"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Lol thanks a lot fatties......

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I was at the track today putting in my cardio. There were tons of folks there. Roughly 50% of the males had beer guts & were overweight & over 80% of the women were whales regardless of age. Every moderately attractive chick present was either with a dude or shielded by female whale armour(their friends).

There was this one chick though, she looked to be in her late 20s/early 30s, in good shape, flat stomach, big muscular thighs, nice ass, nice boobs, decent face & man could she run. I planned to approach her when she finished & I was, before I could say a word, a queue formed of dudes approaching this chick. I lol'd because this little situation basically spells out the current NYC dating/mating game in a nut shell. This athletic chick was a high 7/low 8. Good but nothing to dance about.

However she had a group of dudes approach one after the other. Well as my bro says, "time to up my fvcking level".
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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i just spent 2 weeks over seas in the caribbean( dominican republic) and man what 2 weeks those were.

im trying to quit the night life here in NYC and instead save my money and travel abroad 2 times a year.

getting laid every night while abroad by cute chicks in shape is something i could never make happen in NYC.

you should do the same. FVCK AMERICAN WOMEN.
 

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America= mainly out of shape people who are in denial

example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IoyAP8LcqA

unless their athletes:cool:


honestly i dont get how girls can fvck guys with beer belly's to me thats so gross


EDIT: actually i take it back i dont mean to hurt anyones feelings, now that i think about it the way this country works is most of us eat of of boxes(frozen foods) and cans, its just the way it is here
 

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@Tiguere - Awesome name by the way, what's the story behind it? I'm actually from the Caribbean(Barbados), we used to be a very fit country, when I was growing up fat people weren't too common though any decent chick still had that b!tchy, self entitled attitude. I hear we're getting horrible though(thanks America). Its maddening, cows & land whales everywhere you turn here in NYC. Get on the A train I see so many chicks who would go up a point if they just picked up a carrot & put down the muthafvckin' twinkies.

@irocknike - Dude, I can afford to buy my own food & supplements even while working a crap job. If I were still in Barbados that would be nigh impossible. I would understand if all the good stuff wasn't sold or hard to find but its right there in the supermarket & there's TONS of information on what to eat. People are just f'ing lazy.

Chicks can fvck dudes with beer guts if the dudes are providing funds & resources. Also I imagine all kinds of chicks were banging ugly, out of shape, bald dudes since the beginning of time so it doesn't really bother me. What bothers me is decent looking guys fvcking girls with beer guts......that is gross.
 

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Kirro said:
What bothers me is decent looking guys fvcking girls with beer guts......that is gross.
yes thats actually pretty disgusting
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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vatoloco said:
I see that roissy concluded there were an average of 6 men pursuing each 1 non fat female (this doesn't take into account that one guy can pursue many women at the same time). And I just saw on the news the labor dept said there were 5 people for each job opening. The 80/20 rule seems to apply to a lot of things in America now.
 

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Kirro said:
I planned to approach her when she finished & I was, before I could say a word, a queue formed of dudes approaching this chick. I lol'd because this little situation basically spells out the current NYC dating/mating game in a nut shell. This athletic chick was a high 7/low 8. Good but nothing to dance about.

However she had a group of dudes approach one after the other. Well as my bro says, "time to up my fvcking level".
^^exactly.. i keep telling people there is a male over population issue so women who are 4s 5s and 6s are treated like 9s.. and they now have attitudes like 9s too...lol
 

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Stagger Lee said:
I see that roissy concluded there were an average of 6 men pursuing each 1 non fat female (this doesn't take into account that one guy can pursue many women at the same time). And I just saw on the news the labor dept said there were 5 people for each job opening. The 80/20 rule seems to apply to a lot of things in America now.
and fat women have many men chasing the also but you just dont see it but check her cell phone and you will see many calls and messages and texts..lol men chase the cute girls but usually end up chasing the fatties also..
 

