"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Lowering your own interest level

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I'm curious, how most people maintain a low interest level to gain frame. Some ideas come to mind:

1. Focus on your mission

2. Spin plates

3. Some kind of meditation or prayer?

4. Spend time with the guys

5. Video games, entertainment, hobbies etc.

6. Self improvement

Am I missing anything?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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All the above. My interest level is mostly a reflection of the woman's interest level. If she has low interest in me, I have low interest in her. If her interest goes up, so does mine.
 

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All the above. My interest level is mostly a reflection of the woman's interest level. If she has low interest in me, I have low interest in her. If her interest goes up, so does mine.
Yes!!!, I'm only interested in ladies that are crazy about me. Anything less...I'm walking.
 

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I don't think there is anything wrong in having high-interest.

The real problem is scarcity.

Pretty much all of men's problems come from laziness and/or fear. Not from having high-interest.
Yes, I've been balancing scarcity (absence vs presence) for awhile now. It's good way to generate respect. I figure if ladies are busy missing me, the beta/orbiters have no chance. I may be a little too scarce, though. Rare.... there's a word!!!
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Zero Fuks Given mentality
I actually do give a fuk... just about important things only. Every thing else is trivial, and not worth my time. Categories!
 

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I take the opposite approach--I could give a sh1t how much interest a girl has in me. The only thing that matters to me is how much interest I have in the girl. The more interest I have, the more engaged/motivated I'll be, and (usually) the better the result will be.

There seems to be a misconception, probably based on the principle that 'whoever cares least controls the relationship,' that interest level can't be mutually high. But interest level =/= investment =/= attachment =/= loss of frame (at least it shouldn't).

But your frame is fvcked from the get-go...you're looking at things from the frame of: how can I make this girl more interested in me? She's already the prize--but you're looking for ways to act like she's less of the prize, which reinforces the frame that she is the prize. You thus cannot be high interest because you might 'lose' her.

Try approaching things from the mindset of: How can I make this more interesting for me? (since we often give girls too much credit for whatever idealization we project on them, it's helpful to be consciously aware of this process). Or on an even bigger picture: What can I do right now to make my life more awesome? Prioritize respectively.
 

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I'm curious, how most people maintain a low interest level to gain frame. Some ideas come to mind:

1. Focus on your mission

2. Spin plates

3. Some kind of meditation or prayer?

4. Spend time with the guys

5. Video games, entertainment, hobbies etc.

6. Self improvement

Am I missing anything?
If your overanalyzing your "interest" level you probably are over interested. It means you need to do some more self centered and vain activities that focus on you. Each of these bullet points would be taking care of self.
 

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For me I have always been one with a lot of self control and a huge believer in the one who cares the least has the most power. This is what keeps me focused on the mission of getting what I want. I’ve got a girl now that I really like but its her job to fall for me first and its happening. It’s the only way to be successful. So in the meantime, I stay busy with my hobbies, talking to other girls, and working out.
 

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I don't think there is anything wrong in having high-interest.
The real problem is scarcity.
Pretty much all of men's problems come from laziness and/or fear. Not from having high-interest.
Do you think its because scarcity keeps them wondering what you are up to when you aren't with them? We all want what we can't have! And the more scarce something is, the higher regarded.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Do you think its because scarcity keeps them wondering what you are up to when you aren't with them? Creates anxiety in their mind?
Absence makes the heart grow fonder. We've all heard it. But, do we practice it?
 

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If your overanalyzing your "interest" level you probably are over interested. It means you need to do some more self centered and vain activities that focus on you. Each of these bullet points would be taking care of self.
To be honest... so much sh!t has happened to me in the past few months... surgery (bone graft), got into a fight (I live on the streets), grand mother died, good friends/girls that I won't see again leaving, I feel as if I've been knocked off my horse. I think, I need to refocus and prioritize.

Btw, overanalyzing is not all bad, I triple check things and make sure. I want to take into account any details that I may have missed. Call it ... error correction.
 
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I'm curious, how most people maintain a low interest level to gain frame.
Ironically, inherent in the act of attempting to lower your interest level, you have already lost frame. You place needless importance upon her, so much so, that you feel the need to consciously fight your own IL to her elevated "image." This is akin to saying I have a $1 million in front of me; how could I attempt to lower my IL toward the money?

This all about your value relative to hers:

1) Realize that you are worth $1 Bil so the $1 mil pales in comparison; or

2) Realize you don’t have $1 mil in front of you.
 

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Beat off any time that you know you are going to be with her, in advance, if possible.. ;) You don't want to beat off in front of her because it not only shows high interest, but can be super awkward....lol
All kidding aside, any time I'm thinking about contacting some she-wolf that is likely going to either turn me down or run me through the wringer just for her giving me some attention, I try to test fire my gun. Nothing lowers my interest level faster than being in a I-just-now-ejaculated mindset. There's your frame, boys. :D
 

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LOL, I'm ghosting this chick again till she starts stalking me again (took her a month and a half, last time)... this time it's not going to be so easy for her. Maybe I'll let her wine me, and dine me! LOL!!! Yes, I'll have the ribeye, medium rare!

what was that movie? The tao of steve?

be excellent, be gone!!!
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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