"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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losing inner game on the 2nd phase

Black Widow Void

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I realize that women are more emotional than logic. Realizing this VS understanding or applying this to women is a difficult thing (at least for me). I could really use some tips either here with some web links.

I consider myself fortunate as to my ability to meet and attract women, but totally su*k when it comes to female rationalizations. If I’m right or wrong, I have absolutely no problem equally admitting either. If a woman has been good, I have no problem offering praise, but if there’s a problem and a woman claims to be blameless, I’m equally and sternly up front about her participation as well.

I get it… that I’m not making them “feel good” emotionally and consequently, they will sometimes pull away. If it’s possible, I’d like to find that “fine line” where my wording/attitude doesn’t cause their withdrawal, but at the same time maintain my frame.

“Spin more plates” seems to be the common reply, but this doesn’t address a pattern to which I seem to be creating. Also, the typical woman I’m out with is usually average to slightly above; meaning that they aren’t exactly high maintenance. spoiled, or with unlimited options as the HB 9's or 10's. There comes a time when a pattern occurs so often, that we can’t blame the other and have to work on our inner game. That’s why I’m posting.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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zekko

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Black Widow Void said:
I get it… that I’m not making them “feel good” emotionally and consequently, they will sometimes pull away. If it’s possible, I’d like to find that “fine line” where my wording/attitude doesn’t cause their withdrawal, but at the same time maintain my frame.
Unfortunately, you will find very little advice on this forum on how to make women "feel good" emotionally, unless it's by fvcking them hard.
 

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Dear Black Widow,
Rationalising Women,it's an oxymoron,an impossibility...don't even try it's a waste of time....how can you use logic against emotion?....Most of them are never wrong,just play along but do what you want to do anyway...as to making them feel good,you must frequently compliment their dress sense,hair,skin,shoes....agree with their take on "Issues"...serve them back the same opinions they have dished up,but package it slightly differently...in other words constantly massage their egos and placate their emotions...For your own needs,keep quality time for your mates,it's the only way to stay sane!
 

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Replying to this while I'm a bit drunk, so maybe I'm missing the point..

But in my estimation if you want them to stay around it's about balancing:

* Showing them attention, making them feel wanted and desired.

* Displaying 'positive masculinity.'

* An never, never stop gaming them.
 

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if there’s a problem and a woman claims to be blameless, I’m equally and sternly up front about her participation

It's yet another problem from taking a woman's words literally. You just can't do it.

Take any stupid thing any woman ever said and preface it with "I feel as though..." and it won't be stupid any more, it will actually be correct, because that is how she feels.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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