"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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LJBF'd her -- suddenly, IL rising.

PlentyOfLove

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Hey guys,

Lately I've had a ton of interest from women, as those of you who read my thread from yesterday know. And I like it, so thanks to people who've helped me become a DJ in training, instead of turning into a complete AFC.

Anyway, there's this girl. Originally I got to know her and started hanging with the same group of people because I was extremely into her best friend, so I LJBF'd her through my actions, and through my words as well. But lately, we've been hanging out quite a bit, but I've been keeping it casual and friendly for the most part. She is extremely attractive, but she used to be something of a man-eater, which is a turn-off for me, so I haven't been interested in escalating it further. We're just friends, after all.

But during the last year or so, she's stopped seeing men, stopped having casual sex, and has started to show clear signs of high IL. It's probably helped that I've given her the full DJ treatment, from playful kino to aggressive eye contact to a bit of teasing balanced with compliments, when she's deserved 'em. Today after work, I went to her place for a cup of coffee, and she started playing a wife more than ever. She made me some food, asked about my day and whatnot. Almost felt like we were married (not in the suffocating way, though. It was actually pretty nice).

After a bit I just sort of left since I had some work to do back home, but we made some plans for the evening. Nothing overly romantic on paper, but I think I can turn it into just that.

Here's my question for you experienced DJ's: Is it possible she's become interested because I haven't been actively pursuing her/been her slave like most men? From what I've heard, she's never had a serious relationship, and she's pretty shy about these things (especially around me, it would seem), so I know not going to expect her to make a move, but should I just keep making her confused, or just go for it and make a bold move when the opporturnity arises?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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As long as there is initial interest, one always wants what they cannot have.

And yes, when the opportunity presents itself, take it.
 

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Oh goodness, she sounds like the woman I'm after lately. She's a man-eater for sure. This girl cannot figure out why you aren't falling into her trap like every other guy does. She's confused and not used to not getting attention. She will put on the charm until her position is validated.

DO NOT DEVELOP FEELINGS FOR HER. Have fun, but realize that SHE is the reason why she's never had a serious relationship. I say this because you, my friend, are falling for her game. She is the female DJ. If you hang out around a girl long enough, you start to see her as an option. Once you want her, the chase is over and the fun of your relationship will disappear. You can't let the man-eating-she-beast think that she has won you over.

Continue the flirty, light relationship. Hook up when the time is right, but do not think it is more than just that.
 

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I don't think she's a player, just more the kind who likes to have sex, and gets it easily because of her physical attributes. Maybe I'm wrong, she's harder to read than most women. I would easily think that the reason she's never had a relationship has to do with her being a bit shy and awkward when it comes to those things, but again I could be wrong, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

She's not going to play me, that's for sure. I hold the leash, and will continue to do so. Flirty and light is just fine with me, women give me a lot more meaningful looks when I'm already accompanied by a few attractive females who're having a good time, so it's a win-win for me in any case.
 

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PlentyOfLove said:
I don't think she's a player, just more the kind who likes to have sex, and gets it easily because of her physical attributes. Maybe I'm wrong, she's harder to read than most women. I would easily think that the reason she's never had a relationship has to do with her being a bit shy and awkward when it comes to those things, but again I could be wrong, so I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

She's not going to play me, that's for sure. I hold the leash, and will continue to do so. Flirty and light is just fine with me, women give me a lot more meaningful looks when I'm already accompanied by a few attractive females who're having a good time, so it's a win-win for me in any case.
Even shy girls get into relationships if it's what they want. Investigate why it is that she hasn't had one. Then report back :yes:
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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PlentyOfLove

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Gro0ver said:
Even shy girls get into relationships if it's what they want. Investigate why it is that she hasn't had one. Then report back :yes:
Will do. We spent the evening together and had morning coffee together just now. I just came home hoping for a shower and some clean clothes, but we are meeting again later this evening for a bit of party-party. I'll see if I can bring the conversation to relationships during the evening, once we have some time alone.

Thanks guys, should be interesting to see how this develops. There's only a thin line between spinning plates succesfully and breaking them all, as you know ;)
 

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I recommend against getting into a relationship with such a "reformed" woman, once she has you she'll go right back to her man-eating ways. There's a good reason for the saying "never try to make a wife out of a *****."
 

PlentyOfLove

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Zerro said:
I recommend against getting into a relationship with such a "reformed" woman, once she has you she'll go right back to her man-eating ways. There's a good reason for the saying "never try to make a wife out of a *****."
You're right, and I'm not sure if I even want a relationship with her. It would be.. well, interesting for sure. But I feel as though we're currently in a situation that is in many ways similar to the movie "Pick Me Up". It's a terrible movie, but the premise is clever. She throws a trap, I counter. She backs away, I back away a bit more. Etc. The one who loses has to commit to the other person, and I plan on winning.

And even if I don't get a wife out of her, it's good practice, and I'll hopefully get some physical benefits out of it too. And interest from women is almost inrivaled in getting interest from other women as well I hear, so there's that as well. And I love the chase, more than the catch.

Don't worry, I'm not jumping into her arms head-first. I know better than that, being a former AFC.
 
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