LR: Street --> Phone --> Lay

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LR: Street --> Phone --> Lay


This was one of my tougher lays in a while, as well as a pretty
unusual one. I met this girl while street sarging about a month and a half ago, and almost all of the gaming took place on the phone. I also think along with report I wrote on the Korean girls with Brian, this report shows my full range as a PUA. Those girls were really shy, while this chick was a hardcore party girl. This report will show a different side of my game for your reading pleasure. Enjoy.

Keys to the Lay:

1. Dominance -- Always maintaining a dominant frame, mostly
non-verbally
2. Not being fazed at all when she tested my value (****-tests)
3. Persistence -- I called this girl for over a month and a half, had
her flake on me twice before I got the lay
4. Teasing and busting on her ***from the right frame of mind*** not to cover up for insecurities
5. No hesitation -- on the initial approach, number close, or the final isolation move
6. Preventing her from talking and thinking logically in order to
overcome LMR.


Initial Approach:


I'm chillin with some bros from the Boston Lair down in Newbury Street, a high class shopping district. This is about a month an a half ago. It's a pretty big group of us, like four or five. Just as we all meet up, I see two HBs walking down the street and approach without hesitation. THIS IS KEY.


Hesitation speaks of low value. A goal that new guys should work towards is to be able to approach without even consciously thinking about it. A good example of this is my man Lunotick -- for anyone who's sarged with him, you'll see him spot a set of girls he likes and instantly start walking in their direction. It's almost like he can't consciously control it -- he just automatically does it.


Anyways -- the HBs are approaching from the opposite direction. I stop them with "hey guys" from about ten feet away, in order to give them time to hear me and stop. Once I have their attention, I open the hotter one direct. "Hey, I saw you walking here, and I like your style. You look good."

She giggles and smiles, and says thanks. She has braces! I tease/compliment her on her braces. "Awww....that's so cute, I love your braces." She laughs again, and starts telling me about why she has braces when shes in her twenties. And boom, I'm in.

The important things to notice about how I opened were that I opened without hesitation, I opened from far enough away to give them time to stop, and that I opened direct, not with an excuse. Also, what I can't convey in this report but is important to opening moving sets is having a commanding presence, which will cause sets to be inclined to listen to you rather than blow you off.

Anyways -- I ask them if they're in college, as a set up question to create material to vibe off of. My girl's a college student in the area, I tell her a few stories I'd heard about her college, she shares a few also. It turns out her friend just graduated from high school...wooooooooo. I bust on her friend for that, asking her if she goes to any crunk high school parties. She tells me that the parties are lame at her high school, and I tell her about the time I went to this party my freshman year of college, and met this girl who told me she was a sophomore. So I was like cool, I like older girls. And she's like no, I"m a sophomore in HIGH SCHOOL...and I'm like, ****. They laugh. I ask if she gets crunk at her high school dances, she's like nah, they're lame. I'm like, how can you not have a good time at high school dances...with chaperones and ****...and the slow dancing of course. I do a little demonstration on her of middle school style slow dancing, where you're standing like three feet away from the other person and barely touching them with your fingertips. We do a little slow dancing in the street, she's lovin' it.

The other guys are kind of standing in a group to the side, talking amongst themselves and watching me run the set. This is cool, because I like to open by myself. But now, I need someone to occupy HB Highschool here while I rap with my girl. I gesture over to them, and I'm like "come join the A-crowd here." My man VISHIZZLE, who specializes in pimping high school girls, steps up and joins the group. He's peacocked, and by peacocked I mean wearing NICE flashy clothes, not a ****ing wizard suit. We talk about this for a while, and all agree that he looks pimp.

I lightly screen my girl. I cold read her as being a party girl, I"m right. I ask if she can dance. She's like, of course. I tell her that's awesome, I love girls who can dance. I tell her how there's so many people who are afraid to just cut loose and have fun, and that you gotta chill with the people who don't give a **** like that. I tell her we should hit up a club sometime, and she can show me how to dance. She's like sure, so I #close her, tell her we'll make plans for Friday and split. I talked to these girls for about five minutes total before the #close.

