So there is this girl that i have known for a while, but we never talk of anything not even really friends, i just knew her. Anyway i bumped into her at work hit it off. We were both hanging out with friends that night, but decided she would text me and we would try and meet up. nothing came of it and i decided to ask her for coffee. She said she couldn't and had legitiment excuses. it was just over christmass so she was busy and was working lots due to her new car she just bought. At first i was discouraged because she kept saying she was busy. the next night after i asked her out again, she texted me and we hit it off for hours till late just texting. I told her she had kept me up long enough and i had to go. the next day stupidly i texted her again this is where i think i screwed up, but anyway we texted for a few hours every twenty or minuites or so sending a new text. later that night i called her but no answer. another mistake i know but i am new at this and was unaware. the next day i texted again and waited a few hours with no response untill i saw her online. i started messaging her saying whats up with her. I asked her why she was not responding to my texts. she said she doesnt have her phone all the time. I was mad because she hadn't been texting me back and i wanted to get to the bottom of it. I pushed the issue and she got all defensive asking me why I was acting like we are together. I told her that i wasn't but i am confused why she is telling me she wants to go on a date and all excited texting me one second and than not returning my texts the next. I said I don't need any girl leading me on or playing games. she said she wasn't leading me on that she was texting as a friend. (****) So i said i think your just having second thoughts thats ok i got to go. i later texted her with a couple funny lines, making her laugh, saying that i didn't mean to freak out, but i didn't appoligise. i have not talked to her since its the second day now how should i continue, is this salvagable. i think i lost value because i showed too much intrest to fast. I know this is long thankyou for taking your time to read it.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
lost value on her eyes is it to late, just met her
- Thread starter Snowman
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
1. Paragraphs brother paragraphs (learn how to use them) 
She does not deserve that much of your time for you to be spending hours texting her. In fact NO WOMAN deserves that much unless you're already banging her.
Talking to a woman for so long when she hasn't even gone out with you is a recipe for disaster.
Then you ask her why she hasn't responded to you which made you look needy.
You mentioned that you're just starting out and that's ok. When most start out they do the same thing they think they will win a woman's heart by essentially chasing her around. This only pushes women away.
Hopefully you learned your lesson and the next girl you want to seduce you keep texting to a minimum to not ruin your chances again.
Why are you talking to this girl so much? What has she done to earn YOUR TIME? Isn't your time valuable? Do you just give your time away to girls that deny you coffee dates? Do you have such low respect for yourself?
She does not deserve that much of your time for you to be spending hours texting her. In fact NO WOMAN deserves that much unless you're already banging her.
Talking to a woman for so long when she hasn't even gone out with you is a recipe for disaster.
This makes you look creepy. Waiting for her to go online and jumping at the chance to talk to her the moment you see her online.
Then you ask her why she hasn't responded to you which made you look needy.
You mentioned that you're just starting out and that's ok. When most start out they do the same thing they think they will win a woman's heart by essentially chasing her around. This only pushes women away.
Hopefully you learned your lesson and the next girl you want to seduce you keep texting to a minimum to not ruin your chances again.
Check out the link in my signature (the 2 strikes rule). Give her another chance to go out with you but NEXT her if she doesn't compli. Frankly the hours you spend talking to her on a cell could be spent pursuing other women. You don't want to waste your hours feeding no woman's ego that isn't willing to spend time with you alone.Snowman said:
"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.