 minutes in) all of my active value demonstration is FINISHED. I literally have enough value to **** this chick right now, and the rest of my time with her will be spent making her work for me and demonstrating that I have a genuine interest in her.
I do some light screening and qualification, but not as much as I would like because she has to get back to work. I take her number and split.
Phone Game
I text her the same day about six hours later. This is very important – you should always follow up on your numbers by calling or texting as soon as possible. I call this the “Reverse Three Days” rule. While AFCs will always wait at least three days before they call, PUAs will always call or text before the third day. If you call within the first three days, you have the best chances of getting her on the phone.
If you are cool then you are cool, if not than you are not. Any loser can sit on a number for a week, so how long you wait to call her has nothing to do with how attracted she is to you. Just get her on the phone ASAP, then worry about attracting her.
I text her: Come kick ass at ju jitsu with me
She responds right away with: Would love to kick ass but friends are in town so i am occupied for a bit. Will call later
Because of the fast response time and how she took my joking text literally, I was going to call her later that night. She beat me to it though, and called me around 11:00. We talk for 10-15 minutes. Again some light screening and qualification, but mostly just vibing. She’s quick to laugh and has a real chilled out vibe, which I like.
I find that at higher levels, your game will improve tremendously if you can find these little things that you really like about the girls you’re interacting with. Otherwise, you’re just an automaton lifelessly going through the motions of seduction. If you can appreciate these things about a girl, it will naturally charge your interactions with the passion and enthusiasm of someone who’s genuinely enjoying the conversation.
Two days later, I call her. It turns out that she lives right near me, and in fact gets off the train at the same stop as I do. This is a great logistical situation; she’s so close to me that I can almost see her from my window. I take advantage of these great logistics to go for a date right away.
I tell her that I’m going to get bubble tea, and that she should come with me. She says that she doesn’t like bubble tea, but she’ll come hang out.
This is great compliance; she’s doing something she normally wouldn’t like doing just to hang out with me. It also signals the beginning of Sexual Power Reversal.
Initial Date
We meet up in an Asian food court near my house. I greet her with a big hug, then grab some bubble tea. We talk for a little, but it’s not the most romantic environment. There’s a big group of drunk college students yelling to each other in Korean, which breaks her state and mine.
I stand up, and say “let’s take a walk.” Then I just start walking, and she follows me. When she does, I reward her with some protective kino (hand on the small of her back.)
This piece of compliance was important to the Sexual Power Reversal, because it establishes the precedent that she follows where I lead.
We walk around for about five minutes outside. Diggz calls. I pick up, and then give the phone to my girl, saying “Here, talk to my roommate.”
She’s a little shy, but they talk for a minute or two. Then, I get back on the phone with him. After talking for a few minutes, I say “Hey, want to meet my roommate? We can smoke hookah together.” She agrees, and we head back to my place. At this point, I’d talked to her for less than half an hour total.
The reason why I was able to isolate her at this point was because of the Sexual Power Reversal I’d established before. Because I’d established the precedent that she followed where I led, she followed me right into my bedroom.
We meet up with Diggz, and we sit together in my room. It’s fairly clean, but I made sure to pile plenty of stuff up on the couch so that nobody could sit there. Being a good wingman, Diggz takes my only chair. I sit down on the bed, and She’s left standing up.
“Come sit down,” I tell her, and motion to the bed. She complies and sits next to me.
We start smoking the hookah together, and Diggz breaks out a bottle of tequila, lime slices and salt. I don’t offer her any alcohol. I tell her with a smile, “yeah, you definitely can’t drink anything, you’ll be all stumbling home and losing your way.”
Again, this is important for SPR. Trying to get her drunk, or even offering her alcohol this soon after meeting her, equals me working to get in her pants. This would have killed the SPR, so it was important that I stopped any thoughts in her mind that I was trying to get her drunk ASAP.
Diggz and I each do a few shots, then we pop in a movie. We turn the lights off and watch it together for a minute, then he gracefully retires. I’m now left with her alone in my bed in the dark.