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article sums it up perfectly but i could have told you about the same thing with out a bunch of bmi statistics. Super sad thing is that i know a lot of skinny girls who aren't cute at all. On the bright side like the article said guys don't need to rely on looks as much as girls, which is why developing good game and a large social circle are just as if not more important than eating well and going to the gym a lot.

Fat people suck and deserve to be mocked and looked down upon even more so in our society. I know first hand that it can be tough to lose weight and get in shape but most people aren't even trying. I work out 3 times a week, play a sport or run 2 times a week, eat the 3 servings of fruits and vegetables a day, and barely eat any carbs from starch or wheat (except when drunk or high ;) ). And guess what. I have a good body. Shocking I know. I've only had this lifestyle for a year or so and already had amazing results.

Then I get these chubby little hooes who think they're better than me hahaha. Is Wayne Brady gonna have to choke a biitch? Ugh at least i'll live to be 80 and can laugh when they die of heart attacks at 50 while i'm still lookin sexy. Guess my parents were right. Life isn't always fair.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Kirro said:
This athletic chick was a high 7/low 8. Good but nothing to dance about.
Haha your scale must be way off bonk, 8 is nearing supermodel standard so no doubt guys approached her :p
 

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Well for what is was worth I was going to approach her too, but fat bicycle riding latino dude beat me to the punch. It was such a funny moment, I almost burst out laughing at how quickly he swerved in there.

Oh wellz, I still got more to work on before I'm ready to seriously outperform these guys. Still working on dat life & these looks.:p
 

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DonGorgon said:
^^exactly.. i keep telling people there is a male over population issue so women who are 4s 5s and 6s are treated like 9s.. and they now have attitudes like 9s too...lol
actually....the world guy to girl ratio is 49% to 51%

BUT.........

there is technically more women on this planet than men however theres more men born. the thing is men die faster and younger than women thats how we get that ratio...its like Natures way of balance.

for example:
the population was 37,253,956 for Cali
Males:18,517,830
Females:18,736,126
http://factfinder2.census.gov/faces...view.xhtml?pid=DEC_10_SF1_QTP1&prodType=table

but if you look at age groups it doesnt balance out till the 30's

Then you got your Homosexual crowd(there's more homo's among men than women) so that kind of evens it out too
 

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Dongorgon is sort of right, but no about sex ratio. There are many countries, specially in europe, where females outnumber males.

He is correct though there is an overpopulation of handsome dudes regarding to female beauties.
 

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@ Tiguere
I am not attacking your DJ skills and I know the girls down in DOmincan Republic (DR) are hot..but didnt you have to pay? Isn't that what its all about down there? I am not attacking the women or country or anything. But I have a few mates that go down there...and they get laid like rock starts by the hottest women..but have to pay. I have one homeboy that is good looking (no homo) and he has no problem getting women but he goes down there because the women are hot. Then I have a homeboy that isn't quite on the suave side (his looks) if u get me and he has a very hard time getting dates..but he goes down there and beds hot women (because he has to pay).

I mean if u want to pay to hit a hot girl I think that is cool. But if u have to pay is that a test of ur DJ skill?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Tiguere said:
i just spent 2 weeks over seas in the caribbean( dominican republic) and man what 2 weeks those were.

im trying to quit the night life here in NYC and instead save my money and travel abroad 2 times a year.

getting laid every night while abroad by cute chicks in shape is something i could never make happen in NYC.

you should do the same. FVCK AMERICAN WOMEN.
Of course the $30.00 a night one pays for a HOOKER down there doesn't seem like paying for it to an American.

Ibet the local men they pass over for the "gringos" don't think the women there are so great or so easy.

Money is NOT "game."

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I sent the link to my room mate, and discussed this at passing as he was about to head out the door. The general points are discussed in the next paragraph.

