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Looks mini rant

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I think that DJ Fear has made a point that really can’t be refuted. I know some of you are all caught up in trying to be better, hoping, wishing that everything will work for the better for yourself. But the fact of the matter is; most guys really have no chance of dating supermodels. There just aren’t enough supermodels to go around.

Take a look at the whole game/PUA/DJ business and apply a little logic and one will see why DJ Fear is correct. The underlying idea is that attraction is a learned skill. Now say if you teach a man the “learned” skill of attraction then he should be able to go out into the world and attract any woman, even a supermodel. Now say you take 100 men and teach them the “learned” skill of attraction then all of them should be able to go out into the world and attract any woman, even a supermodel. Now the problem arises; what if all 100 men desire the same woman, the same supermodel.

More than likely the woman will only want one man at a time in her life. But if 100 men are applying the same skills, shouldn’t she then be attracted to all 100 men? Do you see how absurd it is?

How do I know? Throughout the years I have dated some pretty hot women. In every case our relationship began by looking at each other, in some cases from across the room. I’ve witnesses many guys come onto these women, guys that had no chance with the woman but tried nonetheless. Not once has an average guy ever come along and with his superior game stolen a woman away from me. Quite the opposite, there have been times where several guys were coming on to the same woman and she came over to me when all I did was look at her.
 

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Your negativity is overwhelming, sounds like you may have depression. Not masturbating does have a profound effect, it is not bullsh1t like you think.

http://yourbrainonporn.com/

You need to hit the gym, that's why you aren't attracting good looking girls. Send me a PM and I will lay out a training and nutrition plan for you.

Even if you were to land a supermodel, do you think that you would be able to keep her with your pessimistic attitude? I think you want to land one for your ego, and external validation from others.
 

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why does everyone take it as a given that you can't improve your physical attractiveness?

if you're not over 20 you can still grow taller naturally (apparently there's surgery that can make you taller than involves breaking and mending your legs or something though, for those who are over 20ish)

it's never too late to stop being fat or become muscular or get into shape if you so desire

if your hair is grey, dye it.
if your hairstyle sucks, style it.
if your wardrobe is garbage, get a new one.
if you smell bad, cologne and deodorant.
if you've got ugly facial hair, change it/shave it/grow it into something good.
if you've got bad skin, there's a billion dollar industry full of products for that.
 

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backbreaker said:
…We turn to Masterbation becuase we aren't getting laid in real life. The more frustrated we become the more we fap.
This isn't always true. There was a time in my life when perhaps I was addicted to sex. I would have two to three girlfriends and still masturbate. Some girls would even get off on it – you know; watching, and/or mutual masturbation.

Still, I've read that chronic masturbation causes a man to lose sensitivity in his penis which makes it more difficult to get off inside a vagina.
 
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I stopped reading after the 3rd post.
It has nothing to do with looks. Looks are just a "garnish" it makes it easier to sell the dish. But the quality of the dish may vary. Have you ever had cheese fries and gravy? It sounds like a heart attack in a bowl and looks bad, but the taste is loved by many.
I'm saying if you don't have looks use charm be highlarious. Something man!
There was this guy that lived on my grandparents street who had to be the uglies mo*o ever. Bald scars everywhere on his head, 382lbs , had one eye that was partially open. Granted he had a hard time growing up but that's another story. But he married a HB10 with the personality to match. The guy had charm he figured out the don Juan ways ON HIS OWN through trial and error.
Another example. Historical American figure Ben franklin. Seriously, just watch the documentary if you have time.

Don't limit yourself. If these guys can do it so can you.
 

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This thread reminded me of this video about Looks. Maybe some of you have seen it already but obviously we are attracted to looks, does that mean you cant snag HB8+?.... Not really but when doing approaches being a good looking guy opens the door easier to get a convo going. I think Backbreaker had a post about a woman he knew wanting a confident guy but what they dont say is "I want a confident (hot) guy" lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V7TcSr9GiM&list=UU41VQF08gjJGz5tYyp5ezfw&feature=c4-overview
 

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In2theGame said:
This thread reminded me of this video about Looks. Maybe some of you have seen it already but obviously we are attracted to looks, does that mean you cant snag HB8+?.... Not really but when doing approaches being a good looking guy opens the door easier to get a convo going. I think Backbreaker had a post about a woman he knew wanting a confident guy but what they dont say is "I want a confident (hot) guy" lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V7TcSr9GiM&list=UU41VQF08gjJGz5tYyp5ezfw&feature=c4-overview
Lol at that clip of Tyler from RSD saying looks are not even a bonus and that they don't do anything!
 
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Looks are only important in highschool. For "social status" honestly.
But saying they don't do anything is wrong in my opinion. Its a easy conversation starter for women. And KT makes you more approachable! But you can look like brad pit and not have any women. Why? Because wardrobe men wardrobe! If you look like a hick from the hills only hicks from the hills will date you. Im constantly told I have a movie star pretty face, I don't claim to but its what women tell me. I don't dress like a redneck even though I am a straight up country boy. I have always had a little urban twist to my getup. I always get compliments on my unique style.

