"The Kiss of Death Mistake"

You replay the conversation at 2 a.m. She texted back fast yesterday. Today, nothing. Was that smile friendly or flirty? What did the shoulder touch mean?

Every hour you spend decoding her signals drains your confidence and hands her the controls. Women can sense that insecurity from across the room — and it repels them.

One of the "22 Rules" kills the obsession on the spot: assume she likes you, and act accordingly. Sounds too simple. Works anyway.

Her interest tends to rise to meet your expectations. Psychologists call it a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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LOL at some of the POF girls.

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i'm been hitting up online game pretty hard and have started to get some numbers.

i had this one girl i was messaging just now. i think she was cute. so i asked for her number. THIS is the reply i got. this is after we sent 10 message back and forth.

"Lol I say no once and you insult me? Hahaha I don't know you enough to give out my number! So I'm sorry I'm not a slut lol cya "

giving out numbers is slutty now? rofl
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Sounds to me like she's just on there for validation, or she just wasn't that into you

don't trip, don't insult them. Just move on. I helps to think of them as just a profile until after you start talking to them in person
 

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Sounds to me like she's just on there for validation, or she just wasn't that into you

don't trip, don't insult them. Just move on. I helps to think of them as just a profile until after you start talking to them in person

Exactly

That type of response is typical and I've got it many times. Chances are she is a slvt and will give it up to someone else, or she's an idiot looking for a penpal and doesn't understand that the whole idea of a dating site is to find a date eventually and exchange numbers. I mean seriously, shes on a dating site and thinks exchanging numbers makes her a slut? Its like walking in mcdonalds and when the person at the counter asks for your order you say "lolz im not here to order food what kinda fatazz do you think i am?" Best thing to do is stay zen like, don't insult her, and move on. No matter how ridiculous some of these chicks can be it is ALWAYS a bad idea to respond negatively
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Packers2010 said:
i'm been hitting up online game pretty hard and have started to get some numbers.

i had this one girl i was messaging just now. i think she was cute. so i asked for her number. THIS is the reply i got. this is after we sent 10 message back and forth.

"Lol I say no once and you insult me? Hahaha I don't know you enough to give out my number! So I'm sorry I'm not a slut lol cya "

giving out numbers is slutty now? rofl

What did you say to her saying no once that she took as an insult?

These chicks online are so full of it it's hilarious. You can only laugh at their nonsense. If she thought you were good looking enough she'd give you her number when you asked once or if you were mind blowingly "hawt" she'd throw her number out without you even asking.

I'm sure she just joined and online dating site to not give her number out. Righto. lol.

I'd be willing to bet if you could see her inbox conversations the "non slvt" has given her number out to a few dudes she found "hawt" enough.

It's like some of these chicks actually expect some dudes to put in "work" for them because they're "not slvts" = dudes not as "hawt" yet the "not a slvt" goes right out the window when the "God" emails them: Hey babe whats up? ;).

As if they forget they are a CHICK who needs to use online dating. Too funny!

You just have to ignore their crap and move on.
 

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I have a question some master POFers might know the answer to. Some things I have read on he site suggest a girl can tag you as a person requesting sex and that other girls not looking for guys like that can filter you out. I don't think the site notifies you of this flagging also. So should one try to avoid pissing off girls on POF to not get tagged like that?
 

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I haven't heard of any kind of filter like that on POF. But, it is a very feminist site (despite it having the highest # of s!uts of any dating site)... I know people can be banned for actively being a "pervert"...

I'd suggest being more subtle with your advances anyway... Or masking them behind humor... I've never requested sex from a girl on there.

I do know that after around 40 emails in a day - POF will stop sending your emails to women and won't notify you (to different girls - 40 to the same girl doesn't count.
 

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I have a question some master POFers might know the answer to. Some things I have read on he site suggest a girl can tag you as a person requesting sex and that other girls not looking for guys like that can filter you out. I don't think the site notifies you of this flagging also. So should one try to avoid pissing off girls on POF to not get tagged like that?
This is true. It takes a couple of flaggings I believe. That's why you make your profile sexual and then direct them to read it and see what they think of it, rather than trolling for p*ssy directly with your emails.
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Pof/OkCupid are now 100% flakes. I've gotten numerous numbers in the last month. They all agree to hang out, then flake. All of them. The girls on these sites aren't trying to date, f*ck or have fun, they only join for attention and validation.
 

