"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Lol... A woman reveals how she scored her dream guy by playing hard-to-get

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After reading tons and tons of stories and advice for men from the male perspective (e.g. on SoSuave), I finally decided to search for stories and advice for women from the female perspective.

What I've found made me yell with laughter. Let's be honest, at the end of the day, women give the same advice as men do. They play exactly the same games, except that their game is a bit more passive.

The woman that has written how she "scored her dream guy" says that she has read a few dating and relationship self-help books, a fact which she is a bit ashamed of :crackup: , and she wasn't really happy with them because those books told her to play games, but she was convinced that playing games shouldn't be an option if you meet your "soul mate" :rolleyes: .

Now she's in a happy and healthy relationship and says that she ironically conquered her boyfriend by subconsciously following many of those silly rules.

Now let's look at her advice for women

1. Ignore him

When a guy first contacts you, ignore him. Don’t answer his calls or call him back right away. Wait a few days. He needs to know you’re busy and you have a life. You’re not desperate, and you don’t need a man to be happy.

(Change "guy" with "woman", "him" with "her", etc. and you got SoSuave advice)

2. Reject him

When a man first asks you out, say no. Tell him you’re busy. He should ask you out more than once before you say yes. You always hear the old cliché that men love the chase, and it’s true.

(Uhhhm, so men love the chase? But SoSuave tells me that women love the chase too?! :rolleyes: )

3. Love yourself

You should work harder at improving yourself than you work at your relationship. If you’re struggling with a problem in your personal life, such as a health issue or a work situation, make that your priority.

(Yawwwwwwn, sorry, I'm getting a bit tired right now, maybe because of the newness and the originality of this how-to manual...)

4. Make him work around your schedule

Never put your significant other’s life before your own.

If he asks you to go to an event with him that conflicts with something important in your life, tell him no.

:yawn:

5. Be a woman of your word

No one is perfect. There are certain things with which a woman is and isn’t willing to put up. From the beginning of the relationship, it’s important to vocalize what you want and expect.

("I want and expect a big mansion with a swimming pool and $1k designer shoes! If you can't afford it, I'ma break up!")

6. Maintain your own life, but compromise

In any relationship, it’s healthy to maintain your own life, too. A couple shouldn’t always do everything together.

(Tell me about it!)

7. Praise him

Even if you’re an independent woman who doesn’t need a man to survive, oftentimes, life is better with the help, love and support of a boyfriend.

("Thank you for buying me $1k designer shoes.")



So, let me sum up! Men should let women chase them, while women should let men chase them, men should never make women their highest priority, while women should never make men their highest priority, etc.

Yeah, we all don't need each other, we are all independent! :rolleyes:


Maaaaaan, if you want to have a good laugh, read the whole article! :D

http://elitedaily.com/women/7-ways-subconsciously-scored-dream-guy/870865/
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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This really works. I dated a girl for months and it wasn't until she was too busy that I fell for her. Always remember that they might be playing you. In my case she seemed to be doing it on purpose because the next time I saw her we were closer than ever.
 

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This is how backwards our male to female relations has become. Females are giving advice to other females about males when that advice should actually be given to males in the first place.

Feminine energy is now becoming masculine energy and masculine energy is now becoming feminine.
 

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I don't think these strategies work nearly as well on guys as they do on women. Taylor Swift sings a lyric that says, "Guys only want love if it's torture." That's just female projection. Most guys want love that isn't torture.

If I ask a girl out and she says no, chances are high that I won't try again. She just shot herself in the foot with her stupid games.
 

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You can't have both parties playing the game, it nulls itself and nothing works.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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Most red pill men can recognize game playing from a mike away.
 
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This is game playing. Men do it too, actually many of these are parts that some DJ's would use.

Now what would happen if a disciplined woman did the same thing as a man in these games? I don't think either would be interested and there would be no sexual heat unless they called each other on their games and busted each others chops and it was done in a playful fashion.
 

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The article is forgetting one thing, a man with value that hits you up once and you ignore would not hit you up again.

I do not double text so it's once and done.

I initiate date twice, if she say no the first time she better be saying yes the next or it'd have to be her initiating from that point forward.

The other advise seem on point but how many women follow it?

Men don't want a woman who doesn't have a life away from him neither do women. The more clingy a person is the more you want to push them away.

