Looks vs personality

[530dj]

if you look like brad pitt you prob won't struggle for dates, if you hae a 7 figure bank account then neither really matters

 

[KoalaKing]

Totally wrong because in order to even get a **** buddy you have to game her and your game basically consist of your personality, bodylanguage, voice, and style (The way you dress) yes looks matter to a certain extent but you got guys in wheel chairs and severe burns on there face still pulling girls. Like that other guy had said look at some of the guys who get girls who are ugly. Have you ever seen how steve P looks...

Girls aren't much a of a looks person as you would think its all about social conditioning as to why they logically try to say they base who they go out with on looks.

I am a 38 year old guy who has a HB8 young 21 year old Wife, I didn't have to game her at all, she was the one who gamed me.

I pretty much ignored her when we first met, yet every other younger guy who was there at the time were doing their utmost to attract her attention.

All I did was talk to her with no real intentions of my trying to allure her, she began to say things like "I am much more mature than most of the girls who are my age" and other things like that which made me realize very quickly that she was interested in me.

Before she started saying these things I didn't even think of her as a dating prospect as she is 17 years younger than me and also very attractive.

I have still got her now as my Wife many months later so if a pretty girl is attracted to a guy she can game him as well which is what happened with me.

 

[Shiftkey]

Ah huh. So does that mean you're excessively wealthy and famous too?

 

[KoalaKing]

Neither is as important as value. Women are more attracted to value than anything. This is why famous people get laid, and this is why you can get any woman in a bar if you walk in with 5 hot women hanging on your arms.

This is so true, I used to hire the services of gorgeous call girls from an elite escort agency take them into a flash trendy upmarket bar with me, then fu-ck them in the motel room that I paid to spend the night in, when I went back to the same bar at a later date, it was so much easier for me to pick up a gorgeous girl who was drinking there. :yes:

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

Neither is as important as value. Women are more attracted to value than anything. This is why famous people get laid, and this is why you can get any woman in a bar if you walk in with 5 hot women hanging on your arms.

are you sh!tting me? do you really beleive that if you walk into a bar with 5 hot women, you can get any woman you want? lol, OMG:crackup:

1. no, walking into a bar with 5 hot women doesnt mean youll get any one. social proof theory is another stupid idea dreamed up by mASF. its bullshyte.
2. not all famous people get laid. your paying too much attention to the ones who got recognition for dating alot of beautiful women(gene simons, fred durst, etc.) , but these are not representative of the entire famous people population

 

[DJ4Life]

all chicks say that the prefer personality more over looks when you ask them which one do they like better

but is it that true?

when a chick walks into a club she automatically scans for the hottest guy as potential game, not the one with the most confidence, humor

the personality part only kicks in when she actually has the chance to get to be with you

and of course you can create that chance by going up to her, and unless you are ******* ugly with burnt face and mutated features she is not gonna scream and flee away

but if you have the looks, gaming is that much easier, i know

but average looking guys you can do it too

 

[Shiftkey]

are you sh!tting me? do you really beleive that if you walk into a bar with 5 hot women, you can get any woman you want? lol, OMG:crackup:

1. no, walking into a bar with 5 hot women doesnt mean youll get any one. social proof theory is another stupid idea dreamed up by mASF. its bullshyte.
2. not all famous people get laid. your paying too much attention to the ones who got recognition for dating alot of beautiful women(gene simons, fred durst, etc.) , but these are not representative of the entire famous people population

1. Well it's a bit of an exaggeration. Your game would still have to be ok, but if you walk into a bar with 5 hot women on your arms it probably is. And you'll have to excuse me if I don't take the word of some anonimous poster over myown and thousands of other's field experience that the concept of preselection can be VERY powerful.

2. Famous men do get laid. Some more than others, obviously, but being famous can definately make the game a lot easier.

 

[everywomanshero]

Personality is very important, have one. The thing is some guys initially get snubbed over looks, in say 3rd grade, and then become reclusive.

Talking and Touching builds comfort, the guy who sits hunkered down in the corner is just weird and no one is really comfortable being near him.

