This will be some good reading material but I think people should read it, you don't have to agree with me:
When I was 160-165 lbs, I was very fit, very trimmed face, had the jawline, had muscular tones, etc...then over time i got to 240 lbs. WHen i was 165, girls were going up to me saying hi blah blah, to the point where I didn't have to touch them or initiate some kind of physical contact, i would just keep my hands to myself and they would initiate it. But back then, I would have been unstoppable if a thread like this existed but no, i had no confidence, i had low self esteem, i was scared to make moves, etc.... BUT they still talked to me. I would say or talk about the dumbest sh*T or show I had low self esteem, mumbling voice (because i was nervous), and they still continued to talk to me...
And now I am at 180 lbs as a result of the p90x program. When i was at 240, no girls gave me love but the ratio of attention from girls and the amount of weight I lost went up each pound i dropped. Now I have to work extra harder on my game (personality wise) since my looks werent as good as 165 lbs. My face now has a bit more baggage but not as much when I was at 240 lbs.
So i believe that girls look for looks. I am not gonna say what race I am, but I am neither white, hispanic, or black... So this puts me in a bind, i believe because of TV and hollywood, they glamourize white, black and hispanic ppl..so someone like me, I have to LOOK SUPER GOOD (i mean physically) to be an exception.
So this is my theory. If you are white, black, or hispanic, you don't have to be super fit to be liked because you are glamourized on TV, but a minority like me, which my peoples hardly get airtime on TV..I have to work extra harder and be an exception...that means I have to drop back down to 160-165 lbs and rely on my looks instead of my game.
damn, i even remember in junior high-high school, i was like 155 lbs, and i had white girls, black girls, mexican girls, asian girls liking me and I didnt' even talk to them..ppl would just tell me "oh so and so thinks you are hot, thinks you are cute, etc.." And during college too, my weight was within the pimpin range..I would just make small talk, dumb AFC comments, reaking insecurity type conversation, thinking of things to say (which I know was VERY obvious to the girl) and at the end I would ask for her number and she still gave it. I got so much numbers when I was at this weight but I was that dude that had no self esteem and was scared to take it to the next level...i was basically scared of rejection.. when I took them out or had a date with them.
so now I have all this knowledge of the game..if i drop down to 160 to 165 lbs, it should be on.
But I do remember back then that if you show you are desperate, it will turn them off. I did this to some girl, and after a few months she still called me back checking up on me...so obviously she was just into my looks and when I was 160-165 lbs, i was a BIG TIME AFC..no doubt about that...
Now when I reack insecurity, AFC on any girl, THEY WILL NEVER CALL ME BACK, because at 180 i dont look as good as in 160. This is what I am learning and observing.
Keep in mind that if you are NOT white, black, or hispanic (and these guys dont have to look super good) you will not have as much problems getting girls as someone who is not one of those 3. But also, you can't be SUPER FAT either. No girls want fat guys no matter what race you are, unless they have something that they need but in general, girls are into looks. Alot of my girl friends tell me about guys all the time. .they would make comments like "i think he's cute, i think he looks good, he looks fine, blah blah" i never hear a girl saying the first word that comes out of her mouth "oh my gosh, i like his personality..or I like the way he plays the game"....women go for looks first then they do the filtering next, that is not related to your looks.
The guys that follow the rules of this thread and have success with women either have something women want if they don't look good, look good already but they don't know it or think otherwise, look good already but they don't think so and they think its their game that's doing it for them, and/or are most likely white, black, or hispanic. But also you can't be extreme either and be a jerk...or go AFC psycho status.... I believe with the combination of the different scenarios, there's also something in the middle that makes it work for them.
Who agrees with me on this?
When I was 160-165 lbs, I was very fit, very trimmed face, had the jawline, had muscular tones, etc...then over time i got to 240 lbs. WHen i was 165, girls were going up to me saying hi blah blah, to the point where I didn't have to touch them or initiate some kind of physical contact, i would just keep my hands to myself and they would initiate it. But back then, I would have been unstoppable if a thread like this existed but no, i had no confidence, i had low self esteem, i was scared to make moves, etc.... BUT they still talked to me. I would say or talk about the dumbest sh*T or show I had low self esteem, mumbling voice (because i was nervous), and they still continued to talk to me...
And now I am at 180 lbs as a result of the p90x program. When i was at 240, no girls gave me love but the ratio of attention from girls and the amount of weight I lost went up each pound i dropped. Now I have to work extra harder on my game (personality wise) since my looks werent as good as 165 lbs. My face now has a bit more baggage but not as much when I was at 240 lbs.
So i believe that girls look for looks. I am not gonna say what race I am, but I am neither white, hispanic, or black... So this puts me in a bind, i believe because of TV and hollywood, they glamourize white, black and hispanic ppl..so someone like me, I have to LOOK SUPER GOOD (i mean physically) to be an exception.
So this is my theory. If you are white, black, or hispanic, you don't have to be super fit to be liked because you are glamourized on TV, but a minority like me, which my peoples hardly get airtime on TV..I have to work extra harder and be an exception...that means I have to drop back down to 160-165 lbs and rely on my looks instead of my game.
damn, i even remember in junior high-high school, i was like 155 lbs, and i had white girls, black girls, mexican girls, asian girls liking me and I didnt' even talk to them..ppl would just tell me "oh so and so thinks you are hot, thinks you are cute, etc.." And during college too, my weight was within the pimpin range..I would just make small talk, dumb AFC comments, reaking insecurity type conversation, thinking of things to say (which I know was VERY obvious to the girl) and at the end I would ask for her number and she still gave it. I got so much numbers when I was at this weight but I was that dude that had no self esteem and was scared to take it to the next level...i was basically scared of rejection.. when I took them out or had a date with them.
so now I have all this knowledge of the game..if i drop down to 160 to 165 lbs, it should be on.
But I do remember back then that if you show you are desperate, it will turn them off. I did this to some girl, and after a few months she still called me back checking up on me...so obviously she was just into my looks and when I was 160-165 lbs, i was a BIG TIME AFC..no doubt about that...
Now when I reack insecurity, AFC on any girl, THEY WILL NEVER CALL ME BACK, because at 180 i dont look as good as in 160. This is what I am learning and observing.
Keep in mind that if you are NOT white, black, or hispanic (and these guys dont have to look super good) you will not have as much problems getting girls as someone who is not one of those 3. But also, you can't be SUPER FAT either. No girls want fat guys no matter what race you are, unless they have something that they need but in general, girls are into looks. Alot of my girl friends tell me about guys all the time. .they would make comments like "i think he's cute, i think he looks good, he looks fine, blah blah" i never hear a girl saying the first word that comes out of her mouth "oh my gosh, i like his personality..or I like the way he plays the game"....women go for looks first then they do the filtering next, that is not related to your looks.
The guys that follow the rules of this thread and have success with women either have something women want if they don't look good, look good already but they don't know it or think otherwise, look good already but they don't think so and they think its their game that's doing it for them, and/or are most likely white, black, or hispanic. But also you can't be extreme either and be a jerk...or go AFC psycho status.... I believe with the combination of the different scenarios, there's also something in the middle that makes it work for them.
Who agrees with me on this?