“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Its not about crushing anyone its been posted on an open forum specifically for discussion

Men have been picking women up since the dawn of time its nothing new, nor in these circumstances does it even warrant a pat on the back

Its just literally teenage swipe app shenanigans with a hotel and travel thrown in between

and I'm assuming OP is a lot older than a teenager
I'm 31. I'm pretty sure it shows my age if that profile option is working.

The forum is meant to focus on seduction, so I talk about seduction. I'm aware of my shortcomings and am working towards rectifying them, but that's not what I come here to post about - those are my own problems.

There are some people (not necessarily you, more like @Chow Mein or @New_Journey types) who, like @BadBoy89 said above, just want to focus on a flaw, or skepticism - rather than enjoying the read, maybe learning something they themselves can apply, or being happy for the success of a fellow forum member...they can even ignore it and say nothing. Once I'm making good money and have my own place, what will they find to complain about next?

So I don't bother trying to please those people, since the goalpost is forever moving.

Focus on what are teachable moments from this post:
  • We matched on a dating app, and I quickly moved the conversation OFF the app, got her number, then set up a date for that same night
  • I originally self-ejected on this date because I believed she was a prude and had another girl to see, but didn't completely shut it down, and was pleasantly surprised when we made out
  • I established enough interest and attraction that she waited 2 weeks after that to see me again, following my vacation, even hitting ME up to see if I was free that following weekend AND during the work week
  • I purposely made a forward offer (getting a hotel room together) to see if her interest level was high enough to justify the time investment and money I'd spend, rather than assuming such interest and being potentially flaked on or blue-balled
  • I declined her offer to pay for half the room, establishing that this was MY treat to HER, but allowed her to feel like she was contributing by picking out the wine for us to share, so she feels similarly invested in the evening
  • I checked in ahead of time, picked her up, and dropped her off to avoid any friction that might've occurred if she stuck with her original plan to use public transport
  • There was no question of my commitment to her beyond this, no last-minute resistance or anti-sl*t defense, no concrete plans for the future - but also no discontinuation of communication (she still follows me on Instagram, texts me, and had an amicable parting when I kissed her goodbye after dropping her off). The door is open to future meetings, but there is no obligation either
Beyond me being good-looking, I'm clearly doing things right - this sh** isn't happening by chance. These LRs are to showcase what worked for me, and what can work for you.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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teachable moments from this post
It's good you highlighted all of them.

I purposely made a forward offer (getting a hotel room together) to see if her interest level was high enough to justify the time investment and money I'd spend, rather than assuming such interest and being potentially flaked on or blue-balled
There are many men who would struggle with this concept and then get themselves into a messy situation. The messy situation likely couldn't be fixed, so the man would have to take the L and walk away without getting sex.

This lesson isn't usually happening in relation to getting a hotel room for sex when one lives with their parents, but so many men who don't live with their parents over invest time and money in interactions.
 

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Hello again, boys. I'd meant to type this up last night, but I was incredibly tired from my day and the night before, so I decided to relax and be lazy.

Let me briefly bring you back in time to this moment from LR - 102:


There's not a lot to this, but I'll provide some background context on this girl. I went and looked through my phone to see how we got to this point: we matched on Tinder, had a short conversation, I asked for her phone number and Instagram (so I could get a better look at her), and we planned out a date for later that night. Her English is good, not great, and she struggles with understanding literal and figurative meanings of words, as well as expressions, so there's a slight language barrier sometimes. She also has a very thick accent.

Having returned from my vacation and had a weekend to relax and recoup, I decided to reach out to this girl again. The weekend prior, she hit me up, but I was still sick, recovering from the abuse I put my body through during that vacation. Like I mentioned in the quote above, she is an au pair from France for a gay family who has cameras set up throughout their place, so I couldn't go to hers. Her host family doesn't allow her to use their car outside of work, and I live with my family, so my place wasn't an option either.

Interest seemed high, so I asked her if she would be down to share a room with me, since we didn't have anywhere else private to go. Do note, I generally suggest MAKING THE PLAN, rather than ASKING, but in my case, I didn't want to spend the time and money on going up to Philadelphia if she wasn't on the same page - so I wanted to see if she would bite.

And she did.

She even offered to help me pay for the room. I declined that offer and told her all she had to do was wear something nice, and if she wanted to pay for something, she could pick out the bottle of wine we would share.

Now...I had a very busy day...I work from home on Fridays, but had an old plate (the one that I said re-entered my life after initially wanting "something more serious") hit me up in the morning wanting me to come over since she had the house to herself, but only for the early part of the day. So I banged her out, bought my groceries for the week, worked from home, went to the gym, and got myself ready to go up to Philly to pick up this girl and check into our hotel. By the time I checked in, picked her up, and brought her to the hotel, it was LATE - like around midnight.

