"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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LR: My ex screwed me up

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Okay, so I met this chick at work a few weeks ago and we started hanging out a week ago and chatting on the phone everyday since I found out she quit. I like her because she reminds me of a younger version of my ex with her hairstyle and the way she dresses.

When I saw this chick, I thought about how good it might be to have a relationship with her (AFC I know, but I'm tired of just screwing around and I want to chill with one girl).

Anyways, I was trying to take my time with her before becoming too sexual, but that plan went to hell last night. I did kiss her the first night we hung out in my car and I started talking about sexual things really soon. This girl is a freak and she seems so sweet and innocent too. The only good thing is that she doesn't hide her sexual side I guess (perhaps her acting sweet and innocent was only while she was working with me).

So, I banged her in my car last night and the problem is, I did want something more with this girl, but now I don't see it anymore. She gives head too well and there was little to no resistance on her part. Even more, I got so used to sleeping with my ex without a condom that I took my condom off after about 20 minutes and did it bare.

I don't know, I just don't want to keep banging random chicks and I would like a committed relationship eventually, but I want someone who is relatively inexperienced and gives me somewhat of a challenge (not too much, but not so little as to make me feel like I could be ANY guy and still get laid).

That's it.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Espi said:
What's the problem?

Give it a week or so...you'll be ready for this girl again I'm sure. Keep pursuing other girls...that should be challenging enough for you.

And wear a condom!!!!!
Oh, I'm gonna keep getting with her, but I just got so used to being in a relationship, that I want another one and I thought that she might be a potential LTR.

As for the condom, I saw this commercial and Trojan has a new one called Ecstasy that I"m gonna try...anyone else try these?
 

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I know some guys on here might say Bishop is AFC for wanting a committed relationship with this gal. I don't necessarily think he is. Nothing wrong with that. Bishop, not trying to diagnose, but please search the threads for Borderline Personality Disorder and Bi-Polar Disorder. Be aware of this. I sense something here. Good luck buddy.
 

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5string said:
I know some guys on here might say Bishop is AFC for wanting a committed relationship with this gal. I don't necessarily think he is. Nothing wrong with that. Bishop, not trying to diagnose, but please search the threads for Borderline Personality Disorder and Bi-Polar Disorder. Be aware of this. I sense something here. Good luck buddy.
I don't think he gave enough info on this girl one way or the other for us to gauge whether or not she's bipolar.

I've gotten sexual with a couple relationship-worthy chicks early on in things. It's just how it goes. Which is why I don't see why he's so concerned.

He likes the chick. She's not giving him drama. The only concern is that she's too sexual? Unless he's picking up some whorish vibes, keep dating her and see where your feelings take you. We can't just look at someone and evaluate whether or not they'd be good girlfriends. It's a process, and often that process starts with sex and unfolds into a relationship or a f*** buddy, or a flight...etc.
 

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5string said:
I know some guys on here might say Bishop is AFC for wanting a committed relationship with this gal. I don't necessarily think he is. Nothing wrong with that. Bishop, not trying to diagnose, but please search the threads for Borderline Personality Disorder and Bi-Polar Disorder. Be aware of this. I sense something here. Good luck buddy.
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Iceberg said:
I don't think he gave enough info on this girl one way or the other for us to gauge whether or not she's bipolar.

I've gotten sexual with a couple relationship-worthy chicks early on in things. It's just how it goes. Which is why I don't see why he's so concerned.

He likes the chick. She's not giving him drama. The only concern is that she's too sexual? Unless he's picking up some whorish vibes, keep dating her and see where your feelings take you. We can't just look at someone and evaluate whether or not they'd be good girlfriends. It's a process, and often that process starts with sex and unfolds into a relationship or a f*** buddy, or a flight...etc.
I think the problem I have mostly stems from how my last break up affected me. It was like I always felt in control over my emotions, and no matter how I rationalized the break up in my mind, my emotions would not follow. I made a thread about it a while ago, but didn't receive any satisfactory answers to it.

This loss of control I experienced made me extremely timid when dealing with women. I never had a problem with just having one night stands and sleeping with multiple women before until recently. I just know that it's not the answer for me.
 

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Bishop. I was not talking about you, but rather her. You say she gives "too good" of a bj, is a freak (I assume you were talking in terms of having sex with her). At the same time she is "sweet and innocent". That's why I sensed something. Iceberg, I don't disagree with you at all, and always enjoy your posts by the way. Just suggesting to Bishop he be aware of these conditions. I know of this first hand (BPD). Might save some heartache in the future.
 

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Bishop. I was not talking about you, but rather her. You say she gives "too good" of a bj, is a freak (I assume you were talking in terms of having sex with her). At the same time she is "sweet and innocent". That's why I sensed something. Iceberg, I don't disagree with you at all, and always enjoy your posts by the way. Just suggesting to Bishop he be aware of these conditions. I know of this first hand (BPD). Might save some heartache in the future.
lol...my bad. I was almost 100 percent you were talking about me. Anyways, yeah, she has already told me about her having bi polar.

For some reason, every girl I meet has some type of disorder (my last ex was full of anger and rage). It's strange because the new girl says that she is drama free.

However, please enlighten me on your experiences with this in dealing with women.
 

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lol...my bad. I was almost 100 percent you were talking about me. Anyways, yeah, she has already told me about her having bi polar.

For some reason, every girl I meet has some type of disorder (my last ex was full of anger and rage). It's strange because the new girl says that she is drama free.

However, please enlighten me on your experiences with this in dealing with women.
Hey Bispop. Just search the threads on here for BPD and Bi Polar. Lots of your friends on this forum have dealt with it. Know the warning signs of personality disorders. Then you will be "aware" when you start seeing the signs, ie rage, splitting, bad childhoods with various types of abuse, mommy and daddy issues. The list goes on and on. If nothing else, it's interesting to read about. Just not much fun to actually experience it. That's an understatement. If your new squeeze is drama free, way to go man! See what happens. Good luck.
 

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Hey Bispop. Just search the threads on here for BPD and Bi Polar. Lots of your friends on this forum have dealt with it. Know the warning signs of personality disorders. Then you will be "aware" when you start seeing the signs, ie rage, splitting, bad childhoods with various types of abuse, mommy and daddy issues. The list goes on and on. If nothing else, it's interesting to read about. Just not much fun to actually experience it. That's an understatement. If your new squeeze is drama free, way to go man! See what happens. Good luck.
All right, I'll check it out.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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"I wouldn't want to belong to any club that would have me as a member" - Groucho Marx

Kinda reminds me of that. I'm struggling with something similar at the moment too; I'm debating starting my own thread about it. Basically I'm torn between a 7.5 who I conquered really easily, and an 8.5 who I have been on/off with in the past but is tough to pin down. I don't know what's wrong with me. A lot of my friends say I should go for the 7.5 and just be happy, but even that extra 1.0 of attractiveness and the fact that it was so easy to get her makes me lose a lot of interest.

It just goes to show that our DJ principles work both ways. If the girl plays into our hands too easily it can actually be a turnoff. What the hell is wrong with me.
 
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