Important things: This is a fairly typical time for a number close for me. TALKING TO A GIRL FOR LONGER WON'T MAKE HER ANY LESS LIKELY TO FLAKE. I can't emphasize this enough. More rapport does not necessarily equal less flakes. More VALUE causes less flakes. If you hesitate and tread water for twenty minutes before you number close her, this DETRACTS from your value. If you just want a #, usually aim for a timeframe of a 5-10 minute convo.

Phone game:

By far the most important part of this lay was the phone game. I called her up in a couple days, and we talk. She'd just come back from an entire weekend of partying...she's a pretty serious party girl. She tells me some good stories from the weekend, and I'm like dude, you gotta come to the parties at our house and get **** started. I tell her about a few of the crazy times we had at our house parties last year. This is a good commonality that we have...we're both the uninhibited party dudes in our groups who love drinking, dancing ang good times.

I screen her for having a balanced lifestyle, and not just partying all the time. She tells me that she does, she works a lot and is paying her own way through college. This is good. I go lighter on the screening than I normally would, because she's such a party girl. After about half an hour, I tell her we should hit up a club this Friday. She's like, sure, and we make plans to meet up at my house and pregame, then head over.

Friday comes, and she calls up and cancels. No big deal, I go out with a few of my boys instead. I call her up again a few days later, same drill. I display value by being dominant and having a fun party vibe. She's very dominant herself. I find that if you can be alpha over girls who try to be very doiminant, they will love you for it because very few guys are able to do that. Most guys will ***** out and let her own the frame, they key is to sure of yourself and never be fazed when she tries to test your value.

Anyways, I set up another club day2 for next Saturday, she says she can't make it, she has to work. I'm like, that's cool, and I just keep going. we talk for a little while more, then I go to bed.

She called me again next week...once again she was eager to talk and loving the conversation, but she wouldn't meet up.

A few weeks go by, and play phone tag back and forth calling each other sporadically. Same MO -- fun, dominant party vibe, light screening, going for meetups and not being fazed when she said she couldn't.

One night, we have about 15-20 people over for a small party, and I tell her she should drop by. She tells me she'll be in the area later, but she doesn't know if she can come. She's like, if I come over, I'll have to stay over your house for the night. I'm like "alright, cool" in a frank, direct tone which lets her know that I want to **** her and that I'm completely comfortable doing so.

This was the most important test of my value that she did to me. She did other things to to test me -- most notably the flaking, and the calling but not wanting to meet up. The correct way to handle these tests is to persist confidently past them, and not show the slightest trace of being fazed or upset by them. This test was different though. I hesitate to call it a "****-test," which has kind of a negative connotation, she was actually testing me through showing interest in me.

This is the type of test that many guys would fail. Either they would make the mistake of being overeager and be like "gee golly, that'd be awesome!!!" Or, they'd do even worse and try to fake disinterest, saying **** like "Eww you're my bratty little sister, you can't sleep over, I don't think of you in that way, blah blah blah." Both responses make you look like a ***** who is of lower value. The correct response is to let her know, mostly through your tonality, that A. You want to **** her B. You'd consider it completely normal if she came over to be ****ed, and C. That if she comes over, you are going to **** her until she can't walk for a few days.

Anways, she never makes it over that night. We have a good time anyways though. My long-time beer pong partner shook some rust off our game and kicked some ass after a tough initial game where we got beat by a team with a girl on it. One of my friends from the lair comes over, and we smoke a few bowls and grab some dogs.

A few nights later, she calls again and asks if she can sleep over, I'm like, sure. I start drinking a little and watching the Pats game with my boys, and she calls me and tells me shes at the train stop near my house. I finish watching the first half and watch Flutie throw that sick touchdown pass, then head out to meet her.
 

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The Lay:

I meet her, and she's dressed to kill. Black stiletto heels, with tight, dark jeans which show off her ass well. Tight, black and white tank top topped off with gold necklaces and earrings. She looks amazing, and she's obviously put a lot of effort into her looks tonight.

I greet her with a hug right away. I find that this is good to do on dates, to set the tone right from the beginning and get kino going immediately. I ask her how her day went, and she starts telling me about how she had to work all day, and it was so stressful, etc. I spin her negativity into a good conversational topic by talking about how I had to work all day today too, but it was all good because when I got home I busted out a sick come from behind win in fooseball over my friend.

