Lower Pouch - Who Seriously Got Rid Of It?

[JT7890]

Okay quick question for the community here. Okay, I want to hear from REAL guys who have had REAL RESULTS with getting that lower pouch from the bottom of your stomach.

My upper body is great, body fat is low, diet couldn't be better, but this lower pouch is still there. If I "get my bodyfat" any lower I would be malnutrition.

How do you really get rid of this? Lower ab exercises, good diet, low bodyfat percentage, I'M THERE, and it still hasn't gotten rid of it.

Seriously, I want to hear from guys who have actually gotten it removed from their lower abs not from guys reading Muscle and Fitness and copying a paragraph or two. Don't mean to sound harsh but this is just frustrating as hell.

 

[JT7890]

And oh yeah, I already know about the lower ab exercises. I do leg raises and alot of other ab exercises including bikes, upper, etc.

I have even been doing the ab vacuum exercises where you suck in for a period of seconds. STILL isn't working.

Something is wrong here. Again, I want to talk to guys who actually have this removed. Everywhere I search on the net it's some canned answer about dieting, for the life of me, I can't eat any damn cleaner.

 

[GoodButNotGreat]

hmmm...im in the same boat. working out alot, super clean eatng.. so far people have told me to avoid bread, and to not consume carbs near bedtime.

 

[Rho]

^in my experience I cannot seem to lose weight on a regular diet, I need to severely cut back carbs to almost zero and even then I have to keep my calories very low (1500-2000) to see any results. Im at roughly 13-14%bf down from 19% 2 months ago.

Even though my abs dont show yet, there could be something in that for you?

 

[Jitterbug]

It's the very last place in your body (as a male) for fat to go.

I've seen very few naturals manage it.

 

[Noodles]

My upper body is great, body fat is low, diet couldn't be better, but this lower pouch is still there. If I "get my bodyfat" any lower I would be malnutrition.

How do you really get rid of this? Lower ab exercises, good diet, low bodyfat percentage, I'M THERE, and it still hasn't gotten rid of it.

How are you measuring your bodyfat?
What's you height, age and weight?
What's your waist size?
Can you show us an average example of your 'good diet' for a day?
What kind of weekly exercises do you perform?

Without that information you're not going to get anything but guess work.

 

[JT7890]

Noodles so far nobody has provided anything but guess work and lingo. I can post all of that but I really want to know how to really get rid of it. Most of these guys are just going to give some off the wall shyt.

Point blank, lol, WHO has gotten rid of it? WHO? If YOU DID, what specifically, step by step specifically, DID you do?

 

[Mantis Toboggan]

Noodles so far nobody has provided anything but guess work and lingo. I can post all of that but I really want to know how to really get rid of it. Most of these guys are just going to give some off the wall shyt.

Point blank, lol, WHO has gotten rid of it? WHO? If YOU DID, what specifically, step by step specifically, DID you do?

Well if you're going to discredit most of the guys on here, then it seems like a strange place to come for advice doesn't it?

"Hey IDIOTS, help me out!" - you

 

[Onlyliveonce]

Protein shake with fish oil at bedtime. No pasta breads of any sort. Increase water intake and run as much as you can. You energy will be low but fight through it.
If you're anything like me your body fat won't dissipate for at least two weeks. Then it will draw energy from the last fat store men usually have, the lower stomach area.

 

[JT7890]

Onlylive, so do you think it should be more of an increased Cardio (maybe HITT) combined with a starvation mode?

Here's what I understand, I understand that the lower belly area is one of the last places the fat comes off.

But, IF I bump up fat burning strategies such as reduced calories and increased exercise, from what I understand the body still determines where the fat is reduced at.

How do I stir the body in a way to get the fat off the lower belly area? I don't want to have to get down to 5% bodyfat or something before it finally starts to hit the lower belly area.

Did that question make sense?

 

[PDubb75]

While the lower stomach is the last place you lose fat from (for some people), you CAN NOT pin point specific areas to lose fat. You can't just say "I want everything else to stay as is, but lose 2" from my thighs". Anyone who tells you differently is greatly confused.

