"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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NotoriousGRK

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I arranged to meet with the girl I met during my errands over the phone. She appeared very keen and she was participating in the conversation. She was very good with responding to messages and calling me back. There was an issue since she said she is waiting on her manager to inform her about her roster. I told her I would ring her today.

I just rang before she didnt pick up. She sends me this message: "Sorry
Notorious, I'm in a loud environment and wouldnt be able to hear you! How are
you? Unfortunately I have to work tomorrow :("

I replied "Someone is having a blast :p I have been good I enjoyed Christmas and
went to see my friend today. Aw.. its too bad you cant make it"

She has not replied and has not rescheduled, so next? what's going on?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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i am not an exoert by any means but il give u my 2 cents and im sure better people will give you teh right advice. I think you should give it one more shot and ask again. If she ddeclines or flakes etc tehn NEXT her
 

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Don't write this off yet.

She apologised and also asked how you were (an opening to continue the conversation), so she is thinking about you.
Not all women are going to immediately counteroffer, so don't be put off by that from the start.

She knows her roster now, so give her a call when you've got something in mind. If she doesn't accept or counteroffer at that point, next.
 

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Hey guys I did not get to see your responses until the morning. What happened was she replied later on and we were texting back and forth a couple more times. I felt encouraged about the situation and I also included in my latest message before going to bed (probably to the dismay of DJ) "since you are working tomorrow when are you free?" its now 12 hours since I sent that message and not a reply from her.

Perhaps she got caught up, her phone ran out of battery or something else. Otherwise it appears that its over. Maybe she is playing the game of chase or maybe she took my, what I thought to be, innocent message as something "bad". Like I "want something" maybe. No problem of mine I meant well and if the interaction depended on some wonder-text I do not see the point.

Maybe I'll call next week and at the same time I'm thinking whats the point if she can go a week or two with out calling me, a person who she enjoyed the interaction with.

Anyway its better for me to go out and meet better girls who are more organised, communicate better and are less paranoid. As for the games, thanks but no thanks. There are certain games and sports I play instead of others due to my tastes. Thats my opinion.

Anyway despite appearing like I made up my mind, I would still like to see your genuine thoughts, opinions or your 2 cents as some like to say :)

Thank you for the responses by the way guys!
 

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So just a few minutes ago I was searching for answers and in a moment of inspiration I texted this (36 hours later):

"Take your sweet time why dont you.."

Her, in a rapid reply of texts one after the other:
"Wow crap, I'm so sorry"
"Crap!"
"I read this and I forgot to reply"

Then my response after all that: "Thats more like it.. good.. I'll get in touch with you about it later in the day.. atm I'm doing something else and I dont feel its fair to not be attentive enough or completely attentive.. Talk to you later K"

She texted me back to back:"I have to admit, I'm abit scared. I dont know what your intentions are and I only just met you."

"Sure thing, talk soon"

Now I would advise you that if you want to advise me then kindly do so as soon as you read this, because I'm going to arrange much later in the day and talk with her.

Thank you
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I would have left out:

"atm I'm doing something else and I dont feel its fair to not be attentive enough or completely attentive.. Talk to you later K"

no need to explain yourself. You're letting her know you are adding distance for the moment.
not a good idea.
 

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SoSuave666 said:
If it looks like a next, walks like a next, and talks like a next...
but she's so special and i luuuurve her!!!:crackup:
 

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Hey guys,

When I called her later in the day it was going fine and we arranged to meet on Sunday (we have different timezones). Then before hanging up, she said that her bf wont be too happy and that they had a big fight about this.

I asked her what it is that she really wants. She said she does not know.............. Anyway I pretty much told her that if she wants to be around me, that she is to be the one to get in touch with me and get get a hold of me and I just hung up.
 

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NotoriousGRK said:
When I called her later in the day it was going fine and we arranged to meet on Sunday (we have different timezones). Then before hanging up, she said that her bf wont be too happy and that they had a big fight about this.
Ok, you WILL be getting laid on Sunday as long as you don't entirely fyck it up.

Here's the math:
She wants to meet NGRK + Her bf hates this + She doesn't care about bf's opinion and is meeting NGRK anyway = NGRK is in like Flynn

Don't get all heavy on her, i.e. asking her what she 'really' wants.
Have a great time with her. Let her know that going against her bf's wishes is a good idea, and that she might have the chance to upgrade to you.
 

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I do not think what I posted was clear guys :( maybe if I included this

She said "I dont think I can make it", that was just after we arranged (while we were still on the phone) because they had a big fight and he is not too happy about that. So then I asked her what does she want. She said that she does not know, she wants to respect everyone but needs to time to think. I pretty much said would it not be good for us to have fun and enjoy our company? Then she went on to tell me how they both invested so much and that its hard. So I laid it on the line (to be clear, I had enough of her blabbing) that if she wants to be around me the she ought to be the one to get in touch with me.

Btw I deleted her messages and number from my phone last night
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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