"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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What's the longest you went in your life without a woman?

For me it was 3 and a half years.. 18 in a half to a week after I was 21.
 

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Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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How far are you counting back or what's the start point? If it's 13 then then about 6 years. So many opportunitities squandered that were thrown in my lap :cuss: .
 

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What do you consider to be "without a woman"?

Since I broke up with my last LTR three years ago I have only had one situation that even resembled a relationship, and that only lasted a few months. Aside from that it's been a series of one or two date things and random hookups.

As far as I'm concerned I have been "without" for 3 years, due to the unfulfilling nature of my relationships with women in the recent past.
 

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backbreaker said:
What's the longest you went in your life without a woman?

For me it was 3 and a half years.. 18 in a half to a week after I was 21.
Do you mean without a regular sexual partner who was fullfilling and good for you OR do you mean without the faked up dramatics, the inconsistent behavior, the lying and the childish mindgames, the attention wh0ring from other men, the telling you what you want to hear, being deliberately difficult in times of conflict, the strutting of her bloated ego, the annoying beliefs in their pvssy power, the nerve janging "feminist" jargon ...and so on...?

Yeah, I really miss all that,,
 

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I meant wtihout a woman period. I didn't go on a date, no sex, no nothing for 3 years.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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backbreaker said:
I meant wtihout a woman period. I didn't go on a date, no sex, no nothing for 3 years.
NOt even bowling with a fattie ?
 

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backbreaker-

I'm curious, and I think you might have mentioned something about this before, but during those three years did you have opportunities? Did you simply put the blinders on and ignore women completely?

I am really curious about this because as I said in my last post, I have been through a series of unfulfilling encounters with women over the past few years.

I know part of it has to do with the fact that I went through a really, REALLY rough time in my life during about 50% of that time, but now that I have pulled myself back up and have my sanity back, things don't seem to be getting a whole lot better. Now I am back in the swing of things as far as interacting with women, but it still seems like it's all but impossible to find a woman who I want to share intimacy with, or vice-versa.

It's almost at a point where I think I need to be taking a break from women to be able to step back and get some perspective, but I don't really know how to go about doing it.

Sounds ridiculous, but it's not really, when you consider the fact that I know a lot of women, and I don't want to A) Burn bridges, B) Come off as a bitter woman hater, C) Stir up any sh!t.

If I were to "take a break from women" I would have to give up my entire social life, and I don't want to to become a hermit or anything.
 

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STR8UP said:
backbreaker-

I'm curious, and I think you might have mentioned something about this before, but during those three years did you have opportunities? Did you simply put the blinders on and ignore women completely?

I am really curious about this because as I said in my last post, I have been through a series of unfulfilling encounters with women over the past few years.

I know part of it has to do with the fact that I went through a really, REALLY rough time in my life during about 50% of that time, but now that I have pulled myself back up and have my sanity back, things don't seem to be getting a whole lot better. Now I am back in the swing of things as far as interacting with women, but it still seems like it's all but impossible to find a woman who I want to share intimacy with, or vice-versa.

It's almost at a point where I think I need to be taking a break from women to be able to step back and get some perspective, but I don't really know how to go about doing it.

Sounds ridiculous, but it's not really, when you consider the fact that I know a lot of women, and I don't want to A) Burn bridges, B) Come off as a bitter woman hater, C) Stir up any sh!t.

If I were to "take a break from women" I would have to give up my entire social life, and I don't want to to become a hermit or anything.
Hey man I have struck out 17 times in a row in the past year! One of them was with my ex of 7 years...if you need a break you need a break. Just tell them that you just want to be friends for the time being. Women do that shyte to us all the time, might as well do it back for a change!
 

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it was a bunch of things coming together at once. most importantly that's when I was working on my business. Not far be hind is i had blinders for my old oneitis.

Yes I had opprotunities, espically before i put on weight. as a matter of fact i had a lot of opprotunities. Closer towards the end i had none. But by then i really didn't care.

most beneficial thing i have ever done and it's not even close. it really helps you put things in perspective with life.