No exercise or diet change is going to tell your body to only look at a specific body part to pull energy from. Maybe it's just me, but thinking of it that way makes it sound like a silly question.

When you do specific exercises, the movement doesn't "melt fat away" in the targeted area. It works the muscles in that area. The body then uses it's stored energy (fat) to rebuild. But it doesn't care (nor can it) where it gets the energy from.

Everyone's body is different and reacts to exercise/diet differently. So, the reason you have a 'pouch', while someone else doesn't, isn't because you forgot to do a specific exercise. If you want that pouch gone, you will need to drop fat%.

 

[Noodles]

Noodles so far nobody has provided anything but guess work and lingo. I can post all of that but I really want to know how to really get rid of it. Most of these guys are just going to give some off the wall shyt.

Point blank, lol, WHO has gotten rid of it? WHO? If YOU DID, what specifically, step by step specifically, DID you do?

Well...I joined the Marines and spent 9 years eating 5000kcals a day in rations. I doubt that appeals to everyone.

But, IF I bump up fat burning strategies such as reduced calories and increased exercise, from what I understand the body still determines where the fat is reduced at.

How do I stir the body in a way to get the fat off the lower belly area? I don't want to have to get down to 5% bodyfat or something before it finally starts to hit the lower belly area.

Bump up? As I said - you haven't told us what you do now. You haven't told us how you're measuring bodyfat for instance. I doubt, for instance, that you're less than 10% bodyfat - despite what you think.

But, as with some people, you may only be able to get a four pack. For some people, their genetics will only let them get a six or eight pack with twice daily exercising and an incredibly well tailored diet.

But that's a very small percentage of people. And without knowing what you're doing I doubt you come into that category. I imagine you're not eating as well as you think and not exercising as hard as you could.

I mean if you can't be arsed to supply the information, what else should we think?

 

[Midnight_Oil]

Diet and exercise.

I went from 245 (40" pants) to 175 (32") back to 205 (33") now.

I'm 5'8"

Obviously you not as thin as you think.

 

[Fuglydude]

Okay quick question for the community here. Okay, I want to hear from REAL guys who have had REAL RESULTS with getting that lower pouch from the bottom of your stomach.

My upper body is great, body fat is low, diet couldn't be better, but this lower pouch is still there. If I "get my bodyfat" any lower I would be malnutrition.

How do you really get rid of this? Lower ab exercises, good diet, low bodyfat percentage, I'M THERE, and it still hasn't gotten rid of it.

Seriously, I want to hear from guys who have actually gotten it removed from their lower abs not from guys reading Muscle and Fitness and copying a paragraph or two. Don't mean to sound harsh but this is just frustrating as hell.

Here ya go:

http://s102.photobucket.com/albums/m91/Treydesmon/

Pics when I was the leanest I was sitting around 165 at 5'8".

Diet:

Eat clean w/ 3-4 cheat meals per week. Primarily lived on protein sources: meat, whey, MRP w/ fruits and veges as my primary source of carbs. Really limited consumption of bread and milk products.

Training:

3-4 days a week of weights. Low reps, heavy weights, sticking to big compound movements. Trained abs w/ every weight session.

Cardio:

3-4 shows a week (10-20 minutes each), aggressive sex sessions (4-5/week) and the occasional treadmill session (30-40 minutes).

Supplements:

- Multi
- EFA
- Whey isolate
- MRP
- Pre-WO stuff
- Fat burner pre-WO.

Drugs:

- Testosterone Enanthate 250 mg/week IM
- Trenbolone enanthate 150 mg/week IM
- Occasional use of clenbuterol (never more than 120 mcg/day)

good luck.

 

[Onlyliveonce]

JT7890 No need to starve yourself, don't do that, your body will go into starvation mode and cling to the last fat stores(lower abs). Just replace the last meal of day, usually just before bed with a protein shake. The fish oil does something to my body which helps me get rid of fat, I'm not sure why but it worked for me.
I took two fish oil tabs with vitamins along with protein shake before bed and the weight dropped. I went from 235 down to 202 in three months. I ran two miles a day three days a week and lifted twice. I ate nuts every day along with fruit and meats four times a week. Red meet just once, the other days chicken with veggies.

