"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Loan/Mortgage Officer/Lender...Experience, tips?

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I'm thinking of getting a loan officer / mortgage lender license. Or a real estate license or broker license. I know there are a few of you guys here with experience, so I was hoping to hear from you. Which one do you recommend, what are your experiences, learning curves, etc? How hard do you work, stress level?

Just wondering before I dive in. I'm willing to give it 100% effort. I'm the kind of person who can focus and achieve if I really set my mind to it. So what I'm really wondering is what are the possibilities with going this route, and how has it helped you to be licensed?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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Can you telemarket and make cold calls? Most people can't, but the ones who can handle the rejection make a lot of money.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
Can you telemarket and make cold calls? Most people can't, but the ones who can handle the rejection make a lot of money.
Yes. I don't have a problem with making cold calls, as I've done it before for another thing. I used to be bad at phone calls but I've improved quite a bit since my current job has required a lot more of it.

I was wondering, is there a difference between the license for being a loan officer for auto loans and a loan officer for mortgage loans, or are they the same license?
 

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I think the licensing is different in every state. I solicited home loans in Florida, and a license was not required.
 

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It's almost impossible to become a mortgage broker in my state. You practically have to be one already, and have an immense amount of assets.

The best ways for a newbie real estate agent or loan officer to get business are either going where leads are provided (like the places that advertise on billboards with a web site or toll-free number) or doing lots of internet pay-per-click advertising. You can also get business by running "I buy houses" ads in the largest newspaper in your area.

If you do telemarketing, be sure you have the "do not call list" web site up, and run every number through before you call it. I don't recommend telemarketing: getting people to call you establishes a much better frame for your interaction.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Bonhomme said:
It's almost impossible to become a mortgage broker in my state. You practically have to be one already, and have an immense amount of assets.

The best ways for a newbie real estate agent or loan officer to get business are either going where leads are provided (like the places that advertise on billboards with a web site or toll-free number) or doing lots of internet pay-per-click advertising. You can also get business by running "I buy houses" ads in the largest newspaper in your area.

If you do telemarketing, be sure you have the "do not call list" web site up, and run every number through before you call it. I don't recommend telemarketing: getting people to call you establishes a much better frame for your interaction.
In my state (California), you need to have $25,000 worth of assets, which I have. The way you describe it though, it seems that you are more talking about the current slow real estate market. I get what you mean.

Overall, I'm looking for jobs that require a certification/license that don't have a glass ceiling on salary or money earned. The idea of becoming a loan officer is interesting because I have to work hard to find leads, sure, but it pays off. I've also thought about becoming a Notary Agent, which will cost roughly $350 for the course/testing, but it's well worth it. I know in my town at least, that notaries are few and far between.

I'm just looking for ways to slowly up my income. I'm still in college, do some online business, but it's not really a business. I want to make some big bucks and get into big financial deals. The only way is to get certified in various things. I will eventually become a CPA after I finish school, so I'm looking for things that will complement that. I think becoming a mortgage/loan officer is certainly helpful and anything else I can think of.

I don't really want to make that much, maybe around $7-$10K per month while I'm still in school. I'm sure there are still people buying and selling houses regardless of the slow market. I just want a piece of that pie, no matter how small it is. Median prices for houses in my town are $650K, so even if I help finance one person a month I think I'll do fine.

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I think the licensing is different in every state. I solicited home loans in Florida, and a license was not required.
So, you were a negotiator? In California, there's two types of licenses. One of them is the CFL and the other is the DRE (I think), and the CFL is more like a negotiator, but you can only deal with banks that have a CFL license, which means only lenders in CA. With a DRE, you can deal with lenders from everywhere, but the license costs twice as much, and requires more courses, tests. By the way, if you didn't have a license, how did you learn about everything and how did you get your contacts, etc?

Also, how much cold calling are you guys talking, and where do you know who to call, etc? Did you guys work for brokers or just independently. I assume working for a broker would give you a lot of resources and lists to work with but then you sacrafice some commissions.
 
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