"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Look matters. End of the debate

Shivastorm_88

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In two sentences, I will explain why looks matters. This is about a man on Tinder.

This man has, quite literally, a greek God's body (he's a fitness model). It happens somewhat frequently that women will send him pictures of their vagina before even saying hi.

Kind of like men sending **** pics, really. How do I know this? He showed them to me.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Blistex

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I never used Tinder but I assume it is mainly looks that gets you anywhere on it. I think you select who you are interested in based off their pictures, thus looks play a significant role.
 

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The argument isn't, that looks don't matter. They obviously do. No dude with down syndrome is gonna be pulling dimes.

The arguement is whether looks "are everything" or play a "big" role.

Which they're not cause' its all about the package.
 

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Looks do matter. Ugly people say otherwise.

But, game is more important than looks IMO
 

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No sh!t dude.

No amount of game will help you be successful with women if you are ugly. Charisma will definitely help you, but that's not what SoSuave and the RedPill teaches anymore. Good luck and have fun!
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Of course looks matter, it's hard to believe now that the community ever taught otherwise, but they did.

Even RSD now says that looks don't matter, but only if you are on the highest elite levels of game. If you're not, maximize your looks to help you. That's amazing relly, because RSD was one of the most hardcore advocates of the "looks don't matter" philosophy, and they're probably the last to abandon it.
 

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zekko said:
Of course looks matter, it's hard to believe now that the community ever taught otherwise, but they did.

Even RSD now says that looks don't matter, but only if you are on the highest elite levels of game. If you're not, maximize your looks to help you. That's amazing relly, because RSD was one of the most hardcore advocates of the "looks don't matter" philosophy, and they're probably the last to abandon it.
I still can not believe how RSD and PUA brainwashed people on the unimportance of aesthetics and appearance. It kind of makes you wonder about the gurus on SoSuave that sit back on their keyboards right now with Dorito crumbs in their beards....
 

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DemFeeelz said:
Looks don't "matter" to chicks who like your look. /thread.
Fvck you man, I'm dating a chick that's in my league, but the manosphere tells me I can do better....

I'm 5'4" and about a 4/10. She's 5'6" and a 6/10. Should I dump her to pursue a 6' height and 9/10?

pls respond...
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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The411 said:
Fvck you man, I'm dating a chick that's in my league, but the manosphere tells me I can do better....

I'm 5'4" and about a 4/10. She's 5'6" and a 6/10. Should I dump her to pursue a 6' height and 9/10?

pls respond...
You could get an hb11+ if you weren't such a gameless beta blue pill fagg0t.

Read more manosphincter mental masturbation, and recite the entire dj bible word for word ten times on the forums for your penance.
 

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Looks do matter on Tinder more so than most everything else, so much so that for Tinder looks are close to 100% of it. So put a picture of your chest or something and it may work if you want some quick hookup on there. You can get decent hookups on it but the flakiness on it is sky high since it has virtually no investment for women (no fee, no profile even to write). Once you get her into the interaction then game plays a big role though.

One girl on OKCupid sent me videos of her masturbating after I sexualised the conversation completely. Suffice to say I took her out in the car, played it that we went to some crappy bar which was so bad so left straight away. Got back into the car, started kissing her, then fvcked her, including in the ass, and came in her mouth. All within 30 minutes of meeting her for the first time. She loved the mysteriousness of it all, she even suggested I was married after we had sex.
 

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My uglier friends get more girls then me on Tinder and I get more better looking women in person when we hit the bar or club scene with no game. So now what?
 

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PeasantPlayer said:
My uglier friends get more girls then me on Tinder
You're probably doing something wrong then lol.
 

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I'm doing nothing wrong, all I do is put my pictures up. I'm not photogenic, have old pictures up, not smiling in them. Met a chick off POF she didn't recognize me, said I was fine and looked way better in person. Ending up smashing her that night.....so......
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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It's not that black and white. The only time looks really benefit you is if your in the male model status as in a 9/10 or better, which is truly rare. you don't need any game with women whatsoever.

For most guys, if your a 6, 7 or 8 you will generally all be on the same playing field.
 

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Im ripped. (not a brag just a fact pertaining to the convo) Yet, most profiles I see everywhere say they dont want to see guys with shirts off. So I dont put up those photos. Thoughts? Should we put those kinda of photos up anyway?
 

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Your appearance matters its just that some women will place more importance on them than others.
 

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salinechow said:
Im ripped. (not a brag just a fact pertaining to the convo) Yet, most profiles I see everywhere say they dont want to see guys with shirts off. So I dont put up those photos. Thoughts? Should we put those kinda of photos up anyway?
I wouldn't,

Instead, put up a picture that is 'suggestive' of your great physic.
 

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salinechow said:
Im ripped. (not a brag just a fact pertaining to the convo) Yet, most profiles I see everywhere say they dont want to see guys with shirts off. So I dont put up those photos. Thoughts? Should we put those kinda of photos up anyway?
I wouldn't normally comment , but I stumbled on an OKcupid study that talks about this. The short answer is yes. The long answer is , it depends on age. So for a male in their early 20s, they have a higher chance of getting a meeting with a picture w/ no shirt. The ratio of initiations/ success decreases to the point at age 30 where there is no statistical difference between having a shirt on and off.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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