The facts are simple. When in the public on weekends, there are more fat women out than fat men. Of the skinny women, most of them have attitudes and severe entitlement. Even the not so good looking ones. One of our mutual acquaintances is a 2 or a 3 with a dastardly personality, but she easily gets more guys than I do girls. She has black hair on her arms and its visible...just sayin'. me on the other hand am constantly attempting ( and succeeding to some degree) to get the portion of women whom are attractive; as you can tell by the other post in the mature section, this effort is wrought with flakes and general disrespect.

I agree with ROISSY, and this thread. Fat women utterly pollute the dating scene. They raise the demand for good looking women which in turn creates strong entitlement amongst most women. Why should a good looking chick waste time and effort with manners? Any guy she meets is effectively replaceable with minimal effort.

I don't see this attitude going away in america any time in our lifetimes. Culture changes, but these changes are slow. unfortunately, our culture is pushing towards higher levels of obesity/ entitlement...not less. Look at our congress' efforts with the national debt - these people can't even work things out amongst themselves and compromise when it matters most. what makes you think that people whom have entitlement engrained into their psyche will do the same?
 

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I have come to realize that the problem isn't women, its just a certain group of women, the women that we all generally agree are fvckable. If most women are unattractive to us, we don't even consider them in our discussions, they don't even cross our thoughts.

The serious issue is, anything remotely bangable these days as previously stated as an abundance of options & thus have b!tchy attitudes & entitlement issues. Even a chick who is nice & friendly may flake or disrespect you via her actions. A 7 can now act like a 9 because she's got a bf with a car who bends to her every whim, she rations out sex as needed, she has a ton of orbiters texting & messaging her on fb & she's probably got some good looking guy on the side to fvck for lulz.

Its an endless battle between men of top that. No matter who loses they win. Speaking from a personal standpoint, what the hell can I do to win & by win I mean get laid consistently for minimal time, effort & money & even thinking that seems absurd at this point.

How many other men have that exact same goal in mind? At this rate, I'll have to be deep in self improvement for the next 10 years to stand a decent chance.

Its not a pretty reality & I hate to say it but I might be fvcked & not in the way I want.
 
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The bigger issue is FREE AGENCY, and "superstar economics" that favor the "best" at the expense of everyone else, the same way CEO pay is rising while everyone else's is falling.

In the past, the "beta" was a good husband and a good provider, and there were plenty of them to go around, so that the reasonably attractive women could find ONE, marry him, and be off the market forever.

Today? The 9-10s stay SINGLE, they have global reach via the internet, and they suck the air out of the dating game for BOTH genders. Men have been doing this for a lot longer, so it's not as noticeable.

Really, what a man needs to do in order to counteract this is "not throw good money after bad." The LJBF is CHERISHED by the hotties, since most men INSIST on trying for more, not understanding that THEY get the power in an LJBF, because the woman DEPENDS on them emotionally, while the man gets little in return, meaning he loses a lot less than she does if he walks.

This is why beginning an LJBF, maintaining it long enough to show her your worth OUTSIDE the bedroom, and then pulling the plug on the friendship without warning is probaby the most powerful "game" technique there is.

With that said, it has NEVER been easy to score with hot chicks.

Oh, and to people who say fat people should be ridiculed, I disagree. I got fat because I was diagnosed with early-stage COPD in 2002, a "fatal" illness, and to try to extend my life, I decided not to agitate my lungs with activity, and adopted a sedentary lifestyle. Using a few "off label" medicines I had read were useful (and which a doctor tried), while practicing very powerful hypnosis daily, I tested in 2009 with a pulse/ox of 94, meaning my lungs had healed, something supposedly medically impossible.

If saving my life meant gaining 100 pounds, I don't really think it was a bad choice. Many people have genuine medical issues which prevent them from losing weight, though I agree among younger, healthy people, being fat equates to being lazy. Perhaps now that I can breathe again, the weight will come back off, but I had to take care of survival business first. My body looks GREAT to me because I'm ALIVE.

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