 

[shizz702]

I got really lean doing a cyclical keto diet where I just did high protein/high fat/low carb 6 days a week, and carbed up and had some cheats one day a week. It got me to the 12% mark or so where my serratus and upper abs were visible. Up to that point I did no cardio. To get to the next level of leanness I started hitting cardio on my off days from the weights and cleaned up my carb up day. Doing all this took me from a 38" waist to a 32" in a few months. Losing weight is easy, gaining mass is the hard part.

 

[Pimp-sicle]

You know I started posting a long @ss reply to help the OP and it got deleted when my computer froze.

BUT, now that I think about it, rather than re-type it all, I'm going to call out the OP.

As others have mentioned, you say your bf % is low, you say your diet is perfect and you say your workouts are dialed in. Yet you can't get rid of the pooch?

Want to know why?

Well its easy, its simply because what you think is dialed in, IS NOT!

Unless you answer our questions, how the hell are we suppose to help you. With all respect, we got dudes like Fugly who I respect greatly giving you bomb advice, but he's cycling right now. We got other giving you generic cookie cutter advice trying to help, BUT the simple fact is the plan needs to individualized to YOU, based on your dietary habits, sleep cycle, water intake etc which all have an effect on body composition.

Please post:

1) Current bf% and how you tested it

2) Current diet, with macro break-downs.

3) How often you adjust, tweak calories, macros etc

4) Water intake, sleep pattern

5) Outline of your workout routine


The answer lies in the above, if you can help US, help you, then great. If you want to be narrow minded and think you have your bases covered then don't bother replying.


I'm sitting at 7.8% bf right now, caliper tested, so obviously not as accurate as hydrostatic. In any regard I'm well under 10%. Currently on a bulk, so I expect the number to get down to low 7% or 6% when I get to where I want to be.





PIMP

 

[JT7890]

Here's a good example of what I eat in a 24 hour time period:


1.) Meal

- Baked Chicken Breast or 2 Whole Baked Wings

- Wheat Bread

- Green Beans or Corn or Other Veggie

- 3 Bottles of Water


Wait about 5 - 6 hours


2.) Another Meal with similar structure. I might use Fish and Shrimp (baked) in place of the chicken.


Wait about 5-6 hours


3.) Body Fortress Protein Shake


I am up around the clock. I am using either in the office or when I'm at home I'm doing homework or research for work projects. So I don't go to sleep at a set time, but on average I might sleep for around 6 hours or so in a 24 hour time period.


I workout about 6 or 8 times a month from home as well. I do alot of pushups, ab related exercises, and the rest I do with strength bands from BodyLastics.

 

[JT7890]

Supplements are just Green Tea Extract, Omega 3s, and Men's Multi-Vitimans from Vitamin World

 

[nmartinez12443]

No Wonder

Honestly, I am no internet wiz, but if you look around every person looking to go below 10% bf or get a 8 pack, will tell you to EAT EVERY 6 hours.

Mistake #1- Your meals are too big.
Mistake #2- Your meals have too much time in between them.
Mistake #3- Your meals stink.
Mistake #4- Your sleep is not on point you NEED 8 hours.
Mistake #5- Your workouts stink. (bench/shoulder press/squat/deadlift/curls/etc) compound movements 3 times a week and do cardio after and cardio three other days.
Mistake #6- Not being serious

1. Berries/Whey with milk / Oatmeal/Green Mag/ Multi/2 fish Oil(6:30)
2. Tuna/Spinach (8:00)
3.Egg Whites/Protein Bar (10:00 am)
4. Chicken Breast/Spinach/Berries/Jerky (12:15 am)
5. Tuna/Whey w/water,Oatmeal/Preworkout (3:20)
(Post Workout)-Whey with 1 % milk/Berries/Fish Oil/Almonds (7:30)
6. Chicken breast/ green vegetables (8:00)
7. Protein shake with water/Tuna/Multi (10:00)
8. Middle of Night (Whey Water) (2:00 am)