Looks. People make all kinds of personality decisions about you based on your looks. Sure, these can be overcame, but one aspect (looks) does tend to affect the perceived personality unless proven otherwise. If you are dressed like a Rapper, people would have a different perception of you than if you had dressed like Mr. Rogers.

One of the big problems a man can have is trying to be super generic or afraid to stand out a little. It's also good to remember that being too quiet creeps people out, it's better to spout something out. Looks shouldn't be a big concern other than the basics: Microdermal if you need it, pluck eye brow "weeds", trim nose hair, get hair cut every 3 weeks, Mystic tan once or twice a week if you're not naturally dark, put on sunscreen, brush teeth 3x a day, take acne meds/topicals if needed, have someone with fasion sense regularly critique your closet, etc.

 

[God_of_getting_layed]

Looks are incredibly important. But so is personality. I hate it when people say looks dont matter. THey do matter. But youll need a personality too. IF your ugly, no matter your personality, youll lose.

even if you see an ugly guy with a hot chick, trust me, she thinks hes hot; shes one of those weirdos. women are not all the same. my point is looks matter, SHE HAS TO FIND YOU PHYSICALLY ATTRACTIVE (this applies to 95% of women Id say, with the exception of the 5% freaks of nature). otherwise, nothing will work.

 

[MightyMate]

Yup. Women are *****es.

 

[lurker]

are you sh!tting me? do you really beleive that if you walk into a bar with 5 hot women, you can get any woman you want? lol, OMG:crackup:

1. no, walking into a bar with 5 hot women doesnt mean youll get any one. social proof theory is another stupid idea dreamed up by mASF. its bullshyte.
2. not all famous people get laid. your paying too much attention to the ones who got recognition for dating alot of beautiful women(gene simons, fred durst, etc.) , but these are not representative of the entire famous people population

right on point. iv known a nerd at university with 5 girls on his arms at a school party. but did that get him laid? no all he got were kissess on his cheek. he begged those girls anyway they were his cousins and cousins friends. he was my friend i donnu why he did that.

 

[Shiftkey]

Women aren't as attracted to looks as men are. Obviously better physical appearance will give you a leg up, and basic things like dressing well and having good hygene are required, but even the best looking guys don't always get laid.

I still maintain that any guy with a clean appearance (well groomed, nice clothes) and good game can get any woman.

 

[Schmuck]

"The inside doesn't get to play until the outside passes the test."

 

[afc_2_dj]

looks without a doubt.

IMHO, both are important [in fact all 3 elements: looks,personality,money]

Catch is, you can't wear your personality on your face, so the only thing a girl can use to judge you initially for attraction is looks. So without looks you don't get the "audition" so to speak [no looks == no attraction == no IOI/EC], hence, if you have a s**t personality, she'll drop you, but looks is what got you there, making looks the most important.

You always get people saying "ja,ja looks aren't important", but i'd wager those guys are all good-looing, like rich people telling you money isn't important in life, try live as a below-average looking guy for a while and you'll quickly discover that without looks you ain't got a start.

 

[wayword]

I am a 38 year old guy who has a HB8 young 21 year old Wife, I didn't have to game her at all, she was the one who gamed me.

"I am much more mature than most of the girls who are my age" and other things like that which made me realize very quickly that she was interested in me.

Just curious...did she have an absentee daddy (and looking for a father figure)? Or is she poor (and looking for a sugar-daddy)?

 

[comote]

Quantity vs Quality

It depends on what you are looking for. As far as mass, quantity I'ld say looks are more important, basically a really good looking guy with no personality can on average have more sexual partners than an ok or ugly guy with a great personality.

However . . . If you have the great personality then you will be better prepared to get the girls you really want. Yeah the good looking guy will get alot more attention, but everything else equal, if a girl is spending equal amounts of time with a great looking guy with no game and an ugly dude with game, the ugly dude with game will get her 999 times out of 1000.

 

[Skydiver43127]

If it ever gets to this question, the girl's either a vegetable or a dog. Next in both cases. In the first case most people would bang her. I wouldn't.