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That's not true. You have to give us a lot more details. How many days between initiating contact are you going before getting the number? How many days do u wait to call/text? How many days do u wait to meetup? What do ur pics look like? What are you messaging them?

Pof is loaded with flakes, but there's a lot of variables that can trigger a flake. There's also plenty of easy lays on there
 

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SgtSplacker said:
I have a question some master POFers might know the answer to. Some things I have read on he site suggest a girl can tag you as a person requesting sex and that other girls not looking for guys like that can filter you out. I don't think the site notifies you of this flagging also. So should one try to avoid pissing off girls on POF to not get tagged like that?

If you email 4 or 5 profiles who have the setting searching for intimate encounters and chicks who don't have their email restirctions set to block emails from those who have messaged others seeking intimate encounters you'll be blocked from messaging them.

The system gives you a few chances to "mistakenly" email those searching for intimate encounters till the restrictions on other chicks profiles pick it up like after you've messaged about four to five of those intimate encounters types and it will auto block you from emailing those looking for dating. (who have email restrictions set up for that specific purpose.)

Most all of those chicks regardless are trolling for c0ck. You just have to subtly sprinkle it in your interests section and or profile about me. Same with guaging the conversations.
 

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That's not true. You have to give us a lot more details. How many days between initiating contact are you going before getting the number? How many days do u wait to call/text? How many days do u wait to meetup? What do ur pics look like? What are you messaging them?

Pof is loaded with flakes, but there's a lot of variables that can trigger a flake. There's also plenty of easy lays on there
Okay, okay.. I'll be fair and say 99% flakes. I've gotten a lot of dates/lays in the past but the ratio has only gotten worse. I'd say around 70% flakes in the first couple years I was on the site, but now it's at least 95% flakes.
 

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Naughty Ninja said:
What did you say to her saying no once that she took as an insult?

These chicks online are so full of it it's hilarious. You can only laugh at their nonsense. If she thought you were good looking enough she'd give you her number when you asked once or if you were mind blowingly "hawt" she'd throw her number out without you even asking.

I'm sure she just joined and online dating site to not give her number out. Righto. lol.

I'd be willing to bet if you could see her inbox conversations the "non slvt" has given her number out to a few dudes she found "hawt" enough.

It's like some of these chicks actually expect some dudes to put in "work" for them because they're "not slvts" = dudes not as "hawt" yet the "not a slvt" goes right out the window when the "God" emails them: Hey babe whats up? ;).

As if they forget they are a CHICK who needs to use online dating. Too funny!

You just have to ignore their crap and move on.

so true man.

i said some real stuff. like. " you know gigiving out your number isn't slutty it's when you have lots of sexy blah blah"

she still gave me her number I'm texting her now.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Korrupt said:
Pof/OkCupid are now 100% flakes. I've gotten numerous numbers in the last month. They all agree to hang out, then flake. All of them. The girls on these sites aren't trying to date, f*ck or have fun, they only join for attention and validation.

i had a date of there a few weeks ago. though i was so nervous it went no where.

the girl was so snooty it wasn't funny. pretty hot though.
 

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Okay, okay.. I'll be fair and say 99% flakes. I've gotten a lot of dates/lays in the past but the ratio has only gotten worse. I'd say around 70% flakes in the first couple years I was on the site, but now it's at least 95% flakes.

Wasn't true for me. Your city could factor into it. I've never had a flake. I've had countless girls go from being highly interested to ignoring my text within a week for whqtever reason. Either they found another dong, I waited 3+ days between texting, etc. I've had plenty do that, but not one set a date and then didn't show up. so I don't think you can say pof is 99% flakes and attention wh0res. Plenty of guts here have picked up NN system and posted reports about days/lays. Again could be plenty of variables causing a flake, and possibly even just that you live in a bad area or have just hit a small stretch of bad luck
 

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^^^^ Girls usually telegraph an upcoming flake pretty blatantly, if you know what to look for. The last flake that I can remember came in late 2002. The chick and I had made a date for a week or so later at a certain time and place. It was like an hour's drive from me (and it wasn't even a f*ck, just a date.. live and learn!).

A day before the date was to happen I called her, left a message, and got no response. Stupidly I still drove the hour to meet her and, voila, she wasn't there. I was so pissed that I called her voicemail and left a pissed off message. Of course I never heard back.

Since then I've confirmed every date either via phone, text or whatever. I get some last-minute cancellations which piss me off too, but no actual "flakes" as in the chick just doesn't show.
 
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