"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Losing the V-Card.

runningonice

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What's the most efficient way to lose the V-card with a girl that isn't an escort, UG, fattie, or girl that is not your type at all? By efficient, I don't mean "putting in no work." I mean, hang out with 2 or 3 times, seducing, and sex taking place.

I'm very good at getting "right to the point" when I hang out with a girl. I've found, however, that regardless of where you meet a girl with online dating, they're all pretty much the same (the decent looking ones anyway) and are more serious/not fun, just all business, looking for Mr. AFC Husband, so usually I just tell them that's not what I'm looking for and end the date right there.

So where, other than bars and clubs (I live in nowheresville, just a few ethnic and white trash bars/clubs) would I meet the type of woman that would be likely to put out after a few hangouts and not think much of it and not get all serious on me?

Like I said, I'm willing to do the work (the seduction part) I'm just not willing to lie to a girl and say I want an LTR, f*** her and then ignore her. I'm one of those unfortunately who was born with a conscience, and also want a woman that loves sex anyway and is going to have fun.

I want no part of an LTR or anything resembling an LTR, so just conventionally going AFC, going on dates, then hoping she wants to have sex isn't what I'm looking for.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Real Talk

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Well if there was a consistently easy way to do what you're asking, I doubt anybody would have a girlfriend.

aaanyway. getting laid can definitely be done in one night.

from experience the "easiest" thing I can think of is go to out clubbing with your friends and have your female friends bring their friends. Get some of that liquid courage (alcohol) in you. If everyone gets drunk and its a sh*t show the odds are better. Have a good time and don't worry about it too much. Given equal ratios, If you're decently cool guy there's about a 60% chance you go home with one of the friends. the % kind of scales with how cool you are and how dtf she is in general. But its pretty high, just cause you pretty much have multiple wing men and your female friend already has qualified you to her. Just determine your target and start dancing with them or whatever.

For me it usually was the difference between a good night out and a "whatever/ok" one, heh. I have a gf now though
 

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in order for a girl to get laid, it is a choice, in order for us guys to get laid, it is a chore, and luck and chance
 

Diaforetikos

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In the manner in which your speaking, getting a girl who just wants sex is purely based on chance. Taking the steps to get there still follows the same process that is elaborated within these forum walls.

It is still about basic attraction and inner game. But finding the right girl is task all it's own. It's a numbers game. You have to filter through the sand to find the gold underneath. It takes time, but you will find what you are looking for. Once you have located your hearts desire, follow the tips and advice given throughout the forum.

For a less time consuming task, follow the advice given previoulsy by your peer. He stated that by inviting your female friend, and her friends, to an eventful evening, that your goal could be aquired with more ease. But with this choice of action means you would have to sacrifice a part of yourself. Par of your mindset. Easy things don't come without a price.

Good luck mate.


***WARNING***
The lose of your virginity is quite a rememberable moment. Choose your tango-ee wisely, or you may regret it for the rest of your life.
 

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Diaforetikos said:
***WARNING***
The lose of your virginity is quite a rememberable moment.
Lines like this are why I keep coming back.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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playergamehater

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Diaforetikos said:
In the manner in which your speaking, getting a girl who just wants sex is purely based on chance. Taking the steps to get there still follows the same process that is elaborated within these forum walls.

It is still about basic attraction and inner game. But finding the right girl is task all it's own. It's a numbers game. You have to filter through the sand to find the gold underneath. It takes time, but you will find what you are looking for. Once you have located your hearts desire, follow the tips and advice given throughout the forum.

For a less time consuming task, follow the advice given previoulsy by your peer. He stated that by inviting your female friend, and her friends, to an eventful evening, that your goal could be aquired with more ease. But with this choice of action means you would have to sacrifice a part of yourself. Par of your mindset. Easy things don't come without a price.


Good luck mate.


***WARNING***
The lose of your virginity is quite a rememberable moment. Choose your tango-ee wisely, or you may regret it for the rest of your life.
I think what he means is that it is more of a choice for a girl because all girls have to do is welcome or reject advances, girls have all or most of the sexual power, they get to have the final say
 

Diaforetikos

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I made such a blatantly obvious statement due to the fact that the OP semed more focused on losing his V-card, instead of being focused on who it's with. He can let it be some dumb a** broad if he wants too. His choice, I'm just trying to give some sound advice.

And it's gonna take time for him to find some b!tch who just wants to fvck compared to finding someone who wants something serious, which is a lot easier.

Don't think me silly for pointing out the obvious. Sometimes people can't see the obvious.
 

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I care more about the physical attraction than anything else. I don't care if she's slept with 100 men, or isn't in love with me, or is just having sex for sport.

When you know what the game entails, and why women like certain men and give their hearts to certain men, you realize there is no such thing as true love. I'm not innocent myself...if I was dating a girl and she cut her hair short and put on 20 lbs, I wouldn't be "in love" with her anymore.

Young women, unfortunately, just as, if not more demanding. While some of them compromise in looks (many don't...most young women of any attraction level can be seen with a buff muscular guy where I live) all women want a guy with whatever their idea of a perfect personality is. And frankly, I'm happy with myself, and am not a robot that is able or wants to be "on" all the time.

I want to lose the V-card so I can demistify sex and say "Well I had sex with a woman I considered attractive without paying for it" and then move on with life. I had a HB gf, even if temporarily, I no longer crave that, now it's onto sex, so I can just move on.

My life is great. I just get the occasional "what's sex like" obsession especially after experiencing foreplay.
 

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It's really not a big deal, dude. My game didn't sky rocket at all once I lost the v-card. Women just became a little bit less mysterious.
 

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That's all I'm looking for. I'm not looking to be a pick-up artist or have great game. I'm just looking to get it over with without paying for it or having sex with an UG or fattie or girl that isn't my type at all.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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