My point is look your best and unlike the rest. I'm dirt poor using a smart phone with no number and my neighbors WiFi and I still look damn good! LOL it doesn't matter what your budget is get some presentable clothes. Get a hair cut shave your beard grow a beard whatever just find what your flaws are and work on it!
 

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I know dudes ugly as sh1t who get hot chicks because they have money. If they didn't have the bucks they wouldn't get the fvcks. As soon a these chicks know they have it they don't hold back.
 

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In2theGame said:
This thread reminded me of this video about Looks. Maybe some of you have seen it already but obviously we are attracted to looks, does that mean you cant snag HB8+?.... Not really but when doing approaches being a good looking guy opens the door easier to get a convo going. I think Backbreaker had a post about a woman he knew wanting a confident guy but what they dont say is "I want a confident (hot) guy" lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2V7TcSr9GiM&list=UU41VQF08gjJGz5tYyp5ezfw&feature=c4-overview
What women say in groups like that like on that anonymous dating show in the video is reflective of much of pop culture, and with the 'TV is god' mentality it permeates real life. A woman who feels unattractive can get empathy and HELP. A man in that position, can't, because at least metaphorically speaking, no-one cares.

I only had psychiatric help to turn to to deal with my inner aggressiveness/self-harm.

This behaviour is accepted, meanwhile its demanded of men to be courteous, responsible et al. And we still force kids to attend school, bludgeoning them with the same structural pack of lies about succeeding in life that we were.

With this behaviour, I get suspicious when women are especially nice to me, up til that point I was giving them power going on their behaviour.

It's like some sort of sick joke. I've never been able to make most of what I have got, because they don't care unless they are family, and people don't like ridiculously happy people, and ridding yourself of this need of others' approval is a hard feat. Do we have to lose our minds to enjoy life?

These so-called 'hotties' my god. I laugh inside when the 'plain janes' they look down their noses at end up getting more dates than they do.
 
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insanity is humanity said:
Looks are only important in highschool. For "social status" honestly.
Elder folks running these schools complain about teens focussing on pecs/abs/breasts and not their studies- what an out-of-touch commentary that is.

Either they don't remember anything about being young, or their day was different and not morally decadent like it is today and they are still in a bubble. Looks are a big deal, for both attraction later on and also for social status. 'Unattractive' guys are now being reminded more and more that they are close to becoming the next disadvantaged minority.

They don't teach kids how to save up for plastic surgery when they hit the real world at 18/19 and realize how short-changed they've been.
 

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Goddamnit this crap again. Why are you worried about something you can do nothing about?

About me. I may be ugly. I have been called ugly to my face. My first GF was a 8 and the hottest GF in my social circle. I have been banging some of the hottest women in the world in South America. Using game only. Not using money. One I can't rate because too many beautiful women in Colombia fvcked up my rating system but she was 23 and absolutely gorgeous.

I refuse to believe that looks matter if you have the right attitude.

P.S. I have not been called ugly since I fixed up my attitude. You can take that as you will.
 
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Examples Please

Can somebody please post an example of an "ugly guy" that doesn't have a a physical deformity so that we have a point of reference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlY0vMQGaG4

How to Express a Sexual Vibe

Those are some of the Real Social Dynamics coaches. With the exception of Todd, (second from the left,) Jeffy (in the middle,)
Julien, (who's in this video, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjmr-e3Yi9U, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rjmr-e3Yi9U. I wouldn't consider any of these dudes remotely handsome, by women's standards, hell just based off their looks, I can understand why they weren't knowing women carnally.

With Jeff and Todd, (though not classically handsome, (e.g. Rossling, Tatum, Bale, etc.) It seems that they should have been able to pull chicks just off of looks alone. Julien, on the other hand seems to have that look that women go for and according to some of y'all, Julien should have been pulling chicks simply because of his looks, but he wasn't and he felt the need to take the program. I need somebody to explain this to me, how is that these dudes, (with mediocre looks at best,) are at the top of the pick up game, are able to meet women, then (if they choose,) are able to have sex with the women in thirty minutes time?
 

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Maximus Rex said:
I need somebody to explain this to me, how is that these dudes, (with mediocre looks at best,) are at the top of the pick up game, are able to meet women, then (if they choose,) are able to have sex with the women in thirty minutes time?[/B]
Looks help you to the door. The door being an analogy for the entryway into a woman's life. Having good looks doesn't necessarily mean you have the ability to open and walk through the door, however. The good looking guy you're talking about doesn't know how to open a f**king door, and the mediocre guys are smart enough to approach and find the door on their own and then open that ***** up.
 

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This thread still lives? Jeez.

Looks matter to men and women. And good looks make women make things a lot easier for a guy usually. Seeing as most people are at least average in the face, Id say most men and women can look hot by going to the gym, dressing well, and grooming properly.

Id know Ebony God, but my hair, style, and fitness help me a good bit. They make up for my average face.
 
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