"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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LJBF, with a perplexing twist

Doc Freezy

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Gday blokes, First time poster, short time reader.

Tad bit of a conundrum which I could use some advice,

Got a text about 3 hours after i hung out with this girl saying : babe.. Is it ok if we just be mates for now? Im just sorting myself out. But i still want to hang out with you, coz i have fun with you =)

that text for me Came right out of fine leg. (cricket analogy)

So i replied with some sub par bull****, which isn't the key to my question. I'm more interested in her connotations behind the texts, as she's not super bright, average intelligence and so i cant see her being intellectual enough to play with me on anything but a sub conscious level.

Your thoughts PUA's and chumps alike?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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my translation of her sms would be:

"ey, I like hanging out with you, but I don't want to commit because I think I can get better. But no worries, while I keep looking for a better guy, you can be my little puppy and I will have your balls in my purse and ring them when I feel like it."

Take control and don't let her friend zone you.
 

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Aussies... I never understand WTF they're saying. But welcome anyway.
 

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Yeah i perceived it more as she was scared of her feelings for me but i suppose its open to interpretation, however its unlikely she can get better than the Doc.

as a solution i was thinking of ignoring her for like 3 or 4 days and call her on a bullsh*t LJBF
 

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Doc Freezy said:
Yeah i perceived it more as she was scared of her feelings for me but i suppose its open to interpretation, however its unlikely she can get better than the Doc.

as a solution i was thinking of ignoring her for like 3 or 4 days and call her on a bullsh*t LJBF
ignore her for a while, don't contact her, she will contact you. if she asks, tell her you are not interested in being friends.

on the other hand, it could be she is still not sure about it and therefore she wants to keep seeing you. it's indeed open to interpretation.
 

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Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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That's pretty common man.

That's the idea of LBJF, actually. You're a friend, but that's it.

The good thing is she's leaving the door slightly open. Slighty. Just No Contact her and don't show any interest until she contacts you again. Don't compromise and agree to hang out as friends but only friends.

Just act carefully now. If you take the LBJF bait she laid out on the table you will NEVER be able to reverse it.
 

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Doc Freezy said:
Got a text about 3 hours after i hung out with this girl saying : babe.. Is it ok if we just be mates for now? Im just sorting myself out. But i still want to hang out with you, coz i have fun with you =)

Translation: I don't feel that attraction for you to have sex, but I'd still like to hang out with you since you are excellent for my ego.


that text for me Came right out of fine leg. (cricket analogy)

So i replied with some sub par bull****, which isn't the key to my question.
Where did she get the idea you wanted to more than mates?
 

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I forgot to mention also that we have had 2 "dates" of hanging out at my place making out.

What do you think would be a good response to advise her im not into being friends?
 

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You've been LJBFed. No perplexing twist here!

Don't you get it? Don't do that "no contact" type of stuff. She WANTS you to stay away from her for a few days, if not permanently, so doing it to her will not work towards getting her attracted to you. She is not interested in you sexually. You were in her "maybe" category, but now you're in the "hell no!" column. As much as she's just average intelligence, she used those two "dates" with you to figure out she's not into you as you think she should be. No big deal man.

Yes, you might know nobody is better than the Doc, but she doesn't know that. She is not intelligent enough to understand that. You can't communicate that to women by "TELLING", you must do it subtly by "SHOWING".

"Calling her out" on her LJBF bs will offer nothing in return, besides a small stroke to your tender ego. She was interested somewhat, now she is not. There is no "calling her out on her bull $hit" type of scenario there.
 

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Gangster Of Love said:
"Calling her out" on her LJBF bs will offer nothing in return, besides a small stroke to your tender ego. She was interested somewhat, now she is not. There is no "calling her out on her bull $hit" type of scenario there.
Agreed. That's why he goes the No Contact route and spins other plates...
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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egos not too tender, i could rip her to shreds if she upset me but i just didnt see it coming. The only reason i am even considering putting in more ground work is that I feel i need to redeem myself.

Like wtf, first time ive been LJBF since i converted to being a PUA
 

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Staying friends and communicating with this girl will I ly make you suffer if your emotionally attached. If your cool with the bestfriend bs she threw at you and have no hard feelings then by all means remain friends. Otherwise no contact and move on to better chicks.
 

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Doc Freezy said:
egos not too tender, i could rip her to shreds if she upset me but i just didnt see it coming. The only reason i am even considering putting in more ground work is that I feel i need to redeem myself.

Like wtf, first time ive been LJBF since i converted to being a PUA
Well, that's a good thing. If you're not getting any LJBF or rejections, it means you are not out there actively sarging!

I would put 3-4 month distance, if not 3-4 years.
 

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Where's the perplexing twist? This is textbook LJBF.

No contact.
 

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Doc Freezy said:
The only reason i am even considering putting in more ground work is that I feel i need to redeem myself.
Textbook AFC/ LJBF stuff going on here.

If you're such a PUA.... No Contact her, spin another plate, and keep it moving.

That's how you'll leave the friend zone, not by pleading your case to her or "putting in more ground work".
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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tsmith2334 said:
Textbook AFC/ LJBF stuff going on here.

If you're such a PUA.... No Contact her, spin another plate, and keep it moving.

That's how you'll leave the friend zone, not by pleading your case to her or "putting in more ground work".
Agreed. That, and I would add ACT like it's absolutely no big deal at all to you to 'just be friends.' ...But then sleep with her anyways. Walk away, find somebody new, **** this girl when she comes back. Case closed!
 

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firstly the title was to promote intrigue.

Secondly, of course i've got others, its more about getting back at her for being so pretentious that she could ljbf me.
 

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yeah, just no contact her, she's not interested

however i am interested in what your "sub-par bullsh1t" response was...
 

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alright then, sig bets for whoever thinks i cant root this slappa.

I'll show you who's the real Don Juan.

I'll keep you guys updated.
 

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hahahaha u serious man?

out of curiosity... what do you think of the overall quality of girls in Radelaide?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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