LJBF zone but shes left her BF

[pete101]

I'm stuck over the past month I've been chatting to this HB but she had a bf at the time. Now shes left him but at this moment in time I think i am in the LJBF zone. Is it worth me risking asking her out?
when I'm pretty sure i'm going to get the answer 'i see you as just a friend..' speech

i feel like my moment has arised and if i dont do something it'll be too late.. but right now i know in my heart of hearts it might be too late and im already LJBF.. i can only imagine i'd ask her out then if she says no i play ganji games but i feel i need to do something to turn the tide.. I feel like such an afc around her.. nervous etc.. i just dont' know what to do.

 

[Raikojo17]

only if you want to be the rebound guy

 

[Serialized3]

Being the rebound guy isn't so bad, depends on the girl.

 

[Dongfu]

Advice from the Dong Fu Master

I feel you need an entire system overhaul which i cannot explain to you in full detail now - however, I will give you some advice from my book Dong Fu: The Art of Dating

First you need to Isolate her:

"An isolated person is easier to influence. In the presence of her friends, family and other familiar social settings, your customer may appear to be very strong and resistant to your sales strategy. This is merely a facade. Her sense of control will dissolve once you remove her from the comforts of the familiar."
p. 72

"Adventures are preferred to dates for the reason that a date implies possible sex and other expectations." p. 72

Next you need to get her somewhere where you can initiate the Vagisage:

"The Masters understood that the skin on any part of a woman’s body is connected to the vagina. In fact, the erotic neural pathways that pulsate throughout her body are regulated by the vagina. Think of her ****oris as being like a system mainframe. Information is sent out and received from this point. When you touch her, you are inputting data to the system. This information is collected in the vagina and rerouted to her brain where it is translated, processed and delivered to the appropriate emotional receptors. One type of touch can key in the pass code for instant sexual desire, but another can trigger a full system lockdown." p.79

"The most effective form of massage is a closely guarded Dong Fu secret called “Opening the Two-Petaled Lotus.” As with all martial arts, the wisdom of this technique cannot be transmitted through words. However, the Masters have permitted me to provide a basic description." p.80

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"It is time to initiate one of the most powerful weapons in the Dong Fu arsenal: The Indirect Nudge."


"The primary function of the Indirect Nudge is to bypass her psychological, superstitious, religious reasoning. It’s time to turn the tables on your customer and force her to make the decision." p. 104


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[pete101]

im too nervous around her now cos i feel like i need to snap her up quick before someone beats me to it.

i know that is the wrong kind of mind frame to have but cos shes in a rush to go elsewhere i couldn't get the words out yesterday so i just seemed to be hanging on for dear life rather than letting the convo come to a natural end.

i think the problem is i set myself specific targets to reach yesterday ie getting her to come out with me and tried to prolong the situation.

I messaged her today asking her what she was up to tonight.. bad move?

she hasn't replied yet and its not looking promising. i really should have stated my intent directly rather than asking questions trying to find out when she was free etc.

 

[pete101]

is the honest truth that if you are in the friends zone and shes broken up with her bf and is now available.. it doesn't matter cos you are already in the friends zone and will cease to get out of it?

I hear ganji games might be in order now.. if this HB doesn't reply to me, do I just end all contact with her and avoid seeing her?

 

[Interceptor]

I think you need to find out for sure if you're LJBFed.
You need to start initiating convo and become Love Detective now.
Find out what she wants to do "now that she's free."
"What does she like to do for fun?"
"What excites her?"
"What's he passion?"

Casuall, and nonchalantly throw out thse types of questions and engage her on them.
If the moment feels right, see if you can say something like"Oh, I like to do that too. I'm planning on doing that next Saturday, why don't you come out with me and we'll do it together?" blah blah.
Check her reaction.
Try to see if you can build some chemistry and rapport.
Gauge her IL, and if possible her image of you.

But don't overanalyze, and don't psych yourself out of it.

Please realize something....
If you just want to bang her, understand her IL. And don't think too much about it if it doesn't work out.

If you're thinking about her as a potential GF, you need to plan accordingly and act on it and understand her as a person and her IL. But don't put too much emotional stock in the outcome. Play it smart and take it slow. Try not to rush it, and don't get desperate or needy when you're with her or thinking about her. Stay in control.

 

[pete101]

I think you need to find out for sure if you're LJBFed.
You need to start initiating convo and become Love Detective now.
Find out what she wants to do "now that she's free."
"What does she like to do for fun?"
"What excites her?"
"What's he passion?"

Casuall, and nonchalantly throw out thse types of questions and engage her on them.
If the moment feels right, see if you can say something like"Oh, I like to do that too. I'm planning on doing that next Saturday, why don't you come out with me and we'll do it together?" blah blah.
Check her reaction.
Try to see if you can build some chemistry and rapport.
Gauge her IL, and if possible her image of you.

But don't overanalyze, and don't psych yourself out of it.

Please realize something....
If you just want to bang her, understand her IL. And don't think too much about it if it doesn't work out.

If you're thinking about her as a potential GF, you need to plan accordingly and act on it and understand her as a person and her IL. But don't put too much emotional stock in the outcome. Play it smart and take it slow. Try not to rush it, and don't get desperate or needy when you're with her or thinking about her. Stay in control.

great advice thanks. i already know the things that excite her, her passions etc.

i already asked her what she was up to in a message and she deflected it with being busy at work or something.

i then went on to tell her to meet up with me for a drink. waiting for response now..

i see her as a potential gfm but i dont know how to play it smart like you. explain how?

i already faux pas'd yesterday acting too nervous and anxious around her.. i lost all my game cos i felt i had to clinch it there and then otherwise some other dude will beat me to it..

after that performance i think her IL has plummeted dramatically. now shes just being polite cos we're kinda 'friends'.. i guess its ganji games for me as a last resort if i dont get a response..

