Love Thy Game (Long Read)

[Snow Plowman]

Ever decided to start offering more value in this forum as I'm starting to see that there are actually guys on this site who are out there gaming and not just a sh!tload of KBJ debaters logically explaining sh!t based off maybe what other people have said but having no actual experiences in field to back up what the hell there saying.

So without any interuptions...

Game, its something you must have a passion for. To me its like Food. I love food and I live for the thrill of trying new food and everything about food. Without passion in this game you will get NO WHERE Why?
- Because you won't stick to it
- Because you will make excuses
- Because you will try to play it safe
- Because you will not do this HARDCORE

Note - I know there are some guys who do very little approaches but are atleast out there actually trying


If you love the GAME though why...
- Do you not stick to it?
- Do you not go out a sh!tload? (Any free time or chance that you have)
- Do you sit on a seduction forum and want to read about other people's sucess and life story without creating your own also to share?
- Do you make excuses
- Do you want to stick in your comfort zone
- Do you not have the passion and enthusiasm?

Few things I want to say before getting deep into this is...
- This is about Improving "WHO YOU ARE" not about pulling chicks
- STOP STOP STOP and I repeat STOP focusing on getting one specific girl if you haven't even got the skills to consistently get women in general
- Go Out, stop sitting around reading tons of material and start having some nice adventures to comeback and talk about so you can inspire the newbies coming in
- Let go of the OUTCOME and just have FUN. (To many guys are focused on getting a #, sex, kissing, etc so much that they forget to enjoy the whole process)

There are SO many guys who just want to go from Hi to a chick magically on his dik. This is what makes Pickup boring because your not focusing on the interaction for what it is. It's like getting knocked out, you said "Hi" then woke up and realized the chick is on your dik, you have no clue how the interaction went. This is how most guys act because there So focused on getting sex that they aren't even in the moment.

For the KBJs
Why would you want to sit here, read about other guys having fun and having the time of there life, but not actually go out and do it for yourself? Trust me if you went out for a week straight you'd be thinking "Damn why didn't I start learning this earlier?"

For the record...this sh!t is FUN. I'm not actually talking about sex because heck that will happen so I don't need to focus on that, but I'm talking about the whole Interaction.

You don't know how a set will turn out or what will happen and this is what brings excitement and fun. It's like your sitting in a venue and you just fuking you can turn into like some Social Hero and bring all this positive emotions into the world. Whether or not a set goes good or bad it has no affect on you because this sh!t is too much fun that you can't even stop to think about the rejection. Your just having the time of your life, testing sh!t out, having fun, and make the women's day Different than the regular boring stuff she does in her life.

When I was going out 5-6 days a week when I first started, this sh!t was too much FUN. To the point where just interacting with people could've taken over my life. I couldn't sit home because I still had all the excitement from everything that I've been doing. It turned me into a maniac. (In a good way)

It started causing me to dance to the radio while in line, to sit in booths with random chicks when eating and just mess with them, to walk up to chicks and eat there food out of there hand...or have them feed me. To build and create a huge social energy that just sucked people in and caused a great interaction. (You know when the VIBE is SUPER CRAZY when no one can breath from laughter)

Everything that didn't help me as far as game went was IRRELEVANT
- Who cares if I'm not rich or good looking
- Who cares if there is a BF there
- Who cares if her friend is there
- Who cares if its quiet/crowded and I approach the chick
- Who cares...
- Who cares...

That sh!t is irrelevant becuase I dictate what I want to do and what emotions I want to give. I don't care if the chick is eating or has her Ipod on I'm going in and talking to her...EVERY EXCUSE IS IRRELEVANT.

Game became this big FUN thing that I could do for free. I could be low on cash, depressed in every area of my life but I always knew I could always go for a walk and have a great time meeting people because each time it was a new adventure.

I remember the first time I noticed this...

Saga of the Working Girls
...I remember a 4set of working girls who were on there lunch break. I could've easily made excuses
- They look like there busy (My target was writing something)
- There is no where for me to sit (There is already 4 people, one who hasn't sat yet)
- I'll get kicked out for bothering them
- I don't know what to say

You get the point, but no fuk all that there is no need to have any excuses because at this time I was starting to realize how much fun I could have. I go in...don't even know WTF I'm going to say, I didn't think about nothing. I say "Hey"...

...my target says "ha, What is this? What is going on?" (Easily a congruence test) Now some people would turn around, walk off and say they failed. Not me, this sh!t is too much fun to have a response from a chick effect me and also I'm not making her take the frame like that.

I immediately take back the frame "Who's the love letter for". She blabs about her writing to her gf and just catching up on things. At this point I'm playing around imitating what the letter might say...BOOM its on. I sit down BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, kino is going, Fun Fun Fun, I get up at a high note and go to the 4th girl and tell her for now on she will be my personal cook. I go back in talk to them for a bit. I then realize I had all my friends in shock and also they wanted to bail...WHY?

