Looksmaxxing Goes Mainstream

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Oh my, and I thought I had the darkest outlook here! :eek: :eek:
No that you mention it, I left out a key portion of the adaptation
0:36-0:50

"Most Red Pillers on YouTube are guys who've spent the past two, or even three, decades slumming in lackluster marriages/LTRs... Their armchair theorizing on the nuances of life isn't worth whale sh-t. Fortune favors men who are out on the ground every day, taking practical action, and who aren't constantly overrun by their own emotions. Relations with the opposite sex are like everything else in life... You sometimes get results which are extraordinarily favorable, other times your returns are lackluster, and occasionally your outcomes are atrocious. None of it matters though... You move on to the next venture"

There's actually a wry optimism to such a worldview
 

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Genz and Gen A have normalized every red pill terminology and tactic
Or rehashing ones which aren't nearly as recent as we're so often led to believe https://www.fastcompany.com/1681417...-irresistible-marketing-machine-built-on-lust Quote: "Older Republic members have designated “trendslators,” fresh hires who can explain what’s on teens’ minds. And when these new pledges are brought in, they’re even shown an indoctrination film. It’s a classic clip from The Matrix, where the hero, Neo, is offered two pills–a blue one to preserve his ignorance, or a red one that will show him a new reality. Axe is the red pill" Note the date that article was written

And to what I'm sure will be to all of our shock and awe, as far back as '09, research has indicated that as aspects of what we today call "Looksmaxxing" really DOES enhance a fella's self-assurance https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/health/the-axe-effect-is-real/1880428/
 

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Every action induces a counter-action. If the Grunge aesthetic really did enjoy a resurgence in the later 10s and early 10s https://aesthetics.fandom.com/wiki/Grunge https://in.pinterest.com/pin/dark-grunge-aesthetic--344806915228110879/ , it was probably inevitable that being well-coiffed and fresh faced would also soon be embraced by many

Just as most women ain't Kate Moss or Jamie King, and thus can't rock heroin chic
for decades on end, most of us men aren't Dave Grohl, Rollo Tomassi, or Paul Elam... The dyspeptic look ceases to be viable, when you're 25 +, and clearly NOT an edgy teenager anymore
 

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women that you can easly manipulate?
Call it "manipulation" if you want, J. This conversation has been had prior https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/the-shape-of-the-container.282297/#post-3120302

Bringing this back around to the subject at hand... The Woke-genuflecting MSM and large segments of The Manosphere actually oppose so-called Looksmaxxing (Even the most untheatrical of activities, such as daily physical exercise, keeping one's hair well-coiffed, avoiding obesity, etc etc)from the same brain-dead reason: "We should be able to be real, and people should love and be nice to us, no matter how we look, smell, and speak"

I(And I'm sure everyone else who possesses even middling intelligence)wish these proponents of "keeping it real" well, if they really believe such a strategy to be viable
 
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Call it "manipulation" if you want, J. This conversation has been had prior https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threads/the-shape-of-the-container.282297/#post-3120302
Well it's right as you say.
But I can understand the first part where you do it to gain social value, your job position, etc, but, when you are alone, talking with your wife, or alone talking with your friends, that mask goes off. I am more interested in the swap, in this change, and when it occurs, how do you manage, etc.

And after someone, like your wife knows who you are without that mask, she also know when you put that back.
If you wear the mask in your face forever, this mean you're informal when you have deep convestation or you do sex with your wife?
A man acting with a mask, will lose it's identiy, because He will be in mask mode, and so habit become routine.

My grandfather didn't had a mask.
My uncle does but it's just for the superficial level, then He gradually lose it.
My brother in law, doesn't have a mask.
Someone I know, have a mask, good manipulator, and I don't know about if He removes it in intimacy.

Please let us understand.
It will be good if you have sources or real life examples
 
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Well it's right as you say.
But I can understand the first part where you do it to gain social value, your job position, etc, but, when you are alone, talking with your wife, or alone talking with your friends, that mask goes off. I am more interested in the swap, in this change, and when it occurs, how do you manage, etc.