We get home, and speak of the devil, my friend is right there nerding out on his computer. I go the the freezer and grab a handle of vodka, and take a few swigs. We hang out in his room for a while...ordinarily, I would just have headed up to my room, but this helped my game because this guy is my best friend, and we socially proof each other well. After a few minutes, I take her down to show her the work we did on our basement to have parties there this fall. I tell her she should drop by, I'd love to see her at parties here, and she says she definitely will.

We kill the music, and roll upstairs to my room on the third floor. She goes straight to the bed and lays down. I turn on some music, take off my shoes and lie down beside her. I whisper in her ear a little bit, then turn her over and start making out with her.

She's really into it right off the bat...then she pulls away, and she's like nooo...I have to get some sleep. Ahahahaha. I take off my shirt, turn off the lights and hop into bed with her.

I turn her over again and start making out with her. Again, she pulls away and starts talking about her aunt or some dumb ****. I actually give her a response and talk for a little while, which was a mistake.

This pattern went on for about twenty minutes. We'd make out, I'd feel her up a little, and she's pull away and try to break her state by talking about logical stuff. Finally I wise up to what's happening and tell her that she's not allowed to talk in my bed any more.

I get her shirt off -- she pulls away again. She's like, the only reason why I let you get away with that is because it's really hot in here, and I bust out laughing. She's like noooooooooo, reaaaaaaaaaaly. We can't have sex tonight, I'm not a slut. I'm like, alright, that’s cool, and lay back down on the pillow behind her.

I do a little "freeze-out" of sorts, although I don't think that's a good word for it. I was still cuddling and touching her, just took a little break from feeling her up. I was going to keep going in a few minutes, but before I get the chance she gets out of bed, takes her pants off, and lays back down beside me. She's like, "it's hot in here." Then she starts rubbing her ass against my **** and making these soft little porno moans. I manage to keep a straight face.

I let her do this for a little while, then I climb on top of her and start making out with her again, rubbing my hands all over her body. I push my erection up against her *****, and she's grinding herself against it. I take my shorts off, so I'm on top of her naked, and take off her bra. She's stroking my ****, and AGAIN she tries to break her state by talking logically. She's like "Alright, we have two options tonight…” I'm like, shut up, and I kind of put my **** near her face so that she can blow me. She gets the hint, and starts giving me head.

Now for normal girls it’s probably going to cause lots more LMR if you tell them to shut up and stick your **** in their mouth when she gives you resistance. With girls who are used to calling the shots like this one though, the way to get over LMR is to just dominate the **** out of her and tell her exactly what she’s going to do.

I take off her panties and start fingering her, and for some reason this hurts her. So then I start licking that ****, jlaix style. It takes her forever to ***, but finally she cums in my face, and it’s delicious.

We take a little break, and my **** gets soft. She gets me back up to speed by giving me head, and then I put a condom on and stick it in her. Unfortunately, I put too much lube in the condom which makes my **** too sensitive, so I don’t last too long. I get about ten minutes of hard ****ing in there though before I blow it inside her. I eat her out again, then we go to sleep.

I get about two hours of sleep before I have to go to work for yet another twelve hour shift. Gotta say, it was worth it though ;).

Again, the keys:

1. Dominance -- Always maintaining a dominant frame, mostly
non-verbally
2. Not being fazed at all when she tested my value (****-tests)
3. Persistence -- I called this girl for over a month and a half, had
her flake on me twice before I got the lay
4. Teasing and busting on her ***from the right frame of mind*** not to cover up for insecurities
5. No hesitation -- on the initial approach, number close, or the final isolation move
6. Preventing her from talking and thinking logically in order to
overcome LMR.

-Dan
 

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NIiiiiiiiiice work on the LMR part, actually all the way through, sounds like you played everything well.

Slow dancing in the street, lol =)

I admire how you pushed past the LMR, really.

I wouldn't have played it that way, but like you said, it worked. She was in denial of what she wanted.

If you really want to try something funny, try giving HER LMR. It's hilarious.

Pull back from kissing. She'll probably say "fine!" and move away. Now start talking about something logical.

If she's into you, this will drive her BATTY. Of course you need a lot of self control to be able to win this virtual staring contest.

But after that, she'll RAPE you, man.
 
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