I don’t rush things, sitting with my arm around her for about half and hour before I make out with her. She’s into it right off the bat. I start pre-empting her LMR with “we shouldn’t be doing this,” and “I like you, we can’t be doing this.” I get her shirt off and start fingering her, then she says that she has to go to the bathroom. She puts her clothes back on, and when she comes back she says that she has to go.
This is the first time in over a year that I haven’t gotten over LMR. I wouldn’t attribute this to a failure in Woodhaven’s LMR technique, which I think is awesome. It due more to the fact that I’d only know her for half an hour before I isolated her and hadn’t had the opportunity to make it solid.
I walk her home, holding her hand to give the interaction more of a boyfriend/girlfriend feel. This was important so that she would know that I like and care about her, and am not just a player. I kiss her goodnight, and then head home.
This report is also a good example of Sexual Power Reversal. For those of you who haven’t heard Woodhaven explain the concept, Sexual Power Reversal is probably a vague concept of PUA nirvana where you magically get girls to buy you things and otherwise give high compliance in exchange for sex. This report will show you exactly how to achieve SPR with real-life examples.
Keys to the Lay
1. Smooth direct approach in the daytime using my conventional natural game.
2. Capitalizing on good logistics to quickly get a date.
3. Smooth isolation move and LMR technique to get the most compliance possible out of her on the date.
4. Tight phone game to bridge the time gap between the first date and the next time we could meet up.
5. Creating strong attraction through Sexual Presence on the second date, that is, by both projecting a sexual vibe and demonstrating to her that I have the traits of a good lover (Dominance, Emotion, Variety, Immersion).
6. Legitimizing my high sexual value by getting high levels of compliance before the lay (Sexual Power Reversal).
7. Strong isolation move and bedroom skills to ensure conversion.
Initial Approach
I meet up with my roommate Diggz in the food court of my favorite mall to do some sarging. We sit and talk for a little while, then I notice an attractive girl eating by herself at a nearby table.
I approach her with a direct opener. These are the best openers for my style of game because the driving force behind my game is my sexual skills. Once you have achieved sexual mastery, it is always better to show your sexuality with genuine interest than to hide it with asexual opinion openers.
I give her warm, friendly eye contact, face her directly, and get her attention. “Hey…I saw you eating over here, and I just had to say that you look real cute.” She smiles, and says thank you. She has a great, natural smile, and plus she’s mixed (half Asian and half white). I like her already.
I introduce myself. “I’m Dan,” I say, as I sit down with her.
In this stage of the pickup, I was still using my regular natural game. Initially, I keep the conversation light, make her laugh, and get her having fun. It was mostly straight vibing at first, see my post A Complete Guide to Vibing for more details on my vibing structure.
I did a little bit of active value demonstration. Some things I did include:
Role-playing: She worked at a nearby makeup store, I told her that she should be my fashion consultant. Also, she mentioned that she was from Hawaii and was going home for Christmas break. I told her that I was totally adopting myself into her family so that I could go to Hawaii with her and get Christmas presents (value and dirty compliance).
Push-pull: When she gets on a boring thread about makeup…
Dan: You know, I think that’s really cool how you know so much about makeup. High five!
HB: (Goes for it, and I pull my hand away and make her look dumb. I playfully turn away from her, and she laughs and hits me).
Dan: (I come back with playful kino) No, but seriously, I think that’s pretty cool.
HB: Really?
Dan: No.
HB: (Laughs and hits me again.)
Dan: (When we’re done laughing) I like how I can have fun with you like this (while touching her). Are you always this outgoing? (VERY IMPORTANT – The final pull and the transition into attainability and compliance).
From this point (about 10 minutes in) all of my active value demonstration is FINISHED. I literally have enough value to **** this chick right now, and the rest of my time with her will be spent making her work for me and demonstrating that I have a genuine interest in her.
I do some light screening and qualification, but not as much as I would like because she has to get back to work. I take her number and split.
Phone Game
I text her the same day about six hours later. This is very important – you should always follow up on your numbers by calling or texting as soon as possible. I call this the “Reverse Three Days” rule. While AFCs will always wait at least three days before they call, PUAs will always call or text before the third day. If you call within the first three days, you have the best chances of getting her on the phone.
