I would like to start out - stress highly - that chat rooms are not a replacement for real life. pulling a random girl from a random room is rare, and although i have a couple friends with really good systems for meeting and laying women from myspace, chat rooms are too random to really form a good theory for.
However.
I post this in an attempt to give advice to guys on this board.
talking with a girl on chat is no different than talking to her in real life.
got that?
just like in real life, you need to build rapport, then make it sexual, get the number and / or meet up. despite what most people think, the only difference between a chat room and real life is that chat rooms take away all the body language, all the approach anxiety, and all the logistics. chat rooms are ONLY the logical words that come out of your mouth.
GOT IT???? So pickup in chat rooms is actually EASIER than pickup in real life! The ONLY thing you need to worry about is what you say, not how you say it, or even who you say it to when in public chat rooms!!! hell, you can't really even be ****blocked on chat rooms, because she may just private message both of you (don't get jealous)
You can master the logical, word part of pickup in chat rooms. then, when you go out, you'll already be a stunning conversationalist, and all you need to worry about is the non-verbal stuff. you don't need to spend any brain power on figuring out what to say.
PLUS, you'll have transcripts of the entire conversation that you can study later, and figure out what you did good and bad. I think that being able to study former interactions, and show them to other DJs for advice on what to do better next time, is a tool that will drastically decrease your learning time. Post some transcripts on here, and we can tell you what's good and what's wrong.
So, I went into an AOL chat room out of boredom last night, as all the bars near my area are dead on Mondays and I was feeling too lazy to leave the house to go anywhere else. One of the problems with chatrooms is that there are a lot of bots, plus the people are mostly men looking for slutty women.
So it actually took me a few hours - f***ing hours - of going to room to room, trying to get conversations going. Again, chat rooms are random and tough to pull off, but still.
I found a room where there were a couple guys giving out their "Any girls wanna chat" messages and, out of desperation for conversation, began talking to them, asking them open ended questions. Well, during this time some other people stuck their heads into the room, and I immediately welcomed them and talked to them so they would stay. In real life, this is building a social circle. Same principle here.
Eventually this girl (call her "Chrissy") shows up. She actually started with "25/female/bi-curious cam horny" and so i thought she was a bot, as that's how most bots start. I complained about bots like Chrissy, but she actually had some friends in the room, and they said no no she's cool, and then she got in my face about calling her a bot. okay, here's some text, i hate chat room text, but it's a complete transcript, all named changed.
Me: it's cool. my last girlfriend was a bot.
Tom: horny women rarely come in chat unless they're really umm, heavier
Sue: oh lol
Dude: haha
Other dude: lol
Tom: how was it dating a bot
Guy: aka fat
Chrissy: im not a bot tom
Me: our relationship lasted for the 10 minutes before i got into this chat room
Chrissy: thats mean to call people
Me: it was mostly physical
Girl: lol
Me: she always wanted me to type
Tom: i didn't call anyone anything
Me: it got tedious
Chrissy: u called me a bot
Me: Chrissy you're the smartest bot i've ever met
Chrissy: lol
Chrissy: thanks
Tom: sorry, there was another bot called Chrissy also
Me: wow, so lifelike
Girl: u guys are goofy
Another guy: definitely sounded like a bot Chrissy
Chrissy: 8-|
Guy: but hey dude she's horny and not fat
Me: wait... so Chrissy, you aren't 25 and too horny to sleep?
Me: nevermind...
Me: i'm just kidding, you're cool
Chrissy: i dont censor my feelings...sorry
Me:
Tom: oh boy, here goes every guy into her pm box
Dude: hey rock on
Yet another dude: lol
This is all standard rapport, like the convo you'd hear a group of friends saying in a bar, more or less. Notice how Tom is trying to win her over by being nice. This is AFC. Don't do it. All the other guys I quote here were at some point private messaging her, as Tom so helpfully points out. That random girl is there to show that she appreciated the conversation I was leading. At the very end, where I say 'you aren't 25 and too horny to sleep' that's called a take-away. I throw out a sexual comment, but if I were to just leave it there, she'd reject it. So I bring it out, and then take it back. This way she thinks about it, but is not under any social pressure to look desperate (ASD is what The Game calls it).