Because they were bored. I was having fun interacting with these chicks haveing FUN. They were bored watching me and not interacting with no chicks and so they wanted to leave. While they are cool guys they don't know how to approach and most are uptight about cold approaching. Heck they could've come in set and have fun.

Part 2...coming later today

 

[ducaro]

part 2???!!! NOOO.. i fell asleep!!

 

[KarmaSutra]

Dicaru, you are one of the most childish turds to come around here in a long time. Take your Geritol smoothie, go to dinner at noon and drive your Hovaround into a lake.

It's a good thing noone takes you or your bullsh!t seriously. For an old geezer you'd think you'd want to be taken as a mentor instead of a flake trying to play off a "cool guy" vibe, which you are neither.

Go fvck yourself gramps. If you aren't here to help anyone, one wonders why you are? Oh, attention. Like a woman.

 

[KarmaSutra]

There are SO many guys who just want to go from Hi to a chick magically on his dik. This is what makes Pickup boring because your not focusing on the interaction for what it is. It's like getting knocked out, you said "Hi" then woke up and realized the chick is on your dik, you have no clue how the interaction went. This is how most guys act because there So focused on getting sex that they aren't even in the moment.

This is the crux of your post. Bottom line, guys don't want to put forth the effort to achieve thier goals. Hence, the reliance on "gurus'" and pickup lines.

 

[ducaro]

Dicaru, you are one of the most childish turds to come around here in a long time. Take your Geritol smoothie, go to dinner at noon and drive your Hovaround into a lake.

It's a good thing noone takes you or your bullsh!t seriously. For an old geezer you'd think you'd want to be taken as a mentor instead of a flake trying to play off a "cool guy" vibe, which you are neither.

Go fvck yourself gramps. If you aren't here to help anyone, one wonders why you are? Oh, attention. Like a woman.

*****! stop whining! 'karmasutra' - what are you a condom?

 

[Snow Plowman]

Part 2

As I started going more and more to that same place I started playing around and having more fun. Testing out social proof, giving more attention to one chick more than the other. One point I actually got My Target to move from her post right in front of her manager just to try the food she just made for me and she never used no knife or anything she just bit it like we were a couple. The sexual tension was HIGHER than a rough sex porno clip...it was so on. I constantly kept getting more and more creative, sometimes I'd instadate chicks to the story, or maybe game other chicks who come to buy food from there. It was a big ass sandlot of me just creating all this FUN stuff.

Love Thy Game

The reason why I say love the game is because if you don't then you won't get far and you'll get frustrated. All you'll be thinking about is SEX. Now I'm not saying to don't head towards sex but don't be having a great interaction and in the back of your head your like "Damn when am I going to feel that breast? When are we going to ****?" Just roll with it lead the interaction towards sex but don't be affected as to whether or not you get the outcome.

If your not having fun, then your not going to be willing to be creative and test things out. Your not going to want to go out alot and interact with people. Your generally not going to be able to get the specific girl that you want because...You don't have massive field experience.

I've talked to guys who've been in this for MANY years diking around barely doing any approaches and surely was never having fun. An it was like a constant struggle there was never no happy times for him learning this. Then you have other guys who see this as FUN and every chance they get they want to go out. They want to go talk to chicks and they are doing it constantly and constantly. These are the guys who actually get good.

If your not Passionately having fun then your not going to get far. The way I like to think of it is that the chicks just love getting to know you so present your personality to her and everyone will have a great time.

Don't Dik Around

It's really straightforward, if your not approaching any chicks then start doing it and have fun with it. Stop being uptight, serious, nervous, all in your head. Just go out and do it.

It mindboggles me how a man could have some chick who happen to look very sexy have him all nervous and uptight. Like serious why would you be scared to fuk things up and watching what you say or do in front of her. You surely wouldn't do that with your little 5 year old sister. Or your Cat.

Alot of guys frames are weak and there Identity is like a leaf in the Fall...he goes in opens chick ignores and his leaf falls off the tree and now he is all down and feels deflated because he got so called rejected.

You have to be like a fuking tree though not a damn leaf...You know who you are and you have a strong frame. Wind can't topple you over unless its some big Hurricane (A threat to your survival) coming in to sweep you off your feet.

Really sit there and think about it...A chick with big breast showing cleavage with some sexy thong showing through her white skirt. Your scared to go talk to her and her hot girl friends because of whatever reason. You've already betrayed your identity because here it is you gave all your power away and now you are dicated by the chicks responses. If she yells at you, you feel down and if she is friendly you feel content but yet still threading water because your trying to stay in as long as possible...but some eject to come and say "I could've fuked her, I just didn't want to ask for the #" or "I didn't want to sit down and eat with them"

Don't let chicks frame control you and you basically throwing away your identity and taking on what ever she has set for you. A perfect example of this is when a chick basically says a congrunece test or anything to throw you off and you were in the middle of something and all of a sudden you stop and say "What?" or trying to respond to what she just said.