If you are cool then you are cool, if not than you are not. Any loser can sit on a number for a week, so how long you wait to call her has nothing to do with how attracted she is to you. Just get her on the phone ASAP, then worry about attracting her.
I text her: Come kick ass at ju jitsu with me
She responds right away with: Would love to kick ass but friends are in town so i am occupied for a bit. Will call later
Because of the fast response time and how she took my joking text literally, I was going to call her later that night. She beat me to it though, and called me around 11:00. We talk for 10-15 minutes. Again some light screening and qualification, but mostly just vibing. She’s quick to laugh and has a real chilled out vibe, which I like.
I find that at higher levels, your game will improve tremendously if you can find these little things that you really like about the girls you’re interacting with. Otherwise, you’re just an automaton lifelessly going through the motions of seduction. If you can appreciate these things about a girl, it will naturally charge your interactions with the passion and enthusiasm of someone who’s genuinely enjoying the conversation.
Two days later, I call her. It turns out that she lives right near me, and in fact gets off the train at the same stop as I do. This is a great logistical situation; she’s so close to me that I can almost see her from my window. I take advantage of these great logistics to go for a date right away.
I tell her that I’m going to get bubble tea, and that she should come with me. She says that she doesn’t like bubble tea, but she’ll come hang out.
This is great compliance; she’s doing something she normally wouldn’t like doing just to hang out with me. It also signals the beginning of Sexual Power Reversal.
Initial Date
We meet up in an Asian food court near my house. I greet her with a big hug, then grab some bubble tea. We talk for a little, but it’s not the most romantic environment. There’s a big group of drunk college students yelling to each other in Korean, which breaks her state and mine.
I stand up, and say “let’s take a walk.” Then I just start walking, and she follows me. When she does, I reward her with some protective kino (hand on the small of her back.)
This piece of compliance was important to the Sexual Power Reversal, because it establishes the precedent that she follows where I lead.
We walk around for about five minutes outside. Diggz calls. I pick up, and then give the phone to my girl, saying “Here, talk to my roommate.”
She’s a little shy, but they talk for a minute or two. Then, I get back on the phone with him. After talking for a few minutes, I say “Hey, want to meet my roommate? We can smoke hookah together.” She agrees, and we head back to my place. At this point, I’d talked to her for less than half an hour total.
The reason why I was able to isolate her at this point was because of the Sexual Power Reversal I’d established before. Because I’d established the precedent that she followed where I led, she followed me right into my bedroom.
We meet up with Diggz, and we sit together in my room. It’s fairly clean, but I made sure to pile plenty of stuff up on the couch so that nobody could sit there. Being a good wingman, Diggz takes my only chair. I sit down on the bed, and She’s left standing up.
“Come sit down,” I tell her, and motion to the bed. She complies and sits next to me.
We start smoking the hookah together, and Diggz breaks out a bottle of tequila, lime slices and salt. I don’t offer her any alcohol. I tell her with a smile, “yeah, you definitely can’t drink anything, you’ll be all stumbling home and losing your way.”
Again, this is important for SPR. Trying to get her drunk, or even offering her alcohol this soon after meeting her, equals me working to get in her pants. This would have killed the SPR, so it was important that I stopped any thoughts in her mind that I was trying to get her drunk ASAP.
Diggz and I each do a few shots, then we pop in a movie. We turn the lights off and watch it together for a minute, then he gracefully retires. I’m now left with her alone in my bed in the dark.
I don’t rush things, sitting with my arm around her for about half and hour before I make out with her. She’s into it right off the bat. I start pre-empting her LMR with “we shouldn’t be doing this,” and “I like you, we can’t be doing this.” I get her shirt off and start fingering her, then she says that she has to go to the bathroom. She puts her clothes back on, and when she comes back she says that she has to go.
This is the first time in over a year that I haven’t gotten over LMR. I wouldn’t attribute this to a failure in Woodhaven’s LMR technique, which I think is awesome. It due more to the fact that I’d only know her for half an hour before I isolated her and hadn’t had the opportunity to make it solid.
I walk her home, holding her hand to give the interaction more of a boyfriend/girlfriend feel. This was important so that she would know that I like and care about her, and am not just a player. I kiss her goodnight, and then head home.