So anyway, I do not pm her. I changed the subject, talked to other people. I would ask big open ended questions. "Where has everyone traveled?" and appreciate her answer over all the others "Really,Chrissy? I'd love to go to France. The problem is, there's something about french that really turns me on, so don't talk french to me." There's another take-away. She responded by typing french. I'm tempting her into taking the next step, which means she will never tell me no. I make it sexual in general, then pull it back. She makes it sexual between the two of us.
So the reason she pms me is because I say, after she talks about traveling, in the chat room, "Hey Chrissy, I think your desire to see the world and travel is really sexy. Of course, this isn't a private message though, so I can't tell you that."
Boom. She pm's me in 20 seconds.
We swap pictures. Talk about stuff. She says:
Her: okay, i'm back in the room, talk on that.
Me: Ok
We go back to the room where I immediately start talking to the other people, although her as well, I'm not freezing her out. I'd like to point out that she starts making comments like "I'm more sexual than most people think" which the other guys respond to. I don't, I actually start a damn chess game with another guy! all while talking normally.
Back to the pm......
Her:
Her: I'm bored
Her: pay attention to me
Me: I have some wonderful conversations going out here
Me: And a chess game!
Her: lame
{a minute or so}
Her: What do you do?
{more talk....}
Me: What's your passion?
Her: I like healthcare.
Me: My health knowledge only expands to playing Operation. What do you like about it?
Her: seeing how the body works
Her: umm
Her: call me
Me: huh? do i just type your name into my phone?
Her: lol
Her: no
Me: Well, then give me your number and I'll call you
Her: ###-###-####
Call, chat for 15 min or so, phone sex.
Meeting in a couple hours.
Guys - if you can consistently pull this online, you will get better in real life. All these conversational skills I showed here are applicable to every day life. Practice in chat rooms, while very imperfect, can teach you a lot.
I highly suggest this to anyone if starting out, as they will at least be getting SOME training in for conversational technique.
PS. I have never really tried this before, but if anyone wants to get on IM and practice seduction with me, it may seem odd, but I have stuff I want to work on, and I could give you some pointers too. PM me about it, although I'll be busy tonight, so..... we may have to do it later.....
However.
I post this in an attempt to give advice to guys on this board.
talking with a girl on chat is no different than talking to her in real life.
got that?
just like in real life, you need to build rapport, then make it sexual, get the number and / or meet up. despite what most people think, the only difference between a chat room and real life is that chat rooms take away all the body language, all the approach anxiety, and all the logistics. chat rooms are ONLY the logical words that come out of your mouth.
GOT IT???? So pickup in chat rooms is actually EASIER than pickup in real life! The ONLY thing you need to worry about is what you say, not how you say it, or even who you say it to when in public chat rooms!!! hell, you can't really even be ****blocked on chat rooms, because she may just private message both of you (don't get jealous)
You can master the logical, word part of pickup in chat rooms. then, when you go out, you'll already be a stunning conversationalist, and all you need to worry about is the non-verbal stuff. you don't need to spend any brain power on figuring out what to say.
PLUS, you'll have transcripts of the entire conversation that you can study later, and figure out what you did good and bad. I think that being able to study former interactions, and show them to other DJs for advice on what to do better next time, is a tool that will drastically decrease your learning time. Post some transcripts on here, and we can tell you what's good and what's wrong.
So, I went into an AOL chat room out of boredom last night, as all the bars near my area are dead on Mondays and I was feeling too lazy to leave the house to go anywhere else. One of the problems with chatrooms is that there are a lot of bots, plus the people are mostly men looking for slutty women.
So it actually took me a few hours - f***ing hours - of going to room to room, trying to get conversations going. Again, chat rooms are random and tough to pull off, but still.
I found a room where there were a couple guys giving out their "Any girls wanna chat" messages and, out of desperation for conversation, began talking to them, asking them open ended questions. Well, during this time some other people stuck their heads into the room, and I immediately welcomed them and talked to them so they would stay. In real life, this is building a social circle. Same principle here.