Example
Back when I was starting out I started getting a serious congruence test that kept throwing me off. I'd go in open pretty direct "Hey your fuking gorgerous" or "Hey your kind of cute I had to come meet you". Now there were a few MILFs I approached who quickly took the frame and I basically betrayed my identity. The general responses were

- I'm too old for you
- Hey first of all don't touch behind me like that
- I admire your courage (Lmao, my facial expresion was PRICELESS it was sort of the "WTF, admire my courage? It didn't take no courage to approach you, WTF is she saying" look lmao. Up to this day I wish I had a picture of it because I was about to tease on her for saying that)

After awhile I got passed that to the point where there was one chick who would always making a wierd face, say "Okkkk" or just say "Whatttt??" and that sh!t didn't affect me to the point where I didn't even realize that chicks gave any negative responses. Eventually those negatives comments turned into laughter and the "Wow" (fascination) as if how the hell did I think of all that gibberish lol.


Overall
- Have love for the Game. You must love the whole process, the good and bad
- Approaching is one of the most FUN things that you can ever do and its free
- You must go out and get massive Field Experience especially if your new. You can't be approaching 1-2 girls a day expecting to see improvement from the week before. More like 10-20 a day depend on the length of each interaction.
- Whatever doubts, excuses or shortcomings that you have is IRRELEVANT, just go out there and have fun
- STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP....STOP focusing on trying to get the chick that works down the block from walmart who works in the backroom on mondays and tuesdays. Learn to actually get women consistently and what I mean by that is...Majority of your interactions go well. That means them having a great time, getting there #, sex, dating them, kissing, etc. Few of them you end up dating and having sex with because its almost impossible to have sex with the sh!tloads of women that you approach. Eventually you will get to the point where if you lose a girl you can go out that same day and find a new girl or if you see a SPECIFIC girl you will know exactly what to do and you will most likely end up having a great time with her
- Go out, be creative, test stuff out
- Ultimately HAVE FUN, if you don't you will never love this and you won't enjoy everything about it.

As I draw near to closure...I can't stress how fun getting blownout is. Even though I rarely get any bad blowouts anymore. But back when I did or when I test out stuff where I ended up hesistating or something fuked up, it always turns into funny stuff...
- Back when I first started learning this and thought I was going to be some big PIMP. Started doing C&F on some worker girl. Chick gives me extra food to give her cousin. I basically had to act like I was on a date with her and sit with her. I blew myself out in so many ways...Nervous, uptight, couldn't eat in front of her, was shaking, didn't speak for 5mins, tried for rapport and tried to force commonalites which she said was all boring, she asking me why am I nervous LMAO. I thought cold approaching was turkey shoot when I first started out because hey I was getting chicks before...IN MY SOCIAL CIRCLE that is lol.

- Open a 3set and chick stops and goes "Hold up What the hell are you trying to say?" I don't even know if it was good or bad because yea I got the set to stop and also what I was saying was basically "Hey um, yea my friend, I need to ask you, he wanted to get to" (Yes I said something very similar in that wording) Which I then think of the lamest thing in the world "My friend wants to talk to you" lmao.

- Sitting down eating, friend sees a chick walk by in the window..."OMG Snow plowman did you see her!!" I couldn't take that I missed her so I go out the store run down 2 blocks LMAO and open which I blow myself out in about 2mins by asking her if she has a BF. lol.

- Testing out over the shoulder opening and a lame ass opener. As I walk ahead of the chick its damn well obvious I'm about to approach lol. I open and she doesn't even acknowledge me LMAO. I actually laughed while standing there because the sh!t was comedy to me.

There were countless others but this is just an example. I've messed up many sets but at the end of the day I was able to laugh about it and it added to the fun.

 

[Randallpink83]

Awesome stuff man! Really love the attitude!

LOVE THE GAME!!

This is what I'm looking for, others guys who are hitting it hardcore :rockon:

I'm a fvcking riderrrrr!

 

[Snow Plowman]

Finally someone that encompasses how I feel about the game, lol I have a gf but that doesn't stop me approaching with me mates .
This friday night ill share with you our approaches haha.
Gold!

lol, and you my friend are what I consider a cool guy and not a Pickup lame. There are too many guys who waste there time trying to get one specific girl and then stop gaming altogether. It's almost like "Why did you waste your time learning pickup if you were only planning on getting ONE girl?" and so they would stop going to clubs or hanging with there friends because THEY HAVE A GIRL NOW. lol.

So I'm glad to see your still out there having fun despite having a gf already, this is what all guys who have gfs and are learning pickup should do. Even if your not going to fuk the girls atleast keep building your social skills, because when your girl leaves you depending on how far you've got as far as improving your game will determine if you have to start off from square one again or if your pretty rusty.

Just imagine you want to learn this, get a girl 2 months in and just stop everything. It's like working out for 2 months realizing you can see a bit of abs and just stop. Why'd you even waste the time to do all of that.

I'm glad there are guys out there who LOVE THE GAME!