The room looked much nicer online (it always does), but it worked for what we were using it for. She wore a tight-fitted black dress, some low heels, and picked out a bottle of pinot. I kissed her when I picked her up, we made out a few times in the room, and just sat there for a bit, talking, drinking, and watching a movie on the hotel TV. At one point, she commented along the lines of "I'm not as much of an angel as you might think", to which I replied, "I was hoping you weren't". We started making out again, but this time we went all the way. The sex itself was good; she had very big, nice boobs, and was otherwise very enthusiastic. Though something worth noting, because of her thick French accent, the way she talked dirty was more funny than arousing...the way she would say "you like my pu**y?" and "I want your di*k" was...different...

Afterwards, we cuddled, sipped more wine, and listened to her describe her journey that led her to the USA. We were both getting tired, but decided to go one more round before we went to sleep. I told her I had to leave somewhat early in the morning because I had to be home in time for the coaching calls I had with my guys. She understood, so we went to bed, woke up early, got everything cleaned up, and checked out.

I drove her home, kissed her goodbye, dropped her off, then raced home in time for my Zoom calls.

She's quite sweet and lacks the entitlement that most American women have. She was very thankful and appreciative of everything I did; everything from booking the room, to picking her up, to dropping her off, to even offering her water in bed after the sex. She was planning to take the public transport back to her host family's place, and didn't even hassle me for a ride - I had to insist. But as far as seeing her in the future, I won't be booking hotel rooms regularly and traveling several hours for sex, and she physically cannot do so because she doesn't have access to a car. She didn't seem expectant of the future, and simply appreciated the fact that I had spent time with her. We'll see how that plays out in the future.

What's kinda fun lately is that, while I was getting off a 2-month dry spell only about a month ago, I am now having the opposite problem. Now there's this girl, the one from 102 in Philly who got me off that dry spell (who also wanted to see me last night, but I was just too tired to bother getting ready to have a whole night out), the one I slept with earlier this same morning, the one from 104 in Ocean City who wants me to visit and spend the weekend with her next weekend, and recently another plate who fell off, matched with me on Hinge, and is down to hang out once she gets back from California.

At first I was thirsty, but now I'm kinda drowning. I can't be too upset and take it for granted, because I know how quickly that can shift, but I find it interesting how quickly that problem solved itself.

As a side thought, one thing that I wish I had more of in my life, despite all these recent women, is that there aren't many "baddies" around. The women I see posting about their OnlyFans while living out in LA or Miami, I'd love access to those women (physically, not in terms of a relationship). Unfortunately, that's not a reality in Delaware. Makes me kinda wonder how well I'd do out there, considering the shortcoming that I do not have much money. Maybe that's something I'll run into when school's back in session and I can meet some of the college girls out here - assuming they don't all fall into the category of turning cold when they find out I'm older. Anyway...just some shower thoughts I wanted to share.

Hope everybody is enjoying their weekend.
Nice one! Always good when you want the same thing and she's nice about it.
 
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The read is everywhere and easily available, you are regurgitating what others have posted before. That's nothing new or original, its not a product difficult to obtain, which is the knowledge basically, the other part is the person. Your business is doomed to fail from the start.
Remember when we had the positive version of you from way back in this thread, before you got banned and when you weren't such a c*nt: https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/lets-change-the-world-seriously.283548/

Can we get that version back? This version sucks.
 

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I'm just being honest, I'm not attacting you, just your idea with my own bias and oponion. If you are starting you have to be ready for people to critize it. Maybe you'll be the next Kevin Samuels for all I know. Start filming yourself, appraching, making girls confortable and closing on numbers and more risky on kiss or other things, that is entertaining and can give men a idea how to interact. But also, there are other youtube guys doing the same so there is competition.
I keep telling @BPH to move to a place with more hot chicks.
 

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Agreed but to scale you need proof as @New_Journey said and that comes more easily with better abundance
Let's be real for a moment: what proof would be sufficient, where it's not putting out personally identifiable information on the girl?

People fake everything. There's not a single thing I could do where I couldn't think of there being a way to discredit it:
  • A literal sex tape?
    • One could say she was a hired escort
  • A text conversation?
    • That might just be your friend whom you saved in your contacts as a girl, complete with a script
  • An infield video?
    • PUAs fake that all the time by hiring models and actresses
There are some people whom I will never be able to convince. That is fine, just as with interested vs uninterested women, I'll focus on the people with open minds who want to improve.

I'll scale with a track record of success helping those who believe I can solve their problems - not the ones who are skeptical of my credentials.
 
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