Eventually this girl (call her "Chrissy") shows up. She actually started with "25/female/bi-curious cam horny" and so i thought she was a bot, as that's how most bots start. I complained about bots like Chrissy, but she actually had some friends in the room, and they said no no she's cool, and then she got in my face about calling her a bot. okay, here's some text, i hate chat room text, but it's a complete transcript, all named changed.
Me: it's cool. my last girlfriend was a bot.
Tom: horny women rarely come in chat unless they're really umm, heavier
Sue: oh lol
Dude: haha
Other dude: lol
Tom: how was it dating a bot
Guy: aka fat
Chrissy: im not a bot tom
Me: our relationship lasted for the 10 minutes before i got into this chat room
Chrissy: thats mean to call people
Me: it was mostly physical
Girl: lol
Me: she always wanted me to type
Tom: i didn't call anyone anything
Me: it got tedious
Chrissy: u called me a bot
Me: Chrissy you're the smartest bot i've ever met
Chrissy: lol
Chrissy: thanks
Tom: sorry, there was another bot called Chrissy also
Me: wow, so lifelike
Girl: u guys are goofy
Another guy: definitely sounded like a bot Chrissy
Chrissy: 8-|
Guy: but hey dude she's horny and not fat
Me: wait... so Chrissy, you aren't 25 and too horny to sleep?
Me: nevermind...
Me: i'm just kidding, you're cool
Chrissy: i dont censor my feelings...sorry
Me:
Tom: oh boy, here goes every guy into her pm box
Dude: hey rock on
Yet another dude: lol
This is all standard rapport, like the convo you'd hear a group of friends saying in a bar, more or less. Notice how Tom is trying to win her over by being nice. This is AFC. Don't do it. All the other guys I quote here were at some point private messaging her, as Tom so helpfully points out. That random girl is there to show that she appreciated the conversation I was leading. At the very end, where I say 'you aren't 25 and too horny to sleep' that's called a take-away. I throw out a sexual comment, but if I were to just leave it there, she'd reject it. So I bring it out, and then take it back. This way she thinks about it, but is not under any social pressure to look desperate (ASD is what The Game calls it).
So anyway, I do not pm her. I changed the subject, talked to other people. I would ask big open ended questions. "Where has everyone traveled?" and appreciate her answer over all the others "Really,Chrissy? I'd love to go to France. The problem is, there's something about french that really turns me on, so don't talk french to me." There's another take-away. She responded by typing french. I'm tempting her into taking the next step, which means she will never tell me no. I make it sexual in general, then pull it back. She makes it sexual between the two of us.
So the reason she pms me is because I say, after she talks about traveling, in the chat room, "Hey Chrissy, I think your desire to see the world and travel is really sexy. Of course, this isn't a private message though, so I can't tell you that."
Boom. She pm's me in 20 seconds.
We swap pictures. Talk about stuff. She says:
Her: okay, i'm back in the room, talk on that.
Me: Ok
We go back to the room where I immediately start talking to the other people, although her as well, I'm not freezing her out. I'd like to point out that she starts making comments like "I'm more sexual than most people think" which the other guys respond to. I don't, I actually start a damn chess game with another guy! all while talking normally.
Back to the pm......
Her:
Her: I'm bored
Her: pay attention to me
Me: I have some wonderful conversations going out here
Me: And a chess game!
Her: lame
{a minute or so}
Her: What do you do?
{more talk....}
Me: What's your passion?
Her: I like healthcare.
Me: My health knowledge only expands to playing Operation. What do you like about it?
Her: seeing how the body works
Her: umm
Her: call me
Me: huh? do i just type your name into my phone?
Her: lol
Her: no
Me: Well, then give me your number and I'll call you
Her: ###-###-####
Call, chat for 15 min or so, phone sex.
Meeting in a couple hours.
Guys - if you can consistently pull this online, you will get better in real life. All these conversational skills I showed here are applicable to every day life. Practice in chat rooms, while very imperfect, can teach you a lot.
I highly suggest this to anyone if starting out, as they will at least be getting SOME training in for conversational technique.
PS. I have never really tried this before, but if anyone wants to get on IM and practice seduction with me, it may seem odd, but I have stuff I want to work on, and I could give you some pointers too. PM me about it, although I'll be busy tonight, so..... we may have to do it later.....