"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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STR8UP

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MikeYikes122 said:
It's like my Grandpa once told me. Treat em mean and you'll keep em keen. Treat em nice and you'll pay the price.
I wish my grandpa had given me that advice.

I bet I just earned myself a place on Iqqi's sh!t list. :crackup:
That would be quite a tragedy.....
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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MikeYikes122 said:
It's like my Grandpa once told me. Treat em mean and you'll keep em keen. Treat em nice and you'll pay the price.

I bet I just earned myself a place on Iqqi's sh!t list. :crackup:
Well women who only seem to respond to being treated like sh!t, are the same as men who only respond to being treated like sh!t.

And that is why it is so obvious to me why men on this board are crying about being treated like sh!t! You are all more like the women you whine about than you would ever imagine! You are the easiest kind of men to game.

It is almost funny. But it is more sad.

Mikey, I don't have a sh!t list. But if you want to be on it, I can get rough with you... if that's how you like it. You may be one of the men I just described. :whistle:
 

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Thanks for all the great feedback guys. You pretty much reinforced what I already felt, but I guess I just needed to hear it one more time.

Thanks!
 

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JeeperCane said:
i really don't have anything to hide, maybe others can learn from my mistakes.

elaborate on what you mean by cluster b type? is that slang for just "stupid b1tch?" or is that really a DJ term?

Cluster B --- a subset of the personalty disorders in the DSM - a catalog of psychiatric diagnoses. Cluster B includes BPD, HPD, ASPD, and some others. Look up "Borderline Personality Disorder." There are even some threads here about it.
 
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