 

[Interceptor]

Pete, these are common signs of EXTREMELY HIGH Interest Level on your part.
This is tough, becasue she can sense that you are really into her, or at the very least something's going on between you two.


You need to calm yourself down, take deep breaths, and visualize being cool, clam, relaxed and confident.
Visualization and slow , relaxed breathing. Keep your Inner Smile on at all times.
And try, try to just enjoy being around her, without giving off this "Need you now!" vibe.

You are putting too much emotional stock on the outcome.
Your expectation are way too high for now.
And you are in a mad rush to get this woman NOW, right NOW!
These are NOT traits to have inside yourself to do this, man.

You must slow down.

She is just a woman.

She's not a Goddess sent down from the Heavens above.

She was somebody's GF who wan't goood enough for him.

She has been rejected before.

She probably has bad habits.

She takes a Sh*t and farts and burps just like everyone else.

She is not Perfect.
She more than likely has a B*tchy side.
She is NOT perfect.
Remember these things.

 

[pete101]

thanks that was a good wake up call.

so should i accept a offer of a meet up with her if i know full well its on a friends basis?

it seems like if i don't do what you're suppose to in ganji games and ignore her for a bit and disappear and get it to the stage where she craves my attention its pointless trying to meet up with her to convince her to switch from LJBF to a romantic interest?

 

[Interceptor]

Pete,
You have to make your feelings about her known.
You have to stay positive and in control.
Learn all about her, her dreams, her passions, her desires.
See if you can also get her to see you talking and interacting with other women.
I did this with an LJBF and when she saw me chatting up another HB ,her face and demeanor changed , she was purely jealous. I saw it.
She then later approached me, and we started up convo and she had a new appreciation for me.

Remember, no desperation.
No visible expectations.
Be patient. Don't rush. BUT GET YOUR FOOT INSIDE THE DOOR.
You have to play this cool so that when you're with her, she has a wonderful time.
And when she's not, she misses you.
This is what you have to do.
Rememebr no gifts, no poems, no flowers, no favors. You give this ONLY WHEN SHE QUALIFIES FOR YOU.

Just give yourself.
Ask her questions that interests you.
For example, if you like scuba diving, ask her what she thinks about it.
Tha sort of thing.
Try to qualify her.
IF she does qualify for you, keep at it.
If not, you have to decide to Next her or stick to a woman that doesn't have much in common with you ie. Values, moral, interests, hobbies, etc.
As for "craving your attention", Pete you must be honest with yourself and realize what kind of personality you have.
Are you serious?
Are you funny?
Are you flirtatious?
These kinds of things you must know about yourself and see ifyou really bring this to her table enough for her to be interested in you.
Be honest here.
You need to creat that bond, and improve the communication and chemistry before she will "crave" anything from you.That's a fact.
A lot of chicks do not give a lot of their guys a second though during the day unless the girl is IN LOVE.
That's a reality check,Pete.

Can you help her fall in love with you?




Stay strong.

 

[pete101]

this is good advice. you said i need to make it known that im interested in her.. is my coming on too strong and acting nervous and anxious and clingy around her not already a pretty clear indicator to her that i'm interested or do i explicitly need to ask her out?

which i kinda did but she may see that as being as a friends thing.. but she must know shes not stupid.

if i know what her interests are etc passions i know all of that over the time i known her.. but i've been LJBF.. it seems ignoring her and disappearing from her life is only thing i can do now to escape this LJBF situation.

im more fearful she'll meet someone else now that shes single making me put myself under extra pressure to get her.. i understand what you're saying i do but implementing it is so difficult.

if i've done all the things above i should ignore her now and play these ganji games?

i feel im too far gone for me to increase attraction with her.. thats why im confused whether i should meet up with her if she does contact me to meet up for a drink.

ganji games says i should not reply and ignore her still to the point where she really wants to see me.. if i meet up with her then i've 'caved in'? i guess im still in LJBF zone and shes just meeting up with me as a friend.

i guess i could meet up then play the ganji games..? i really dont know what to do at this point.

 

[Rebound Material]

wow....i smell my profession on this thread...hahahaha. dood, stay away unless you wanna be the REBOUND GUY.

 

[pete101]

to be honest.. i think i do. :-S

 

[Interceptor]

Go meet with her if she contacts you.

If you meet her at a social setting, you must decide if you want to pay attention to other women or just her.
If you pay attention to her you must act in a different way than JBF.
You need to stay in control because if not you'll push her away.
Here's the thing, you need to decide if you can lose her as a friend.
For me, I don't want any woman I'm really attracted to to just be my "friend".
It's not for me. But that's my choice and something I can live with.
I try to never be in a LJBF situation from the earliest possible moment.
Don't be needy or clingy or depserate.
Don't act too cool, or too weird or nervous.
Have fun with her. And try to have the sense to find if you can kino sensually with her. She may resist, but what if she doesn't?
Remember, don't act in either extremes, too cold or too hot.


If no opportunity exists to change the LJBF scenario, you still have hope.
There is something called "Relationship Cycling."
It can and has worked.