More heart than game is more attractive on a woman

More game than heart is more attractive on a man
 

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stevo said:
The article is forgetting one thing, a man with value that hits you up once and you ignore would not hit you up again.
I agree. When girls say they are too busy I retract the offer and walk. Then, only if they double-text will I reply.

Example:

You: "I'm going to Chicago this weekend if you want to join me."
Her: "I'll think about it. I'm busy this week because of school and work."
You: "Nevermind then. I wouldn't want to mess up your plans with that guy who lives in his mom's basement. He's got such great abs!"
Her: "What??? I don't have anyone else."
(a week passes)
Her: "Here are some pictures of me naked...".
You: "The girls in Chicago are crazy. Are you available tomorrow?"
Her: "Yes."


Remember: If she is playing you, she will worry that she blew her chances and will indeed double text, but be patient. It can take up to 2 weeks.
 

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Example 2:

You: "Let's go away this weekend."
Her: (no reply for 12 hours)
You: "Nevermind then. We're done."
Her: (6 part message and 2 phone calls).
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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UPDATE - Warning! Never assume she got your messages if she doesn't reply - this is especially true for photo messages. I just had a relationship blow up because I assumed she got my invitation. All she got was the retraction and it took us 30 texts to figure out what went wrong.
 

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I have a woman trying this with me now. Yes... it does work regardless of gender, if you don't realize what's going on. Avoiding me, declining my invitations, but if you know how to read body language you know when this is an act. Woman can not hide their true interest if you know what to look for.

She'll come around and start chasing me... if she doesn't.... well so what? Plenty of women, no need to start acting like a needy b!tch.
 

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If a girl did this to me I'd bin her.

I get making yourself slightly hard to get but this is more mind games than just playing hard to get. It's unhealthy.
 

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That's why games are stupid....if everyone was secure abd pyre **** would be much simpler when dealing with the opposite sex...I find that a lot of them are playing games lately like this once they start to like me...too bad I just move right along abdbit blows up in their face....a vulnerable woman who isnt clingy is the best...
 

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The funny thing about Taylor Swift and that song? She describes a BPD girl so perfectly.
I'm pretty sure that the song is supposed to be about something like that.

"Blank Space"
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Scarcity needs to be real, not manufactured or faked, to interest experienced adults... other than right at the start. Truth outs real fast where "my busy busy life" is concerned. Also, rudeness does not = legitimate scarcity, just plain rudeness. Only a complete sucker of any gender takes rudeness bait.

The time bomb, fatal flaw is already planted in relationships that start with "hard to get." Who in their right mind wants to spend time with someone in the intermediate and long term who is so weak that they respond positively to disrespect?
 

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I think, the fact that women play these kind of games makes it extremely difficult to spot if she's just not that into you or if she has read some advice on the internet that is telling her to act disinterested. Is anyone able to detect the difference between real and fake disinterest? If so, feel free to tell me!
 
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Her friends couldve coached her too. In the worst case they already know you and your weaknesses,
 

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bigneil said:
I agree. When girls say they are too busy I retract the offer and walk. Then, only if they double-text will I reply.

Example:

You: "I'm going to Chicago this weekend if you want to join me."
Her: "I'll think about it. I'm busy this week because of school and work."
You: "Nevermind then. I wouldn't want to mess up your plans with that guy who lives in his mom's basement. He's got such great abs!"
Her: "What??? I don't have anyone else."
(a week passes)
Her: "Here are some pictures of me naked...".

You: "The girls in Chicago are crazy. Are you available tomorrow?"
Her: "Yes."

That was hilarious, her change of tone and attitude.:crackup: :crackup: And that's true, the moment they realize their game does not work on you, they cut the crap immediately.
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
This stuff works on:

1) Beta males
2) Naturals or guys that are used to success from childhood and are basically women when it comes to abundance
Totally agree, Im not a beta male but Im not the guy who always had it easy either.

Personally if I make a move on a girl and she rejects me I accept the fact and move her back in the acquaitance cateegory which means she will still be treated with respect and politeness but no special treatment will be given, even if her bus doesnt come and its raining Im not gonna drive her home.

As a man Im fine taking initiative and the risks coming with it but I have a zero tolerance bullsh1t policy to preserve my dignity and mental health, call it ego I call it self respect.

In case such girls change her mind she has to pass through the fvck buddy level if she wants to achieve higher priority, they test us, we should test them and possibly remind them that they live in our ground and not above.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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