And after someone, like your wife knows who you are without that mask, she also know when you put that back.
If you wear the mask in your face forever, this mean you're informal when you have deep convestation or you do sex with your wife?
A man acting with a mask, will lose it's identiy, because He will be in mask mode, and so habit become routine.

My grandfather didn't had a mask.
My uncle does but it's just for the superficial level, then He gradually lose it.
My brother in law, doesn't have a mask.
Someone I know, have a mask, good manipulator, and I don't know about if He removes it in intimacy.

Please let us understand.
It will be good if you have sources or real life examples
I again encourage you to seek psychotherapy for this fixation you have with "masks"
 

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I again encourage you to seek psychotherapy for this fixation you have with "masks"
Is not fixation but more understanding what a mask is, when to wear, when to remove.


 
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Is not fixation but more understanding what a mask is, when to wear, when to remove.


Ask that marketing manager you admire for his thoughts on "masks". Fair inference: He behaves very differently, depending on where he's at, and who is around
 

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Even generically Red Pill guys are recognizing
4:49-6:33 that there's nothing sexist/misandrist/Gynocentric about a man looking after his appearance. The typical defenses we hear for NOT doing so out of The Manosphere ("Our feminist school system robbed us of role models, so young guys can't help not having role models", "MeToo made young men give up on life")don't hold up, when one considers

-Guidance on this subject has been around for a long f-cking time https://www.amazon.com/Stiff-Drink-Close-Shave-Manliness/dp/0811807576 https://www.amazon.com/AskMen-com-Presents-Bar-Bedroom-Pleasuring/dp/0061208523 https://www.sosuave.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000265.html Note the dates of publication on all those links


-This same phenomena(Men closing not to put effort into themselves)was noted long before MeToo/Wokeness becoming a fad occurred https://slate.com/human-interest/20...pping-up-in-tv-and-movies-like-greenberg.html
 

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"Looksmaxxing is a practice in which people perform several body care routines in an effort to improve ones physical appearance. Some of these practices are fairly common and standard, such as clearing up facial acne, going to the gym, getting a new haircut, or moisturizing..."

All counsel we regularly received in the pages of Maxim and FHM, back in The 90s-early '10s, and from pre-Woke Askmen during The 2000s-15. Tough to not mourn the days when we simply refereed to such things as "embracing adulthood"*, instead of lapsing into Manosphere gibberish. It's a relief to read that many young men seem to be rediscovering what was once self-evident though



*This isn't even especially modern
I agree with the idea of looksmaxxing.

Even though (as I've said on this forum before) I looked better in my younger days (per an AI looks rater), that's somewhat misleading.

The AI looks rater only rates you on facial features.

I spent too much of my younger days rocking haircuts that didn't work for me.

With age, I eventually found hairstyles that work on me. I find that something as simple as the right haircut does wonders when it comes to looksmaxxing.

As a result, even though I rank lower on the AI looks scale now than I did in my younger days, I'd say my overall package (no pun intended) is better.
 

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I agree with the idea of looksmaxxing.

Even though (as I've said on this forum before) I looked better in my younger days (per an AI looks rater), that's somewhat misleading.

The AI looks rater only rates you on facial features.

I spent too much of my younger days rocking haircuts that didn't work for me.

With age, I eventually found hairstyles that work on me. I find that something as simple as the right haircut does wonders when it comes to looksmaxxing.

As a result, even though I rank lower on the AI looks scale now than I did in my younger days, I'd say my overall package (no pun intended) is better.
Hairstyle is critical. For a guy with full hair, not optimizing your hairstyle is just leaving looks points on the table. It’s way more important than clothes or even body.
 

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Hairstyle is critical. For a guy with full hair, not optimizing your hairstyle is just leaving looks points on the table. It’s way more important than clothes or even body.
Yeah, especially for a guy like me who only has a few different hairstyles that can work for my hair texture.

The fact I was higher-ranked on facial attractiveness alone in my younger days doesn't change the fact my hairstyle left much to be desired.
 
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