I think that's why my GF and I after a year and a half now we still have alot of sizzle to our relationship, she knows I have no qualms about being alone. And I don't say that for face value.. I really have no problem being alone.

i recommend it for every guy
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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If we're talking about "sex", last time I had it(the natural way without the use of an escort) was April 2007 with a hot 19 yr old.

If we're talking about a "relationship", then it's been exactly 2 1/2 half yrs.

If we're talking "seeing"(non-serious) a chick, then it's been exactly 1 year and 10 months.

Now let's see how many others here will admit something like that. I admit these things and don't put on a facade, because:

1. I'm all about honesty

and

2. Because I'm not ashamed of it either. I know my situation as bad as it is, is not my doing. My game is there, although I may f*ck up sometimes(I'm only human, who doesn't? Nobody's game is ever going to be 100% on) and my looks are there. I've been coming to this site ever since I found it 5 yrs ago, I think I've learned a thing or two and can say my game is up there as a result...so there should be no reason why I shouldn't be able to reel in hot women...but it just so happens I only reel 'em in and get to f*ck 'em, every once in a blue moon, which I can only attribute it to just not being in my cards. So, during that in between time, to spare me the suffering, that's why there's escorts, right?
 

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edger said:
I know my situation as bad as it is, is not my doing. My game is there, although I may f*ck up sometimes(I'm only human, who doesn't?
It IS your doing.

I'm not exactly satisfied with my current situation, but I have noone to blame but myself.

You will never progress until you own up to the fact that you make your own destiny.
 

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STR8UP said:
It IS your doing.

I'm not exactly satisfied with my current situation, but I have noone to blame but myself.

You will never progress until you own up to the fact that you make your own destiny.
Ok, whatever, I'm not going to debate this again. You know myself better than me, gotcha! I know myself pretty darn well. I know what I know and see what I see. And that's all I have to say.
 

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Well let's see here! 13-17 not a damn thing! 17-20 best years of my life! Moved to Chicago and went to a rich high school...so that meant hot rich women out the A$$!! Then went to college had all kinds of hot women taking classes because of me...but because I am a royal dumba$$ and I was in a serious 7 year relationship (which I now regret to no end, but am still happy that it happened). Then broke up with my ex...lost my game have forgotten what I once was great at and have struck out 17 times in a row. Some fat some psycho and one really really really really fuking hot one! God I miss college!!!
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I guess it depends on the definition of "with a woman". Using the slightest of definitions, a date or hookup or pickup, I've gone as long as 2 years - although I've certainly had my chances with women below my standards, either due to unattractiveness or family situation or age, during that time. I've been more cautious lately and don't pursue 1 night stands with women I know I would not be interested in dating.

I have a friend that once went 13 years without a date (and if the set of dates on the young side would not be counted since they were high school dance setup dates), then he could have been considered dateless until he was 31.
 

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probably about 5 years, grim really. Seems like mission impossible at times.
 

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I went from 28 - 31 only making friends with girls. Got laid twice in that time period. Twice. In 3 years. I sunk into depression. I started reading. Realized why I was in depression, altered my life in certain ways, and then I beat the lonesome blues by "faking it til I was making it". Then I came to this site and learned even more about things like "being an alpha male", "peacocking" etc..

Looking back, I am surprised I had hot girls hanging out with me even as friends, I was pretty hurtin. And the whole time the only thing stopping me from getting laid was myself. I still haven't had a girlfriend since I was 27, but I don't need or want one, I have so much more fun being single!!!
 

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CFERD said:
Pretty much the same thing Str8 has said. Also thinking of taking a break from women for a month. think it was some of Anti dump's advice from way back. I have to strongly agree with Johil's perspective in regards to women and alot of their crap behavior. Times are changing.

Oh and in between I unfortunately did go bowling with a fatty. but that is when I had been drinking frequently.
can you point me to this post about women's crap behavior?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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