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Oh, you're talking about guys... Same rule applies - if you count on only one, you're screwed (NOT literally )

 

[SonOfTheMostHigh]

Ok look this:

All women are different, lets repeat this, ALL WOMEN ARE DIFFERENT.

Every person has has a type of person the are PHYSICALLY compatible with (i.e. what you find attractive) and a type they are not, and this is GENETICALLY BASED. There are some people you will NEVER be attracted to.

The same goes for personality, some personalities will never get along with others of different personalities, there will be some personalities that will just never mix, period.

Next personality CAN overcome looks, it doesn't mean it can in all situations. It's called BONDING with a woman, any woman you can bond with and make a real connection with where she feels she loves you she will f-ck ur brains out. If you can make that bond with a woman you can **** her brains out no matter how you look, but not all women are the same, so sometimes you can get a woman that is picky.

My sister for instance thinks Osama bin laden is hot, and brad pitt doesn't do anything for her. Next she prefers guys who aren't muscular but reasonably fit to a little around the waist, just "normal" there.

Every girl has preferences, screen for them, its that simple.

 

[Shiftkey]

IMHO, both are important [in fact all 3 elements: looks,personality,money]

Catch is, you can't wear your personality on your face, so the only thing a girl can use to judge you initially for attraction is looks. So without looks you don't get the "audition" so to speak [no looks == no attraction == no IOI/EC], hence, if you have a s**t personality, she'll drop you, but looks is what got you there, making looks the most important.

You always get people saying "ja,ja looks aren't important", but i'd wager those guys are all good-looing, like rich people telling you money isn't important in life, try live as a below-average looking guy for a while and you'll quickly discover that without looks you ain't got a start.

If you did any research on Mystery Method, you'd know it was designed for average guys to get the hottest women. There are indirect methods of creating attraction (such as social proof, ****y/funny, negs, etc). Below average guys will have a tougher time, but the vast majority of below average guys only need to do a few simple things to dramatically improve their looks.

Here's a pic of Style. Not bad looking, but he's no model. Unfortunately Mystery's picture is harder to come by.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neil_Strauss

 

[Cod3r]

Neither is as important as value. Women are more attracted to value than anything. This is why famous people get laid, and this is why you can get any woman in a bar if you walk in with 5 hot women hanging on your arms.

I'd say you walk in with 5 hot women and you're deemed gay... BUT 2, one on each arm, and I'd buy this story right now. I've learned in my experience that looks and personality matter for guys that have no social value (however u want to context that) Meaning if ur in highschool social value is being the start football captain, if ur at work social value means being a manager or an executive, if ur in hollywood social value means having slept with Paris Hilton and so on....

If you have or can create social value, you can f*ck any girl within that value system.... It's alll so clear to me, hope it is to you guys too...

IE.

If you're in highschool and f*ck the hottest girl somehow, you automatically get a card to f*ck any girl in the highschool... 1, 2, 3 or 4 at a time hands down. It's because you're deemeed socially valuable now... dosen't matter if you're ugly or are a damn mute, or just plain suck at life... Once you get value all else falls into place... girls will GIVE you good looks, aka they'll look at you and see brad pitt... they will GIVE you personality... when ur quiet and wierd at a party... its not quiet and wierd... it's mysterious and interesting !

Come on fellas, I know you guys have experienced this... highschool lead point-guard would cause the whole team to run suicides because he'd NEVER touch the lines, everyone would laugh and say... "haha larry is such a rebel" but ANYONE ELSE and you'd get beat the hell down after practice. It's life mannn, establish value and you will rule YOUR WORLD...

Meaning, having value in highschool isn't going to get you the older girl at the club... having club value isn't going to lay Paris Hilton, ect...

Wherever you go you have to sense the social atmosphere and instantly attain value for that enviroment and once you have it, u can do whatever the hell you want...

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As a quick aside, if it was looks or personality for me and I had a choice I'd take looks hands down. Even before I had game I got laid, so just from experience I know looks are very important....


-Cod3r